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Man refuses to get out of shared lift

232 replies

Georgeoftheinternet · 03/11/2020 00:37

Obviously we don’t know the whole story but it would appear that a person wanted to share a lift by themself.

Others facts - he may have alluded to her having corona. He record her. Neither wear wearing masks. Enclosed space.

Thoughts?

My personal thoughts are that she was in the right. If she wanted to use the lift by herself than I think people should respect her decision. To go around ranting, recording and speaking to her in a raised voice, especially given her reaction - than he’s out of order.

OP posts:
PachinkoFreeFood · 03/11/2020 09:45

It looks like she's in the wrong. Just get out the lift if you're uncomfortable.

Caroncanta · 03/11/2020 09:47

. To be clear her entitled behaviour would likely have made me aggressive and abusive after a point

So you'd have walked into the lift ready with your camera on the go, took an aggressive stance and shouted and sworn in the face of a woman standing there, because she didn't do what you wanted, and then posted it up on social media for likes as well?

fashu · 03/11/2020 09:47

All lifts in my city are one family or 1 person. I haven't come across anything different yet.
What really annoys me though is people using lifts that don't need too! Lifts should be for wheelchairs and pushchairs, they can't get an escalator. Even my grandmother who isn't great at walking uses escalators.
I was in Debenhams and there was groups of girls and lads using the lifts whilst I stood there with my pushchair. I waited 20 minutes to finally get in the lift so I could take my son to the toilet! finally an older gentleman got out and offered to use the escalator so I could actually go upstairs!

VinylDetective · 03/11/2020 09:48

She was completely in the wrong. She obviously wasn’t too worried about the Covid risk or she wouldn’t have stood there with him talking loudly in her face for more than three minutes.

C130 · 03/11/2020 09:50

The woman should have got out of the lift, if she did not want to share it, not stand there holding it up like that. She is out of order.

MartiniDry · 03/11/2020 09:58

Rather than sod about arguing, just take the goddamn stairs!
(Yes, I'm aware that I have no idea whether taking the stairs might be a problem for one or both parties).

If the woman doesn't want to share a lift designated for 2 persons she needs to get out and wait for the next opportunity to board it, or to use the stairs if able.

LaceyBetty · 03/11/2020 10:03

She was 100% in the wrong in my view. What makes her the last word in COVID lift etiquette. If she was worried about transmission, which she obviously wasn't given she stood face to face with him for ages, she should have left. She was ridiculous. I would lose it if she tried to do that to me. He was restrained.

Xenia · 03/11/2020 10:04

I would just have got out of the lift and let him go up alone.
I remember in the Waitrose lift in March or April getting in it once with someone not knowing if 2 or only 1 were allowed in and I just asked the other person if it were okay and she said yes and we had a nice chat - we both had masks on.

If that lift on the video is for 2 people only and she wants to be just with herself in it then she should leave it and he can go up and then once it comes back down she can take it. However may be she couldn't see the 2 person sign. Recording someone like that and then publishing it is a bit unkind really and in the EU could be unlawful actually as our GDPR is different from US privacy laws even in lifts. So over here she might get damages from him even if he were in the right.

Mustbe3ormorecharacters · 03/11/2020 10:06

@AcornAutumn

Bunnies “ I think the fact that she gets out at the end when someone else is present to witness the behaviour says it all.”

Me too.

Bingo.
Bleughbleughbleugh12 · 03/11/2020 10:09

I’m 100% on his side, and I hate aggressive men who shout abuse at women but in these circumstances he was very reserved! I’d have been much worse. The lift is ok for two people, if either were massively worried they should have been in masks. She should get out if she has a problem

JenniferSantoro · 03/11/2020 10:12

Both as ridiculous as each other. Whoever didn’t want to share should have just jumped out. That person could have walked up in that time, or let the other go and then recall the lift.
I wouldn’t have shared a tiny lift without a mask but to create such a scene is pathetic.

MNHQ
HopeMumsnet · 03/11/2020 10:14

Hi all,
We just wanted to take the opportunity to highlight the fact that it seems there is more to the story than the OP was aware of when she posted.
nextshark.com/asian-woman-accused-of-racism-after-refusing-to-share-elevator-with-black-man/

VivaMiltonKeynes · 03/11/2020 10:15

The lift sign should have read 2 people of the same family group as many of them do . Poor signage .

Bleughbleughbleugh12 · 03/11/2020 10:20

@VivaMiltonKeynes how does 2 people of the same family work?? That’s bat shit! So a mum, dad and 2/3/4 kids hve to get seperate lifts? Though in a family together 🤔 or a single parent with multiple kids?

1940s · 03/11/2020 10:20

She's in the wrong. If she wants to go above the recommended guidelines (two people allowed in the lift) then she should be the one to be inconvenienced not the other passenger.

Quaagars · 03/11/2020 10:23

Ooh. After MN's update, she's even MORE in the wrong if so!
Entitled as well as vile

Quaagars · 03/11/2020 10:25

Although he's disgusting if he said that about Corona to her too

switswooo · 03/11/2020 10:26

[quote HopeMumsnet]Hi all,
We just wanted to take the opportunity to highlight the fact that it seems there is more to the story than the OP was aware of when she posted.
nextshark.com/asian-woman-accused-of-racism-after-refusing-to-share-elevator-with-black-man/[/quote]
I'm confused, I've just watched all the videos and

  1. as soon as he enters the lift the woman tells him it's one person only
  2. in none of the videos does he tell her 'you brought corona' or 'you have corona'

Unless I've missed a video, I don't see why he is being blamed? She was in the wrong for telling him to leave the lift as soon as he entered it, as the lift says 2 people allowed.

Offthebus · 03/11/2020 10:30

He labelled her racist yet he was the only one to come out with the racist remarks "I should be the one running from you" she also asks him quite nicely imo why he came in here to say something indecent - so he must have said it before he started recording. He stands for racism against himself but can give it out so quickly too. So much hypocrisy?

switswooo · 03/11/2020 10:32

I do wonder if she would have told a white/Asian person to leave the lift.

switswooo · 03/11/2020 10:33

And she's not even wearing a mask!

switswooo · 03/11/2020 10:35

She lost any moral high ground when she tried to make someone vacate the lift.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 03/11/2020 10:36

Neither is he.

And as many posters here will
Be quick to tell you, if she’s not wearing a mask then she’s probably exempt.

He was vile and a hypocrite.

Caroncanta · 03/11/2020 10:38

Ooh. After MN's update, she's even MORE in the wrong if so!
Entitled as well as vile

Seriously? You see that second video and thinks that is evidence that it's her in the wrong? Are you for real? There's him shouting at her, calling her a fucking bitch, accusing her of bringing coronavirus to the country, using his size and male aggression to intimidate her, yet you think shes the one whose vile?

Jeezus Christ 🙄

Caroncanta · 03/11/2020 10:39

I do wonder if she would have told a white/Asian person to leave the lift.

Why wouldn't she have done? Or are you trying to shoehorn BLM into this as well?