ADs head off to The Three Bellends and discuss luxury duvets and stationery

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(Socially distanced of course and in strictest obedience of all localised lockdowns and 3 or 5 tiers and whatever illogic the powers that be can dream up next)

The original digital discussion continues...

Yeah agree about grieving. Used to be you wore a black arm band I think so people knew you were grieving

And it is grieving. It’s well for me it was like being in a fug and for a bit it used to bite me back and would start bubbling

It gets better. Sometimes I take the grief out to have a look at again and grieve then I put it away again
Memories

Fiinegans

For the record..... yet again (in case you didn’t get it the first 100 times posters were trying to tell you) baby clothes are being sold in the supermarkets as are sanitary protection. The chemists are also open, together with B&M - who are also allowed to sell everyday essentials.

Clothes have been classed as non essential in the supermarkets because places like New Look, Next, H&M etc have had to close because they only sell non essential items. Supermarkets sell a mix of essential and non essential items, therefore they can sell essential items but not non essential items - making it fair on the stores that usually sell the non essential stuff but have now been forced to close. M&S is open for food only. No clothing is to be sold.“

I’m confused. This seems to say supermarkets in Wales can sell clothing at the start but then at the end it seems not.

Sorry, missed first set of inverted commas there.

My husband, who has lost half his income overnight for the foreseeable future, has told me he gets no joy from his life anymore or from the children. He's said before he doesn't want to live anymore and I'm terrified one day he might see it through. I've tried to plan out half term and keep us busy but the first day he got really really drunk and ended up in a hungover state so left me to go out by myself with the children then today we've had to cancel the plans because both children weren't happy in the car. He won't get help and is a pilot so any hint of depression would mean he would probably be grounded and I know he would never do anything at work but I just don't know what i can suggest. The past few months he's been using me as an emotional punch bag and taking out his frustration by being very short with me or shouting at us all. I can totally understand why he feels this way but if all he can use is alcohol I can't help him anymore! It's like he's on a self destruct mission to just drink himself into an early grave but I feel like this is all my fault because his other release (sex) is something I'm not always up for 6 months after having a baby.

@AcornAutumn
I think basic baby clothes are allowed - sleepsuits etc, but not adult clothes. Unless you can prove you need them. I suspect if you take in a shivering child you may be able to buy a sweatshirt and/or a coat.

@Vintagelovingmum that sounds awful. Would he speak to someone like Breathing Space over the phone, or internet?
Really important to remember you are not responsible for his actions, hard as that may be.

If he won’t seek help, or even if he does, could you get therapy? Or speak to his family/a friend? It’s a lot to bear on your own.

For the record..... yet again (in case you didn’t get it the first 100 times posters were trying to tell you) baby clothes are being sold in the supermarkets as are sanitary protection.

Only because your eminent leader backed down over the public backlash and admitted he was clueless as to what was essential to anyone but him. Some supermarket managers had decided they WERE NOT selling sanitary products as they classed them as non-essential.

Try to keep up with current events.

Filthy day here as well. My dog has gone to the vets for the day to have her teeth scaled and polished (Aargh - poodle teeth). Having been my constant companion all these months it feels very strange not to have her next to me for a few hours. (My h has also gone cycling, so I am totally alone and lonely in the house.)
As it looks like the poppy sellers won't be calling this year I got a pattern off the Internet and have knitted a couple. Very simple - just as well as knitting is not my best skill.
Did you see Victoria Derbyshire is now apologising profusely for having suggested she would ignore the 'roolz' over Xmas in various newspapers? She must have been got at for not following the party line. I just feel like I want to shout 'for gods sake, if that's how you feel, have the courage of your convictions, don't cave at the first hint of criticism'.

I’m confused. This seems to say supermarkets in Wales can sell clothing at the start but then at the end it seems not

Tesco cannot sell clothing. As clothing is not essential - hence why clothes shops have had to close, temporarily. A limited range of smaller sized ESSENTIAL clothing (vests, babygro’s, nappies etc) and equipment (Bottles, teats, dummies, sterilisers, formula, wipes, Milton etc) are being sold in the supermarkets and larger chemists, such as Boots - as baby clothing and equipment is classed as essential.

My home made poppy, if anyone's interested!

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-confirm-20000-worth-non-19167813.amp

The reason why ONE supermarket blocked off it SP aisle - temporarily, whilst the Police carried out investigations - Got it now?? Keep up dear

Only because your eminent leader backed down over the public backlash and admitted he was clueless as to what was essential to anyone but him. Some supermarket managers had decided they WERE NOT selling sanitary products as they classed them as non-essential.
Try to keep up with current events

The reason why ONE supermarket blocked off it SP aisle - temporarily, whilst the Police carried out investigations - Got it now?? Do keep up dear 🙄

@110APiccadilly

A friend had her dad die suddenly, in his sixties I guess. I remember being shocked when another friend commented about 3 months later that the first friend, "really should have got over it by now." No wonder we have rising rates of mental ill health really, is it? If you don't fit your grief into some acceptable time scale then people think you're over-reacting.

