ADs trying to stay upright in a muddy park

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Another thousand posts filled and we're ploughing on through another weekend of squelching through parks before we hit the Long Dark Teatime of the Soul.

The AD chat continues...

Lots of talk from the MPs about how people will skip over into other tiers to go to the pub etc so it may make things worse rather than better.

It was also very clearly student driven when you looked at the case maps and it seems to have burnt itself out there.

@MissEWeatherwax

I just had a good cry, but I don’t feel any better. I can’t do this anymore. I have a permanent headache for weeks. Even if I could get a telephone consultation, they will just say stress and anxiety. Plus knowing my luck, I will be given a day when I’m at work! And I can’t answer my own phone at work, because I’m already answering phones.

Have another hug from me. We all cried here.

Also, meant to tell you that Shadow Over Innsmouth is on BBC sounds if you like sci fi.
For any other people who know of Lovecraft, here: m.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTHn2tHhcI

Always makes me smile.

@Orangeblossom7777

Lots of talk from the MPs about how people will skip over into other tiers to go to the pub etc so it may make things worse rather than better.

I wondered if that was deliberate. They’ll produce their monitoring tactics for surveillance of number plates, have transport police check where you go and why etc.

Just delurking to say BOLLOCKS. We were in tier 2, locked down and cases are coming down, now to go into tier 3

I already have someone on facebook saying she's glad because it will stop people going to the pub. FFS there will be no pubs left after this, and the people going to the pub clearly didn't make much diffference anyway as the cases are coming down.

for everyone

Wonder how many MPs (if any) knew what tiers they would be in previous to todays announcement and if there will be any backlash now its been mapped out?

My MP is basically a yes man and although we've gone from 1 to 3 because other parts of the county are high there's no way he'll vote against the Government. Useless twunt, but then you could put a blue rosette on a donkey around here and it would get elected, so there's no incentive for him to actually listen to anyone (not that Labour is any better on all this). Though someone has just asked on his Twitter feed whether this is an worth it in QALYS (quality adjusted life years that the NHS uses to make a cost-benefit decision on funding treatments) and he's said he doesn't know, it's too difficult to calculate 🙄.

My teenage DD is just stuck at home alone for weeks on end because her small cafe now can't open. My neighbours are constantly doing DIY when they are not shouting at DC. I think I might have to go round and kill them.

I already have someone on facebook saying she's glad because it will stop people going to the pub. FFS there will be no pubs left after this, and the people going to the pub clearly didn't make much diffference anyway as the cases are coming down.

Why are people obssessed with it spreading in pubs? It's as if pubs are the only place it spreads. Funny how cases are high in prisons & care homes, but none of the residents in either will have been down The Three Bellends partying away.

Personally I usually avoid our city centre at this time of year in the evenings because it gets too busy with very drunk people. However, I don't begrudge anyone having fun, or hospitality venues making money, which ultimately keeps people employed & contributes to the economy. I'm fed up with a sector still getting scapegoated.

I just commented "you'd be very unlucky to give him covid seeing as you haven't visited him since he moved in there 3 years ago, or for the period he was in the spinal unit,or after his surgery in the hospital. Please stop exploiting my brother for likes, comments and your own virtue signalling

Just going to reiterate a previous post of mine, There are a lot of people out there who only care about vulnerable people when they can use them as a tool to emotionally blackmail others.

Exhibit A

My teenage DD is just stuck at home alone for weeks on end because her small cafe now can't open.
Mine too. I'm sorry for students who have been quarantined but at least they have had the chance to live with their peers. Those who are living at home & unable to work have had less opportunities for social interaction.

Thanks @ISaySteadyOn. The video was weird, but good fun. I have now subscribed to Shadow over innsmouth. That will be bedtime listening.
I feel the tide is definitely changing. Most people I know are well and truly fed up. And just enduring life. It’s that or death.
On the local radio they are saying it’s not all bad news. We can still meet a local park/beach. How the hell do you meet 6 people and keep 2 metres. But only from next week.

Plus my DM said she would rather poke herself in the eye with a red hot poker then go for either a walk in local park or the beach in December.

Oh shit. This sucks, to say the least. I join the people who spent today crying. Though I am now fairly tipsy in an attempt to stop.

