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Trump +ve for Covid

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/10/2020 06:09

If he was a decent person I'd be wishing him well. He's not. I'm not.

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turnitonagain · 04/10/2020 01:51

His doctor said at the press conference that they were 72hrs post positive test which would have meant Trump was positive on Wednesday, not Thursday.

Also as we know the event for the new supreme court nominee last week Saturday is now a cluster he was infected some time ago. Hence why he’s symptomatic and in hospital already.

CherryValanc · 04/10/2020 04:14

@Darker

I imagine DT had a +ve test and decided to crack on, thinking he would be asymptomatic and no one would need to know. He might have thought to announce that he had had the ‘China virus’ and it was nothing.
This seems very likely, it would make the timeline make more sense.

He tested positive at a date further back than declared, it was decided there was no need to make that known as he had no symptoms. When he started to show symptoms it had to be admitted- but lie that he.had just been tested with as that it's not an admission he knew he had the virus but had been going around knowinly infecting others.

Roussette · 04/10/2020 07:26

I bet he suspected that he was under the weather before the debate and ignored th2.30ae symptoms

I watched the Debate live and at that time on the long running Trump threads I commented
'Trump looks very sweaty'

I remember it distinctly. He looked like a man with a temperature, shiny faced.

HIs ego is so big he would imagine he was asymptomatic at that stage, and he just carried on. Also his tiny brain wouldn't compute as to how infectious he was and how easy it would be to pass it on.

I wonder when we'll be hearing who of his maskless family sat in the front row has it...

Darker · 04/10/2020 08:40

His video address is very odd.

Darker · 04/10/2020 08:42

Has anyone actually heard how Melania is doing? DT just days that she’s younger than him and statistically less at risk (or words to that effect).

zafferana · 04/10/2020 16:35

We'll never know for sure how he's doing, because he is NEVER going to let his doctors give anything other than a 100% rosy picture.

Trump's carefully curated image of himself is of a man who is vigorous, healthy, energetic and strong. Remember when he wrote his own doctor's appraisal back in 2017 saying that he was the most healthy man ever to take on the presidency? Remember how he magically 'grew' an inch so that his weight would be 1lb under the obese category? This is not a man who is ever going to admit to any kind of weakness.

So forget the press briefings, whatever his phalanx of doctors say outside Walter Reed, or whatever carefully staged and edited videos he puts out. He's sick enough to be in hospital in stage one of this illness when stage two is generally accepted to be the really dangerous bit and he's agreed to be injected with an experimental drug. That doesn't chime with his 'I'm doing great!' message from where I'm sitting.

Roussette · 04/10/2020 16:46

Totally agree zafferana

The 10 doctors in white coats outside WR Med Centre made a right pigs ear of the 'press conference' raising more questions than giving answers.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 04/10/2020 17:14

@Roussette

I bet he suspected that he was under the weather before the debate and ignored th2.30ae symptoms

I watched the Debate live and at that time on the long running Trump threads I commented
'Trump looks very sweaty'

I remember it distinctly. He looked like a man with a temperature, shiny faced.

HIs ego is so big he would imagine he was asymptomatic at that stage, and he just carried on. Also his tiny brain wouldn't compute as to how infectious he was and how easy it would be to pass it on.

I wonder when we'll be hearing who of his maskless family sat in the front row has it...

Yes he did look a bit unwell at the debate. I thought he looked pale, more yellow than orange! Also he came across as irritable rather than his usual bombastic self. The type of irritability you get when you are unwell.
zafferana · 04/10/2020 17:16

Yes, they did, didn't they @Roussette? Why be so evasive when you know it's going to wind the press up and make the whole thing look like a cover-up for gawd's sake?

I thought it ridiculous too that Trump, in his 4-min long video, said he hadn't been feeling so great on Friday, but now he's feeling better, when on Friday we were told he was doing great and that he was only being taken to hospital because of 'an abundance of caution'? It totally contradicted that message. Makes them all look ridiculous. I mean, how stupid do they think we all are?

