ADs are braving the wind and the rain

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Hi all

I couldn’t find the new thread so here is one I set up. It’s windy out there! Glad I weeded my flowerbeds a couple of days ago.

So angry i had to take a Nytol One so i could sleep.

@Orangeblossom7777

I thought Wales had canceled exams same as Scotland

I thought the welsh Exam board came out publicly and said they should for 2021 for GCSE and AS levels - with just one exam per A-level to occur but we're still waiting I believe on The Welsh government actually saying/announce what's going to happen.

Unless I've missed something ? - I though it was early November - so next week or two - they were announcing.

Mercy I’m single but it has struck me that some couples will be stuck with each other.

Do you have any single friends? And don’t forget you can care for your mu, I hope she’s well.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54723339

Yep - It's The Welsh exams regulator calling for GCSE exams to be scrapped and it's 10 November Wales's education minister Kirsty Williams will announce what will happen.

They’re going to manage to get schools closed again. I just know it.

I’m close to the edge- hiding it until the kids go to bed

According to the BBC news site it's Andy Burnham calling for schools to shut, but in 2 weeks time, to give the teachers time to prep for online teaching. Then he wants a 2 week shutdown.

Where's his logic there?

If schools are open for 2 weeks now, how is that allowing teachers time to do online prep? Oh I know- in their own time! Or in lessons, whilst the children do worksheets. A first class education there, then especially for the year 11s & 13s.

Mr. Burnham goes on to say that closing schools will mean the children will get some sort of Christmas. Will they, Andy? Because if you shut schools a lot of parents will be screwed. A lot of parents will be screwed for work & money anyway thanks to a 4 week lockdown, so Christmas is going to be a bit crap for those kids anyway. I'm not just talking about them not getting presents, I mean there won't be much to eat, & no heating at home for some children. But it'll be ok because some families might be able to see some relatives indoors.

To be honest, I'd rather every child got a decent crack at education in school, plus all the "soft" advantages of school such as safeguarding. I'd rather have that than Christmas.

I'm sorry if some teachers are anxious about going to work. But they are not the only workers who are exposed to possible covid cases in the workplace, & they are not the only workers with no or inadequate PPE.

Someone has offered to donate these paintings to my local hospital. Because who wouldn't want to see pictures of (presumably) dead nurses as they walk into hospital?

@MercyBooth
I have DCs but they are well beyond the playdates age. So may as well be childless when it comes to meeting mates in a park with child in tow.

I am going to try to persuade a married friend with adult children to meet me outdoors for "exercise". Walking is exercise, right? It's also important to cool down from exercise after by sitting on a bench with a flask.

I think this is allowed? (Only problem is friend might not want to do it).

@Toomanybuttons
Lovely pictures! All nurses are Angels, though. They love to be told that. DM was a nurse, telling her that was a sure-fire way to get a disapproving look.

Do you think the artist can't do feet & faces?

Mercy I am childfree and now I WFH full time until god knows when my world has shrunk.

Apart from DH I think the only other person I talk too in RL is the tesco delivery driver

DH goes to the office so he interacts with other people while I look at the same four walls.

Are they dead or angles?

I'm ashamed to say I haven't frequented these threads for a while as things resembled a sort of normality, but I've sought you out again as the rest of mumsnet has once again descended into pointless arguements about whether you can or cannot drive to go for a walk. I. Literally. Cannot. Bear. It....

@TooManyButtons

Someone has offered to donate these paintings to my local hospital. Because who wouldn't want to see pictures of (presumably) dead nurses as they walk into hospital?

OMG why dont they just paint body bags and be done with it.

[quote TheOrchidKiller]@Toomanybuttons
Lovely pictures! All nurses are Angels, though. They love to be told that. DM was a nurse, telling her that was a sure-fire way to get a disapproving look.[/quote]
I am a nurse, on a Covid ward,and believe me, the whole 'Angel' (or more often 'Angle') thing is pissing me off more and more each day. I'm not an angel. I'm someone who hates my job, I hated it before Covid, I certainly hate it now. I do it because I have bills to pay, and surprisingly enough it's not that easy to just get a new career!

I've made it clear to everyone who knows me that if I die of Covid, anyone who says ridiculous things like how I was born to be a nurse, I died doing what I loved, will be haunted.

