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Welcome into another thread covering the whole range of life and death, novelty vegetables, DIY, any other randomness and musings about a certain pandemic.

The forecast in our area is for it to be dry but cold and frosty for quite some time from tomorrow. It seems madness to allow the elderly to freeze outside in queues @countrygirl99. But I suppose it's okay, better to freeze to death than contract covid.

@ISaySteadyOn - somehow you have to find a balance so that everybody's needs (including yours) are met.

I don't know if you / your kids are autistic but there's a Facebook group called Embracing Autism that I've found very interesting. I remember a mum posting there recently about how her need not to have physical contact clashed with her son's need to have lots of physical contact. My eldest DC in particular can want a lot of hugs when he is anxious but I need space and a chance to be on my own regularly.

DS2 is very tactile and lets just say that he leaves me with little tactile energy left to apply to other relationships.
The prolonged time off school was hideous because of the constant noise of the DCs or their you-tube videos, and their need to be around and being in a horrible limbo of constant company, but not having my social needs met.

I think I'm finally emerging from that. I've had a few weeks of finally feeling like myself again and having some mental energy to apply to things like housework.

October half-term with its torrential weather and lickdown looming took me back to the grottier days of April and I had a really low week where I feared for getting through winter without intervention if that mood persisted.

Just been watching an online video of a hospital doctor carrying out a simulation of being admitted with Covid.
He starts with the increased breathing rate and low blood oxygen levels - fair enough but then basically states that if we all don't wear masks everywhere We Will All Die.

I have just grabbed my trusty calculator and based on the 45 per 100000 rate in my area my chances of keeling over and facing Big Doctor on my deathbed are about 0.007%.

Scaremongering at its finest.

@countrygirl99 Thats awful about your dad. At least Oh is only 50 and usually fit and healthy! Feels completely fobbed off. They listened to his lungs and said they are clear, didn't do an xray to check for fractured sternum/ribs but did tell him to go for another Covid test as he has a cough. FFS He had a postive test on 25 Oct, isolated for two weeks then had a hospital admission and negative test two weeks ago. Something tells me they will find him positive just so they can keep the numbers up in our area to justify the Tier 3 restrictions from tomorrow. . In the meantime he was told to take over the counter painkillers (which aren't touching the pain) and go away. Bloody ridiculous and they wonder why people like me prefer using complimentary therapies and don't trust doctors unless it's with a broken bone!

It is, indeed, autism though I prefer the term ASD myself.
Unfortunately, my needs can't be met anymore. Tiers and lockdowns have seen to that.

Really, I am just trying to prevent them all from melting down. We're getting better at finding the triggers and heading them off before they start so that's a good thing. And the ones who are being homeschooled are miles better than before so that is good too.

We're all a pretty tactile family so that's one less thing to worry about.

OK, thank you all. I will just have to balance out all the things. That gives me something to work with which helps. You're all lovely.

@Blobby10 Ouch painful! I cracked a couple of ribs in a car accident and they were far more painful than all the other injuries put together. It was many years ago and at the time it was a case of rest and ibuprofen which was next to useless. Actually passed out due to hyperventilating at one point, it was that painful to breathe. I hope your OH feels better soon.

Hi everyone. Congratulations Piccadilly and hello Piccalilli.

I keep staring at that little yellow box on the NHS vaccine page and mouthing 'WTF?' to myself. I'm no scientist or doctor but I thought the whole point of being vaccinated against something was that you were protected against catching it.

If these vaccines don't do that, what are they for? Am I being thick?

And the coercion through the backdoor (that's not a euphemism for suppositories) chills my blood a bit. On the surface, I've no issue specifically with this particular vaccine assuming it does something, see above or vaccinating against this particular illness. I'm very pro-vaccine, personally.

But the concept of barring folk from everyday activities like restaurants, shops and trains based on a health status seems... a step beyond that which I am comfortable. How would it even work, anyway? Would I have to scan a part of my personage and be cleared as 'virus-free and vaccinated' if I want to pop into Next for some pants?

I have two brothers who are gay. They are both quite anxious about the broader precedent of all of this -- they are used to having their health status assumed and certain aspects of their character judged based on one particular illness and what should be a personal and private health decision to combat/prevent/treat it. (HIV, PrEP and so on.)

Troubling times.

