ADs take the National Express when their lives' in a mess, it will make them smile

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🎤On the National Express
There’s a jolly hostess
Giving porridge free
She’ll provide you with shots
amaretto or what
You like to seeeeee...

Going out was in style
Now we’re stuck in this aisle
Dream of being free
And it’s hard to get by
When your arse is the size
Of the furlough feeeeeee🎤

Bah ba ba la
Bah ba ba la

Tomorrow belongs to meee...

Welcome to the 17:38 to freedom, stopping at virtual hugs, critical discourse, and random tangents along the way. ETA unknown...

Well that's me done for then. My arm is still slightly sore from being crashed into by an oncoming jogger who couldn't wait until I'd gone to pass the 2 abreast going her way. I had nowhere to go except hurl myself through a plate glass window so sacrificed my other side. Who the hell jogs in a High Street on a Saturday, anyway?

I'm pinning my hopes on her not having it, but I understand from Mumsnet that that is no obstacle to catching it.

Oof, I hope it feels better tomorrow.
Admittedly I did run through the High Street this morning, but at 9am with most of the shops shut (many permanently) and being pedestrianised, social distancing was far less bother than it would be in the local woods, and no dodging was required. I hate twats that give other runners a bad name, but then that happens with cyclists, BMW drivers and just about any other human activity.

Don't worry too much about MN and health from the people that think you need to scour down your flaps, toilet paper is poor hygiene and have phobias about toilet brushes. It really is extended proximity in poor ventilation that's the substantial risk.

There's another thread in chat where someone's been shoved for no reason in the supermarket; what is wrong with people that do things like that

It's very muddy everywhere at the moment, I'm avoiding most of my normal cross country runs as it's just no fun trying to stay upright.

@Reedwarbler
And good luck 110APiccadilly.
The message about vitamin D is working as there was non left at my local Boots.
I got my unessential new fridge freezer delivered yesterday. It was worth all the forbidden touching. It still makes me laugh the don’t touch signs. Ordered from local shop, they are only taking orders on phone. Little bit of supporting the high street.

I'll

Made the mistake of watching ITV News. Yay, we can probably have Christmas with other people. But with a return to the tier system before & after with "strengthened" restrictions in the top tiers.

I feel sick & panicky about what these additional measures might be- I suspect they won't be much less than what we've got now, with all the economic ramifications, & that takes a lot of the shine off any good news for me.

Plus there was a terrible bit with a grieving family who warned that we really shouldn't mix with relatives at all. I am sincerely sorry for their loss but I feel ITV News were being somewhat manipulative in their reporting.

The full on march of China is coming

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/21/exclusive-two-covid-tests-week-could-win-people-freedom-pass/

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Prof. Devi Sridhar
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The real question about Christmas-> do you want to expose the people you love to this virus? Do you want to be responsible for the virus spreading at your home, or as a guest in someone else's? If you don't, be cautious. Don't need govt to tell you that. It's common sense.
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Blatant emotional blackmail with no scientific backing to it. The 'don't kill your granny' thing is ridiculous and patronising. All the 'do yo want to be responsible' rubbish.
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Exactly. Can you imagine if a kid's grandparents decided to ignore the restrictions, came over, then later died of Covid? With the "don't kill granny" horseshit, that kid would be mentally scarred for life. That's not just patronising, that's deeply, DEEPLY, sick.

The emotional blackmail needs to stop. I really believe its another reason support for the restrictions is lessening.

Ooh Ive got another one.

Mumsnet Coronavirus board.................this isnt a proper lockdown.

Mumsnet Coronavirus board............ how can you want to see your family at Christmas...........all these businesses that are closed now are losing enough.

I am sharp this weekend.

Completely off topic. My kitchen sink is draining a bit slow (i use a strainer in the plughole but it cant catch everything) i popped into Sainsburys to get Mr Muscle sink and plughole unblocker and bought the Sainsburys own brand one. Has anyone ever used this and do you know if its okay to use if part of pipe is plastic?

@Reedwarbler So sorry to hear about your FIL. Hope you can get through somehow to get him the correct support.

In baby news: none. Which is not ideal, I'll need to have a discussion about induction today (waters broke nearly 24 hours ago so they won't want me going much longer without going into labour). I'm actually remarkably calm about the whole thing, to an extent that surprises myself!

I'm feeling really angry this morning. We're just so sick of the "don't kill Granny" fucking brainwashing. The younger-to-middle age generation have been well and truly fucked twenty times over, for an illness which barely affects them. Many have lost their education, employment, businesses, well-being, mental health, and they'll be paying for this with the recession and increased taxes for years, if not decades, to come, while sniggering Saint Boris and Twatcock grin "we're so enjoying keeping you on tenterhooks. Even with the news of a vaccine, we're going to keep you all locked up for a very long time yet, just because we can; and then, we'll retire on our millions, while you're all struggling through the recession that WE caused."

"Freedom passes."

"Your freedom is just a vaccine away."

"Tax pain for next year." No shit Sherlock, thank you Saint Boris, for causing this with your lockdown.

We aren't hearing anything about if gyms, pools and organised sport will be allowed to reopen in December: once again, is Saint Boris "you must keep fit to resist the virus" going to prioritise the pisshouses over the gyms and swimming pools? After they invested FUCKING THOUSANDS in becoming "Covid safe", and were forced to close again???????

