ADs Not Flouting, Not Flaunting not even Brazenly Defying.

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Just trying to live a meaningful life in an increasingly bizarre world in which nothing makes sense any more.

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Hello again.

Love to everyone poorly, trying to work (wherever that may be), wrangling children, & with relatives in hospital, (I have one in a hospital ATM, seems ok for now), or trying to get in to a hospital or GP surgery.

Have had a lovely time seeing DPs. DM very anxious, struggling a lot with OCD, & fear of getting covid or passing it on. It was great to see them but weird not being able to get too close- to have hugged them would've been good but I know she wouldn't have coped with it.

So I'll settle for having spent some time together.

Oh, & just to add a bit about the NHS app. DF downloaded it. Arrived at our house, went to show it to me (at arms length, of course- yes, he does have abnormally long arms) & it was saying he was 200 miles from our house. Interesting.

I'm sorry that people aren't being allowed into places if they don't have the app, or even a smartphone. That really isn't right. Where DD works they have paper forms for anyone who prefers them. She says it's a pain getting customers to do it because they take ages & it's her responsibility to collect the forms, with threats to the business of spot checks from the council, but they want the customers so they accommodate accordingly.

Well after one of the dementors on another thread started to rant how the NHS was splendidly business as usual... I got DH to ring and chase DD2's eyes.

They have cancellation slots all over the place and can see her next week!

Once again as we talked about with shops, it will be the more welcoming places which get trade perhaps - people will vote with their feet.

It is stormy and wet here today, wind rushing round the house...trying to embrace this and have some soup and a hot shower. Self care I guess. I had a box thing from Blurt which had lovely Jasmine oil in it...

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/10/01/selfish-hypocrisy-champagne-lockdownism-demolishing-society/

Thought this was quite a good read,

....Perhaps this shrivelling of the Left’s progressive instinct into anti-apocalyptic neurosis explains the unwillingness of the virtuous to speak up for the 74,000 people who, according to official estimates, could die as a result of lockdowns....

I got my phone in 2016. The app won't download on android with any earlier software than marshmallow (6). Which came out in 2015 BUT my phone still has the older software (lollipop) and won't update to marshmallow so I can't download it.

There was a post on MN this week about this message some were getting along the lines of 'possible risk of having been in touch with a case' which seemed stressful and confusing. The Times was saying about a third false positives. The thought of being told to isolate from a problem with the app

@Orangeblossom7777

There was a post on MN this week about this message some were getting along the lines of 'possible risk of having been in touch with a case' which seemed stressful and confusing. The Times was saying about a third false positives. The thought of being told to isolate from a problem with the app

Well computers are now our education, our social interaction, our shopping... they may as well be our jailers as well!

@Orangeblossom7777
Self care I guess. I had a box thing from Blurt which had lovely Jasmine oil in it..

Ooh, sounds nice. We've had a couple of Blurt buddy boxes in the past. Very helpful to me at the time.

Had to Google Blurt it looks like a great concept will look closer later.

Just overheard an elderly lady going full AD in the post office.

Cashier: that was a big sigh Mrs S
Mrs S: I know. I’m just fed up. Absolutely scunnered with this.
Cashier: with what?
Mrs S: all this carry on. Masks and all that. It’s all a load of shite.

Raised a smile behind my mask. And this is Glasgow btw, swearing elderly folk are not uncommon.

I’m feeling very depressed now two weeks since seen parents. My sister has bubbled with them. It’s now been 6 month! I can’t do this for another 6 months. I’m sure our council only want mini lockdown for the extra money. Sod people’s mental health. My DP’s are 82! I have cried so much this week again.
My phone is too old for App. I’m not wasting storage not it and my battery is failing too. I have my DD’s cast off.

@Orangeblossom7777

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/10/01/selfish-hypocrisy-champagne-lockdownism-demolishing-society/

Thought this was quite a good read,

....Perhaps this shrivelling of the Left’s progressive instinct into anti-apocalyptic neurosis explains the unwillingness of the virtuous to speak up for the 74,000 people who, according to official estimates, could die as a result of lockdowns....