And plenty of people are all for it. Me, I am becoming more and more reclusive. Going anywhere has become an exercise in anxiety for me. So I stay home except to take the children to the playground. I managed a zoo trip once but I don't think I can do it again until masks are no longer required. So that was my last zoo trip in this lifetime I guess.

DH shops because he is very brave. Me, I struggle to go to the corner shop now.

This has hit the media

*@ISaySteadyOn * similarly to you, I just avoid places where i need to wear a muzzle and if I have to, I'm in and out in the shortest time possible. I don't have any reason to have a problem wearing them I just don't like them and the relief that floods through my body when I take it off outside the shop is huge.

I fail to see how a vaccine passport would work. To go abroad, yes, but to nip to the shops or a cafe? No business could afford to vet people at the door. It’s the same as the idea of getting tested 85 times a day and therefore getting some kind of freedom pass which allows you to do something minor .. I honestly can’t see that we’d be placing a bigger burden on businesses and local councils than we already are? But it seems the papers and the dementors are baying for it so who knows.

Besides which, most of us won’t get the vaccine for some time. Once the lowest risk people are vaccinated won’t it be summer or even autumn next year and the death rate from CV will by then be very, very low anyway? I just can’t see the public will to keep going creating more and more roolz by that point..

@Blobby10 me too .. I desperately need a haircut but going to the hairdresser is supposed to be a pleasurable experience. Being muzzled up while trying to make small talk would not be a pleasurable experience - plus my hairdresser, while very good, takes aaages to cut my hair - so while the requirement to wear a mask is in place, I just won’t go. I have to go shopping occasionally so will reluctantly wear a mask then but shopping for pleasure is out - I go in and out as quick as possible and like you, the relief I feel when I tear it off is tangible. I’m partially deaf so having everyone else in masks makes it really hard to hear and adds to my heightened anxiety...

I remember a few threads back we spoke about how much this virus is being spread in hospitals. I saw a friend today, she knew an elderly gentleman who broke a hip, caught Covid in hospital and then died of a heart attack at home (cause of death Covid as within 28 days)

Worse still a friend of hers who has been working for Test and Trace told her they had to trace contacts for a doctor who ‘thought’ he had flu, he had run a diabetic clinic, visited a ward for elderly at a local community hospital and been in contact with all the staff at the practice with no mask. I was speechless, surely if you felt unwell, you would either get a test or stay at home.

@Pleasedontdothat I felt the same about the hairdresser so found a mobile one. It’s much quicker as just me and she’s flexible on the mask thing

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I remember a few threads back we spoke about how much this virus is being spread in hospitals. I saw a friend today, she knew an elderly gentleman who broke a hip, caught Covid in hospital and then died of a heart attack at home (cause of death Covid as within 28 days)

Worse still a friend of hers who has been working for Test and Trace told her they had to trace contacts for a doctor who ‘thought’ he had flu, he had run a diabetic clinic, visited a ward for elderly at a local community hospital and been in contact with all the staff at the practice with no mask. I was speechless, surely if you felt unwell, you would either get a test or stay at home.

This is crazy! Most of those groups would be just as vulnerable to flu as covid anyway. Why would you work, particularly with the elderly, with flu even if that's all you thought it was!

www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mark-drakeford-barred-100-north-19377496

@justasking111 I hope more pubs, cafes, hairdressers, barbers, beauticians, theatres, concert venues and restaurants follow suit and ban all MPs and SAGE members from the premised.

I think flu is actually more dangerous as it kills across all age groups. Those who wear masks to keep others safe should wear them at all times from now on for ever because they could be passing on flu to people they are near.

@ISaySteadyOn There will be an increase in agoraphobia as a result of all this.

@Worldgonecrazy

I think flu is actually more dangerous as it kills across all age groups. Those who wear masks to keep others safe should wear them at all times from now on for ever because they could be passing on flu to people they are near.

Don't say that, they're already threatening to!

I've suddenly found some mojo to deal with housework in the last week or two. I'm trying to pick up The Organised Mum Method, and am making some effort after a week which is good for me It's a bit simpler than Fly Lady. Am now sitting in a relatively tidy lounge

@Worldgonecrazy

I think flu is actually more dangerous as it kills across all age groups. Those who wear masks to keep others safe should wear them at all times from now on for ever because they could be passing on flu to people they are near.

Don't tell them that. Then we'll all be in hazmat suits and if you only wear a mask, you'll be terribly selfish and if you don't or can't wear a mask, you'll probably be shot as a warning to others.

So true