It wasn't grief and death but we had a couple of times when kids were young where a whole succession of things went wrong - serious illness, serious accidents money issues redundancy.

I don't think we bleated on about it - as people weren't very interested past sort of oh know have you heard the news type way but they did expect us to be over things very fast - DH was still having treatment when I was hearing oh you should be over that.

I'm in South Wales - I've been out over weekend and today and I can buy everything I normally can in Tesco Met and the previous Spar now something else shop and the pharmacy is open. It has put me off going slightly further afield to Aldi and other big supermarkets – which we normally would and did think of doing partly as it would be cheaper but also to pick up Halloween baking supplies.

I don’t know about buying clothes – I suspect we’d have to do on-line but TBH I’d prefer to do clothes shopping in next town over – more shops, stock and better atmosphere but I’m not sure we’ll be able to do that before Christmas as I believe we come out of the firebreak straight back into local lockdown.

The whole sanitary wear story is bizarre and has been explained by store, welsh government and police who apparently cordon it off in one shop due to early morning burglary. It’s more an example of poor communication and confusion around whole “essentials shopping”– something that sounds almost sensible right up to the point you try and define it and if you don’t define it causes complete confusion.

Our relatives in England aren't faring much better some going into teir 3 and some having it threatened - also illnesses and delays in treatments and redundancies aren't helping any of them.

When I was at university, a family friend died of a brain tumour. I saw his deterioration first hand and there was an extent to which his death was a relief. I felt finally allowed to mourn the vibrant, funny, and interesting man who had disappeared long before he died. I have had other deaths in my life too but some are not my stories to tell.

I have seen, to quote L.M. Montgomery again, the chilly calm on the brow that only the dead may wear and I think those experiences do influence my thinking.

On a different note, can a 6 yo watch Yonderland?

@Reedwarbler that’s lovely. Is it crocheted?

Friend phoned went into a local supermarket think big. Mentioned the rulz re buying clothes, shoes, the member of staff told her. It was a load of bollox and the manager said if a customer needs something, they do not have to explain why just take them there. Am not mentioning supermarket or area, because of the snitches that may read this thread.

Business groups have gone to Senedd with some commonsense advice, hope they listen.

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/rules-essential-items-supermarket-firebreak-19172590

I'm getting to the age where I attend more funerals than weddings. My lovely fil died at Christmas, he was in a home due to Alzheimer's, and we're so glad he went before all this. He always knew when mum was coming over, even if he didn't know what day or time or was, bless him. It would have killed him and mum if they hadn't been able to visit.
2 more deaths since then, one after the funeral restrictions came in so I couldn't go to that, didn't make the cut but that's fine.
Plus we had a family dog die, that was hard as I couldn't comfort my daughter as she lives away and took the dog with her when she moved.
My mum died several years ago but unfortunately there were "issues" that came to the fore when she died that have caused family fractures, that hasn't helped.

@WouldBeGood no, it's knitted in rib and I sewed the centre black bit. I like knitting but I am painfully slow.

I saw my dad for the last time the afternoon before he died. He was not my daddy, cancer had taken him before his time. He was blessedly comatose. I was relieved when the hospital phoned to be honest. My last memory was hearing what they call the death rattle, never forgotten.

@Reedwarbler very clever!

checking in. weather is utter utter shite here - because its the school hols of course but i cant go anywhere anyway because ds is still isolating. FAB.

Hello to new people! welcome

and if you've come here to cause an argument then kindly fuck off

It finally stopped raining here - even some sun.

We've already done the daily walk in the wet - even if we weren't in firebreak there's so little open still in city I think we'd be struggling anyway- and we can't travel as lock lockdown. Kid are little bored but having less impact on DH working in front room than I feared.

Blowing a hoolie here, horizontal rain. Typical half term.

My DF died of pneumonia last year. It was in a hospital, which wasn't ideal, but it was a nice friendly ward. Other than that it was fairly quick and he didn't really seem to be in pain. I'm not sure how different that is from a covid death other than the lack of being able to be with them (though DF often told us to "shove off" whilst he was still able to talk!)

@justasking111

I saw my dad for the last time the afternoon before he died. He was not my daddy, cancer had taken him before his time. He was blessedly comatose. I was relieved when the hospital phoned to be honest. My last memory was hearing what they call the death rattle, never forgotten.

Yep, dad was like that the last time we saw him on Christmas day. He died on Boxing day.