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 04/10/2020 17:21

Now he's on steroids as his oxygen saturation levels have dropped.
www.bbc.co.uk/news

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 04/10/2020 17:27

Apparently he's been given Dexamethasone.
I think he's more poorly than he's letting on.
Like we've been told that Boris was much iller than the British public were told at the time.

Roussette · 04/10/2020 17:29

Yes.... the Govt here couldnt wait to tell us about Boris's oxygen
sympathy vote
Grin

Darker · 04/10/2020 23:00

What the hell is Trump thinking of?

Aesopfable · 05/10/2020 11:07

@Darker

What the hell is Trump thinking of?
Was this comment in relation to anything particular? It seems to apply to pretty much his whole presidency and probably most before that.
Darker · 05/10/2020 11:20

His armoured car tour! Totally undermining the pandemic public health messaging.

It was like “Barnard Castle? Hold my presidential beer.... “.

PersephonePromotesEquanimity · 05/10/2020 11:22

It does seem incredibly ... feudal. Vassals ready and willing to give up their lives for their liege lord ... Hmm

cathyandclare · 05/10/2020 11:24

Yes the dexamethasone suggests he's more seriously unwell than he's claiming. The drive-by was bizarre and ill-judged, even for Trump.

Darker · 05/10/2020 11:34

He’s tweeting again. Caps lock on.

JamieLeeCurtains · 05/10/2020 11:35

Oh lord, what's he saying?

zafferana · 05/10/2020 11:38

Interesting article from today's New York Times:

‘Is he sicker than we’re hearing?’ Outside experts weigh in on Trump’s condition

In photos and videos released by the White House, there has been hardly any sign that President Trump is sick, and painting in the broadest of strokes, his doctors have offered a fairly rosy portrait of his condition. But to some outside experts who examined that portrait closely, some things seemed off.

How much, for example, should people make of the president’s fluctuating oxygen levels? And why did his doctors decide to begin treatment with a steroid drug?

To some infectious disease experts, there were signs that Mr. Trump may be suffering a more severe case of Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, than his physicians have acknowledged.

“This is no longer aspirationally positive,” Dr. Esther Choo, a professor of emergency medicine at Oregon Health & Science University in Portland, said of the doctors’ statements. “And it’s much more than just an ‘abundance of caution’ kind of thing.”

Based on his doctors’ account, Mr. Trump’s symptoms appear to have rapidly progressed since he announced early Friday that he had tested positive for the coronavirus.

Mr. Trump had a “high fever” on Friday, and his blood oxygen levels dropped on two occasions, his doctors said, including to a level that can indicate that a patient’s lungs are compromised. The symptom is seen in many patients with severe Covid-19.

The president’s medical team also said that he had been prescribed dexamethasone. This is a steroid used to head off an immune system overreaction that kills many Covid-19 patients. And it is generally reserved for those with severe illness.

“The dexamethasone is the most mystifying of the drugs we’re seeing him being given at this point,” said Dr. Thomas McGinn, a top physician at Northwell Health, the largest health care provider in New York State.

The drug, he said, was normally not used unless the patient’s condition seemed to be deteriorating.

“Suddenly, they’re throwing the kitchen sink at him,” Dr. McGinn said. “It raises the question: Is he sicker than we’re hearing, or are they being overly aggressive because he is the president, in a way that could be potentially harmful?”

Of course, given the patient, there may be another explanation.

Some experts raised an additional possibility: that the president is directing his own care, and demanding intense treatment despite risks he may not fully understand. The pattern even has a name: V.I.P. syndrome.

Darker · 05/10/2020 12:03

He’s promising tax cuts. Big tax cuts. HUGE.

JamieLeeCurtains · 05/10/2020 12:15

It's like National Lampoon have taken over

Darker · 05/10/2020 12:54

I guess they are not letting him out so he’s tweeting instead.

BruceAndNosh · 05/10/2020 15:33

@Darker

He’s promising tax cuts. Big tax cuts. HUGE.
Well to give him due credit, he is an expert on paying less tax
TracyBeakerSoYeah · 05/10/2020 16:21

Unfortunately Covid can affect the brain even the smallest of them.

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