ADs are braving the wind and the rain

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Hi all

I couldn’t find the new thread so here is one I set up. It’s windy out there! Glad I weeded my flowerbeds a couple of days ago.

I just can't see how more people aren't bloody furious about this?!

The government have had 7 months to sort out track and trace, and they didn't.
They've had 7 months to come up with a strategy for managing excess demand in the NHS and they didn't (like i said earlier though with up to 25 percent of people in hospital with covid having acquired it in there, maybe they need to look at investing in infection control).
This whole mess is their fault. But will they see any consequence of this? Will there be any comeback for them. No. Because they are too busy enjoying their subsided lunches, jollying it up in the HOC bar pissing themselves that we are all blaming each other.
All while the economy collapses, people lose their homes and livelihoods and the poorest children are left to go hungry.

What the fuck has happened????

Wonder if the timing of it is a coincidence....it clashes with the US election I think, so all eyes won't be on what a shitshow this is.

This middle class woman also needs schools to stay open for DD2. She needs it.

I was up a lot of last night with DD1 who had a bad tummy ache (tips on getting DC to eat their veg welcome), and had thinking time.
All the names we get called have lost their sting for me. I don't particularly care anymore. I just think everything going on is cruel and inhumane. Destroying human interaction and lives is wrong regardless of the threat of disease.

Hold on, everyone. . We can get through.

@LivinLaVidaLoki there is also another eu trade deal vote next week which doesn't look as if it will go the way Boris wants. I think this is possibly a way of burying bad news. Also, it depends very much which paper you read as to exactly how dementoring the reporting is about a possible lockdown. Whatever, it keeps people focused on the wrong ball.
The government treat us with such contempt, don't they? Just wait till the next election.

The only kind of shopping I actually like is Christmas shopping. I normally do a stocking for DM, and I think I go to every shop in town getting little bits for it! I wasn't sure if I would do it this year anyway, with baby and all, and now I'm thinking the shopping will be miserable as well. Although DM does like it (the thing about DM is that when it comes to Christmas and birthdays she is basically a big kid so she loves getting lots of tiny presents in a stocking to unwrap, even if the presents individually aren't much!)

@Pleasedontdothat
That all sounds tough. I worry about my DD crashing again, too without work to go to.

She dropped an A level which meant she couldn't go to uni, but that actually turned out to be the right thing for her to do. A job in hospitality hasn't exactly been the best career move (not that we could have predicted this) but at least she's not stuck at a uni somewhere right now, & it has helped her turn a corner to have a job.

I hope that psychiatry appointment happens- they're like gold dust.

Hope you're ok.

Bloody lockdown.

I'm one of the lucky ones. In a safe job in education, DH also secure, both able to work from a nice home with a decent garden. DH absolutely did his fair share of home learning and childcare last time. We all love each other and have no mental or physical health concerns. We had a pretty good lockdown all things considered.

I suspect most people calling for a total lockdown are in similar or better circumstances. But the Trust I work for has schools in some really deprived areas and some of the children have been so badly affected. A large amount of our recent safeguarding training has been focussed on trying to overcome the issues caused by lockdown.

Just looking for some sanity! I am completely done in today! If we lockdown again I will have 0 income in December, se and can't claim any benefits so am well and truly fucked! Both kids will be out of work 1 May completely lose their job, eldest who is pregnant with a toddler says she won't get through another lockdown I am completely done 😔😔 xx

My tips on getting DC to eat veg comes from when DB was small (ridiculously fussy eater). If you have a bread machine, add cooked veg to the bread ingredients before running the machine. DB never even noticed that his bread had veg in.

I think a lot of this is about diffusing blame and responsibility. Ultimately, increased death rates from any other cause — be it cancer, suicide, circulatory illnesses or flu — all get put into different buckets. Whereas Covid deaths get counted as one lump amount. The gvt is terrified of the Christmas headlines: BORIS KILLS XMAS or CHRISTMAS COVID NHS CHAOS and so on.

I don’t know why people are suddenly listening to Ferguson again, he clearly just pulls frightening numbers out of his arse like some kind of horrifying magician.

It’s also about muddying the waters around Brexit, in my opinion. In future, any economic impact can be fudged with, ‘ah, but coronavirus’ and never squarely set at the door of Brexit. (And vice versa, to a degree.)

I also think the knives are out for Sunak. Boris is in trouble so let’s smear the most likely replacement to shore up the PM’s position.

In summary: aaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhhhh fuckwitbastardshitarseholes

We have officially gone into Tier 2 now which means I will no longer be able to meet my friends in the pub or for coffee at the gym. We will have to go further afield and claim we are support bubbles or something. I can't do this without my friends again.