Andy Burnham wants to “save Christmas for the kids”? I hope he was as vocal about the vast numbers of Muslim kids who had family Eid cancelled at a few hours’ notice.

Please tell what AD is?

Because who wouldn't want to see pictures of (presumably) dead nurses as they walk into hospital?

If they’d been there when DH was in hospital I'd have assumed it reference their mythical status. You’d only see then in the distance and people you thought might be nurses turned out not to be but were something else but not drs of any type. It was a relatively new hospital which was hard to get to but lack of visible staff was something patients and vistors all commented on.

DDad hospitalisation this summer wasn’t so bad -Mum couldn’t visit but did see nurses at the door to get his washing.

@lolacola77 AD is anti-dementor, where "dementors" are those who are baying for full lockdown where you can't leave the house at all, that nothing matters apart from da virus. This is a thread for critical thinkers, who think there are views other than simply bowing down to the virus, and forsaking all else.

Meanwhile, I'm quite enjoying myself on a thread in the lion's den which I started, even if the dementors are twisting everything I say.

*sitting on a bench with a flask.

I think this is allowed? (Only problem is friend might not want to do it)*

I think they said about sitting in a bench with a sandwich as an example or something yesterday (gov)

It's all mad isn't it. Made me think of crisps on a bench

@MercyBooth

Any childless/childfree couples on this thread?

Re support bubbles this seems to be the group that are stuffed. If i was single i could be a support bubble with another household Im married so i cant , No kids so dont need childcare. Any journos fancy writing a piece on this?

Anyone can meet one other adult outside in a public place. Plus support for vulnerable people as before.

I'm fortunate that in school time, I'm able to get out and about. Also DH being a decent chap, popping off for a few hours is no issue at the weekend such as seeing my friend for a run yesterday which is still permissible.

Sorry to bring it back to children again, the rule of 6 shafted us unless one adult strategically stayed at home which was pretty dumb, and that worries me more as a medium term, indefinite issue. Not that it's specifically illegal to leave a 7 or 9 yo at home for a few hours... but it's not exactly the done thing...

I'm pleased about the clarification for parents of pre-schoolers as it wasn't a fair playing field when your young child is entirely dependent on you and has no access to an outlet like school for external social contact.

Of course life is messy and plenty of people are still screwed. Plenty of mums of school age children working through that time with an arsehole partner that buggers off to please himself or makes it bloody difficult for her to head out with non-exempt children...
A glaring social inequality has been closed up though.

DH and I have a very companionable relationship, but we do need external input to keep eachother fresh. We're under the same roof most of the day, every day now. He gets some input and purpose through work, but at least he talks to umpteen people per day... although some days, he's all talked out from the phone and conference calls leaving me to be talked at about Pokémon, Minecraft and whatever mindnumbing geeky details are rattling through DS1's head. Which goes a long way to explaining the amount of time I spend MNing...

@MercyBooth I’m not technically child free but DS is 18 and lives mainly with his dad due to work logistics. I probably only see him Friday evening and Sunday afternoon. My dad is very vulnerable due to severe COPD and diabetes and mum has a heart condition so I’ve been trying to stay away as much as possible. If it wasn’t for walking my dog I could go days without speaking to anyone. I had one friend in my support bubble last time but we struggled to find things to talk about in the end. Zoom and teams are no substitute when you spend 24 hours a day alone.

Whoops just realised you mentioned child free couples! Sorry.

@lolacola77

Please tell what AD is?

It comes from the number of covid threads that are full of people dementing away about following the made up rules. The ones where you were literally told you were killing people if you dared to eat a packet of crisps for 5 minutes on a park bench.

No one is denying covid isn't a serious virus and we should be doing things to minimise the spread.

But we are 'anti dementor' in that this thread is a safe place to just hang out without being pounced on as selfish or being called a murderer for questioning the validity of the restrictions. No tin hats to be seen. Just normal people trying to make sense of everything.

Oh and it isn't all about covid. General chat happens as well.

Someone on a previous thread gave a really good description of an AD. Much better than what I have said here but I hope I have done it justice.

@TooManyButtons

I've made it clear to everyone who knows me that if I die of Covid, anyone who says ridiculous things like how I was born to be a nurse, I died doing what I loved, will be haunted. 

Oh yes, this with bells on! Chose my career at 18 and there's no way I have the time or money to find another. I'm not a 'proper' nurse so can't be considered a NHS Angle... we get called much less savoury names