I really hope that somehow, the public seriously hits back at the government; and that when the plandemic pandemic" is over, the public fights hard to have freedom restored. Any canvassers who darken my doorstep in years to come will be asked "what are your plans to avoid economic ruin in case of a virus, such as caused by Boris?".

I'm a bit concerned that iSage are apparently planning to rebrand themselves as climate change advisors. I don't think it's pure paranoia to worry that their advice on how to avoid global disaster will involve significant curbs on freedom. This time the message won't be, "Don't kill granny," it'll be, "Don't kill the planet," but the practical outcome will be the same.

I read that gyms etc. will reopen including in tier 3. DD works in a café, and I'm worried that we'll be put in a "no two households mixing indoors" tier that will still make them unviable.

I really don’t understand these extra measures in January because I thought the idea was the be vaccinating people by December? Surely once you’d vaccinated (by mid Jan?) the top 10% at risk population the hospitalisation and death rates will come down a lot..? Then by Feb you’d have vaccinated say the top 15-20% at risk population?
Surely you’d be getting to the point really quickly where immunity from having had it (if 5m of us have it at the moment ... and so many more have had it before...) + those vaccinated starts to naturally reduce the spread and it starts to calm down a lot?

The NHS will struggle I have no doubt because it struggles most winters but I am struggling to comprehend how COVID come mid Jan should still be as big a threat as it is now?

As an aside, I am so sick of people posting “I’ve been following the rules and sanitising everything but selfish people ...”. No rule has ever mandated washing shopping or sanitising yourself constantly or stripping your clothes off in your porch or any of that. If you wanted to do that it’s on you.

Same here. Its horrendous. Now we've also got the government threatening us with another lockdown if we want to see our families at Christmas.
I cant get past all this screaming about lockdown in January. Like we need a lockdown in January anyway, its too cold, its too wet and everyone's too bloody skint to do anything anyway.
Fuck off Boris you bumbling thundercunt.

As a serious aside though, most people will just be visiting family, not having raves. A lot will be too cautious and visiting family in care homes or hospital will be restricted if available at all. So I reckon Christmas will be the new street party conga....

I don't get that even the WHO has said that lockdown should be a last resort. So how can we plan another for January as default without even seeing what will happen with this lockdown and vaccination? I don't know how they can claim to be 'following the science'.

@wanderings I really want the pisshouses and the gyms 😃

I do fail to see how making an old fat woman
Like me have to stop their necessaries vigorous exercise regime is good for public health 🤷🏻‍♀️

@WouldBeGood

I do fail to see how making an old fat woman Like me have to stop their necessaries vigorous exercise regime is good for public health 🤷🏻‍♀️

Like all the most at risk people who were told to shield and some didn’t even leave bedrooms for months on end.. when actually some exercise and vitamin D from the sun would have been the most helpful.

New Scientist last week said it takes six weeks for antibodies to develop after the vaccine (presumably the second of the two) so it's not the immediate fix the politicians are making it out to be. If we had more protection for vulnerable people and less for the rest of us, that would surely be more effective. The Times is also reporting vaccination certificates should let people have more freedom. What about those of us who've had the fricking virus? The vaccine hasn't been tested for us.

"I read that gyms etc. will reopen including in tier 3. DD works in a café, and I'm worried that we'll be put in a "no two households mixing indoors" tier that will still make them unviable."
This is my worry, too. If they can open in December there might be households who go out for meals because it's Christmas, & all other treats & trips out such as panto have been cancelled so a meal out might be a nice possibility. But hospitality will miss out on the office parties & the Christmas shoppers who drop in for a bite to eat, & take a massive hit.

Trade in December gets these businesses through January, when less people can afford to go out for dinner. More restrictions will kill them.

However, there is still a huge assumption that everyone who works in hospitality is still enjoying furlough on 80% pay. That isn't true, & there is the daily worry of losing jobs.

@TabbyStar

New Scientist last week said it takes six weeks for antibodies to develop after the vaccine (presumably the second of the two) so it's not the immediate fix the politicians are making it out to be. If we had more protection for vulnerable people and less for the rest of us, that would surely be more effective. The Times is also reporting vaccination certificates should let people have more freedom. What about those of us who've had the fricking virus? The vaccine hasn't been tested for us.

These 'vaccination passports' really worry me. It sounds positively dystopian.

Another strange thing that Devi Shrider said was "Who are the vulnerable anyway?" You'd think with her level of education she would know that.

These 'vaccination passports' really worry me. It sounds positively dystopian
Will we all be issued with a Red Book, like new babies get? Perhaps we'll be told to plot our BMI on a chart as well? Will there be a space to record the developmental achievements of middle age, such as the date we first started making huffing & puffing noises when getting out of a chair, first grey hair, hot flushes & thinking all the doctors & policemen look really young these days?

I still have DCs' red books. It's funny though, that once they go to school any vaccinations got recorded on a tiny strip of paper which got filed somewhere in the house & then lost. I have no idea when they had tetanus, meningitis & HPV jabs done.

The only vac records I can easily lay my hands on are the cat's.