A friend told me there is a rumour that we will be in tier 3 by the weekend so gyms will close. I really hope this is a rumour and I really hope pubs don't close. They can't take away everything of mine again, I'm having such a tough time as it is trying to figure out what is going on in my marriage. If work and the gym get taken away then that's everywhere I go to escape just gone and I'll be stuck at home feeling even more miserable and grumpy.

I just can't do it.

I wonder if the timing of a lockdown is because Dido Harding got sacked from T&T & they are trying to sort the mess out.

Dunno. Suspect there is actually no big plan behind it, just a panic because other countries in Europe are doing it. And because it's all about keeping hospitals open, which is important, but should not be the only consideration.

All this "it's to save our NHS"- other countries don't have the NHS, & if you believe some opinions, other countries have better healthcare than we do. But they're also struggling, so are they actually any better?

PISSING down outside. Just as I was going to go out. Bastard weather.

@110APiccadilly

My tips on getting DC to eat veg comes from when DB was small (ridiculously fussy eater). If you have a bread machine, add cooked veg to the bread ingredients before running the machine. DB never even noticed that his bread had veg in.

Brilliant! We do have a breadmaker as it happens. Def worth a try.

Arrrgghhh!!

I can't believe this. I've just gone onto yougov and one of their daily questions is "At this time, would you support or oppose a second national lockdown, similar to that in April and May?"

63% are voting that they either strongly support or slightly support a second lockdown!!

Only 29% either strongly or slightly oppose a second lockdown.

Who are these bloody people? I can't believe that is correct, there's a poll on aibu and even that, on here, has 66% AGAINST!!

Sorry so many of us are feeling shit today with the prospect of another pointless lockdown being implemented.
I’ve just been out to drop my son at work and one of my favourite songs came on my playlist - The Damned Smash it Up. These lyrics have inspired me:

We've been crying now for much too long
And now we're gonna dance to a different song
Gonna scream and shout til my dying breath
Gonna smash it up til theres nothing left

I’m going on a one woman riot again this nonsense. Any reports of a purple haired, purple DM wearing person in a Three Bellends t-shirt causing ructions is me. Visit me in prison please!

Apparently downing Street are furious at the leak and launching an inquiry.
Like they didn't leak it...fucking idiots.

The Telegraph, one of the least D papers, has a comparison of Covid numbers.

King's College, extrapolating from its contributors, finds 43,569 new symptomatic cases per day on average, doubling every 28 days. Week ending Oct 25: 36,251 daily new infections, R1.1

Imperial, using interim material from its React-1 study, says 100,000 new cases a day in England, doubling every nine days. Week ending Oct 25: 96,000 new infects, R1.6.

ONS, 51,900 new cases per day, 568,000 people infected at present, doubling every 12-14 days. Up to Oct 25: 51,900, R1.

Sage believes 50,000 to 63,000 new infections daily, R1.1-1.3.

No one seems to mention that R is increasingly considered meaningless as it's not spread evenly like flu, but occurs in clusters. Therefore on many occasions (80-90%) R is 0, and on a few, where a superspreader is involved, R is much higher. Which is why K is coming into use, which takes this uneven spread into account.

If we follow Imperial's models to their logical conclusion, every man, woman and child in the country will have had Covid in under 3 months if we leave it alone. As that seems unlikely, when will infections stop increasing?

Which 'science' is the Government going to 'follow'?

I'm lying on our spare bed breathing. I can do this right now. I can't do much else. If I can keep breathing for long enough, the panic will subside.

King's College is the Zoe app study, isn't it? I would tend to believe that and ONS over Imperial - their data quality should be better.

Email your MPs, it's quick and easy to do and could prevent a complete lockdown, particularly if you have a conservative MP and are currently in tier 1. Include any stats etc. if useful or just your personal story. It's the one immediate thing that could make a difference.

Reading comments in The Times this morning, the majority are against a lockdown, it may not take much to push against it.

@NothingIsWrong

I'm lying on our spare bed breathing. I can do this right now. I can't do much else. If I can keep breathing for long enough, the panic will subside.

If you are having a panic attack, put on an exercise video, get moving physically to distribute the adrenalin.

DS going into tier 3 tomorrow, so full lockdown within days if the press is right.

Day 8 of lockdown today, tonight son who lives below us has bought a shed load of fireworks which he will let off when it gets dark for grand children, the highlight of my week will be videoing this. A neighbour up the road has lit all the christmas lights in her trees.

I rather wish I had a conservative MP. Mine has no interest in representing me at all. I am everything she loathes. Otoh, if I wrote her in favour of lockdown, maybe that would push her to be against it!

Shit Sean Connery has died. Dark day for Bond fans.

Boris shit show at 4pm today ..,