And had another argument with DH. I really don’t want to go and do anything over Xmas if he’s going to get stressed and spent the time ranting about anyone who gets within 1.5 metres of him and how selfish and ignorant they are.

I don’t know what to do.

I comfort ate during lockdown. I dont drink or smoke and drugs have never interested me. Might be an idea not to do things and enact rules which affect mental health.

I can feel a backlash coming on this from the general public. We are now one tier up from where we were (rural SW) but have had low cases and no deaths since at least August. I will be visiting friends as normal and have no intention of doing the government's crazy bidding any more. I think that in tier 2 you can only have a drink in a pub if you are having a meal is totally wrong. So many pubs will now have to close for good. If everyone is sitting at tables anyway, why do they also have to be eating? It doesn't make sense.
I hope that some of these ridiculous rules will be tweaked before next week. However, I have now, officially, had enough of this crap and will no longer obey. Power to the people, as Wolfie used to say, and you've got to be old to remember that!

I think if my DH was like that I would try and get some time to myself, in any way possible. I have the opposite - near total denial while being high risk, which is also frustrating but in a different way

I can feel a backlash coming on this from the general public

Yes, I think this combined with the contradictory Christmas message means people will be fed up with it all

Why can we go visit older relatives but not go to a cafe or out with a friend?

None of it really makes sense anymore.

I lost 10 stone 18 years ago.. I got gallstones and it got so bad i couldnt eat SOLID food. i went through months and months of excrutiating pain and A + E admission. In and out of A + E for TEN MONTHS. then doctors coming to my home to give me morphine injections whenever i had an attack . Finally a doctor prescribed me morphine pills which melted under the tongue that i took every time i had an attack. First attack was 3 July 2002 Scan was on 19 Dec 2002 after months of A + E admissions . Early Feb 2003 i got a letter telling me id have to wait for ANOTHER YEAR. I cried my eyes out and actually considered suicide. It was only after a private consultation with a surgeon and then another admission to hospital and an NHS appointment with the same surgeon that my op was promised within 6 weeks It was done 5 weeks later on 28 April 2003.id lost 8 stone by the time i had my op. The surgeon and two doctors told me it was caused by losing weight too fast. (slimming world) The pain was excrutiating and the first attack appeared after id lost nearly 4 stone. Back then i had no idea fast weight loss could cause gallstones I was losing a stone a month and whenever i did try to slow it down i either stayed the same or gained.

I actually did seriously consider suicide especially after i got the letter telling me id have to wait ANOTHER YEAR. I thought it was beyond cruel especially when id lost the weight by myself with willpower.

i believe due to mixing tramadol with as many over the counter drugs as i could in the early months to stop the pain i have been left with long term issues and its also left a bitter taste in the mouth TBH. Im grateful for the NHS but i was in so much pain i was thinking of overdosing (which i was bloody close to anyway) i also think the fact i won Class Slimmer of the Year and started to appear in our local papers may have been a factor in me getting the op sooner than that awful letter said but i shall never know.

More recently perimenopause and then lockdown hit. Ive struggled more in recent years.

Someone else mentioned similar HelenaDove I think, about weight loss and gallstones. Sounds painful

@MercyBooth that sounds utterly shit.

@Orangeblossom7777 I know it’s terror from DH really. He’s really unlucky in that he personally knows 5 people under 65 who have died from COVID - a statistical anomaly but true. And of course it really colours his view of the dangers. And I can’t go away, DS is utterly reliant on me emotionally. I’m just collateral in all this.

@MercyBooth

I comfort ate during lockdown. I dont drink or smoke and drugs have never interested me. Might be an idea not to do things and enact rules which affect mental health.

I deal with stress by exercise... About the only potential positive is that I could come out of this as fit as fuck

If only I could leave the mince pies alone....

Im the same as @Reedwarbler I dont do takeaways or loads of chocolate. I just got so fed up. Now ive got to tackle it AGAIN On the positive side im one of those who finds it easier to do that in the winter rather than the summer.

In more hopeful news the eligibility of support bubbles has been expanded. You can now form one if you care for someone who is disabled. And as DH is i can form one with another household.

@Orangeblossom7777

I HATE THIS SHIT!!

Similar to a PP i think rather than saying You cant have Christmas with your families they are saying yes you can but are hoping to guilt trip us into not doing so