Really interesting thanks

A couple of posters on the "Guess the John Lewis advert" thread seem to like my contribution so thought id share

Tune should be "If we Tolerate This Then Your Children will be Next originally by Manic Street Preachers. Cut to shots of shut in uni students having food delivered or being picked up by their parents.......all wearing face masks ........cut to the one student standing alone who then lets go of a red balloon which then floats up up and away until it slowly comes down over Barnard Castle Where it COULD turn into Cummings face and the words IF YOU TOLERATE THIS. Then your Christmas will be next appear on the screen.

@HeIenaDove

A couple of posters on the "Guess the John Lewis advert" thread seem to like my contribution so thought id share

Tune should be "If we Tolerate This Then Your Children will be Next originally by Manic Street Preachers. Cut to shots of shut in uni students having food delivered or being picked up by their parents.......all wearing face masks ........cut to the one student standing alone who then lets go of a red balloon which then floats up up and away until it slowly comes down over Barnard Castle Where it COULD turn into Cummings face and the words IF YOU TOLERATE THIS. Then your Christmas will be next appear on the screen.

@HelenaDove that is genius

I’ve been thinking about that song a fair bit recently. It’s a tune.

HelenaDove there should be a like button on Mumsnet.

ha @HelenaDove i think you've got it bang on there!

Good news! Sainsbury's are confident it'll all be over by Christmas- picked up theie Christmas food ordering brochure and theres a huge section on "buffets and sharing". Many a lovely looking thing that serves 20. Rule of 6 will really scupper the canapé sales if its still in place!

Masks at pickup and drop off have come to our school. How long before hazmat suits?

the anti-evolutionary drive to sacrifice the future on the altar of the present.

This has solidified a half formed thought of mine. We know the economic damage we are doing now, and the damage to people's physical and mental health through a combination of shutting down NHS services and social isolation, will have a huge death toll in the future. Far in excess of the likely deaths by Covid. But it's ignored.

@MissEWeatherwax Solidarity, I know what you mean about not seeing parents.
Said goodbye to mine. DF said he hoped we'd see each other again soon, because he's an optimist. But who knows when?

The Blurt Foundation/ Blurt It Out is a charity that provides online support for depression & anxiety. They have a number of blogs that got me through a tough time supporting someone else. I signed up to free weekly emails which come with links to helpful articles. They have resources for schools & organisations about depression. They also sell Buddy Boxes, which contain a selection of nice little treats, which you can buy for yourself or have sent to someone.

They're very much into self-care & not neglecting yourself when life's shit. Whilst I'm the first person to get annoyed at being told to have a bubble bath, I do think it's easy to forget to do even basic stuff like wash your hair if you have no emotional energy left, so I very much like that side of what they do, & the reminders that we all matter.

@SirSamuelVimes

the anti-evolutionary drive to sacrifice the future on the altar of the present.

This has solidified a half formed thought of mine. We know the economic damage we are doing now, and the damage to people's physical and mental health through a combination of shutting down NHS services and social isolation, will have a huge death toll in the future. Far in excess of the likely deaths by Covid. But it's ignored.

"Kings built tombs more splendid than the houses of the living and counted the names of their descent dearer than the names of their sons. Childless lords sat in aged halls musing on heraldry or in high cold towers asking questions of the stars. And so the kingdom of Gondor sank into ruin, the line of kings failed, the white tree withered and the rule of Gondor was given over to lesser men."

J.R.R. Tolkien saw it coming. Value the past and the present more than the future, and your civilisation is a goner.

(Does not necessarily mean, as I suspect Tolkien as a Catholic might have meant, that everyone should have children - though there's an argument to be made that our society does make it harder to have children than most previous ones did, and that has many and varied implications.)

@HeIenaDove

A couple of posters on the "Guess the John Lewis advert" thread seem to like my contribution so thought id share

Tune should be "If we Tolerate This Then Your Children will be Next originally by Manic Street Preachers. Cut to shots of shut in uni students having food delivered or being picked up by their parents.......all wearing face masks ........cut to the one student standing alone who then lets go of a red balloon which then floats up up and away until it slowly comes down over Barnard Castle Where it COULD turn into Cummings face and the words IF YOU TOLERATE THIS. Then your Christmas will be next appear on the screen.

Omg you are a fucking genius. I love it!

Bit wet and windy out there tonight. Anyone lost any fencing panels yet?