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Just trying to live a meaningful life in an increasingly bizarre world in which nothing makes sense any more.

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I was puzzling where to put masks in my handbag for when I have to put one on. Friend gave me a lovely hard glasses case for my birthday. Voila I laid them in there with just strings hanging out, works perfectly.

Mine are just scrumpled up in my handbag. I needed to blow my nose the other day and didn't have a tissue, so a mask came in handy.
I must remember to put it in the wash..

@Thanksitsgotpockets

What I can't help wondering about the Manchester met thing is who made the decision to lock the students up? How many people involved thought it was a good thing to do? How many went along with it and did anyone speak up? How do they feel about it now. It's a huge mistake they made.

I've tried to stay away from conspiracy theories but I'm horrified that in this country, decision makers involved with the uni thought this was the right thing to do.

In how many other places could this be repeated?
When Handcock makes glib comments about students potentially not being able to go home for Christmas, he's rubber stamping ultra vires actions like this.

And why did it take so long for them to reverse the decision once people started to point out that they were unlawfully detaining these students.. Not to mention the distress and harm they were causing.

Sorry.. It's really bothered me and I need to get it off my chest.

This!! How was anyone with enough authority to authorise it so unaware that it is illegal to detain people like that?

And who did or did not speak up when the decision was made? I hope they have time for introspection. I would be ashamed.

It was a bit like that Aus outbreak in the tower blocks wasn't it, where they surrounded them with police. At the time I thought at least that wouldn't happen here. How wrong I was..

I ventured onto twitter earlier 😮. The lack of empathy for those poor kids in Manchester was unbelievable - people saying it served them right for going in the first place and now they knew what it felt like to be shielding ...🙄

In other news 2020 really is the year thAt keeps on giving ... all DH’s work dried up in March and he wasn’t eligible for any of the help packages (sole director of a limited company and no, we’re not rolling in it or avoiding taxes despite him paying himself in dividends). Very gradually enquiries have started to come through and he was supposed to be doing his first project in two weeks - just in the nick of time as we have one more month’s worth of expenses saved ... except ... he’s supposed to be going to Armenia which has just started a war with Azerbaijan and the country is now under martial law...

On top of that, our dog has damaged his tendon in a freak accident and will probably need surgery ... and we cancelled his insurance two months ago as his premiums had leaped up and were now much more than his average vet costs for the last couple of years... except we’re probably looking at a bill of £4-5,000

I want to run away and hide ...

I've been slogging away at uni work all day - to be honest, it's just a distraction from the real world which I think I need right now.

@Pleasedontdothat I saw that on twitter last night awful comments and completely wrong. The bad areas were bad long before the students came back. Glad it is illegal to lock them up. Scotland confirmed it as well today.

Pet bills are such a pain, in the old days before insurance these injuries did not cost anything like this.

Thanksitsgotpockets
Exactly. I want to know who and why they thought they had the right to do that?
I also want to know wtf the police were doing aiding illegal imprisonment? Dont they check thjs stuff first before glibly saying 'Oh yes we will send officers round to imprison innocent citizens" !
You can't get them to turn up for a reported crime yet they rush round to do something Illegal?
It's all fucked up.

They are getting some stick for the 'panicked' response in the press, it seems.

Whoo hoo work want staff to dress up during October for Halloween 😄
I don't have a costume these days but plenty make up and gothy accessories. Plus some grim stick on wound tattoos.😉 Better get practicing make up.

@Willow2017 Have returned from a shopping trip where I have bought these little beauties.

@SirSamuelVimes

Had a small victory today - got DD booked in for a block of swimming lessons. It's not for the full term as they are trying to give everyone a chance of some time in the pool, but I will take whatever I can get. She's going to be delighted. And I'm going to have to buy her a new swimsuit!

I've actually had to get the DSs new trunks too! They went from reusable swim that looked like trunks long enough, to age 5 to age 8. I have to buy for their little pelvises rather than any age or dimension.

When DS1 was doing school swimming a while back, some trunks turned up in the dryer, to be fair to DS, they were very easily muddled, but they looked huge .. they were actually the right age group. They were reunited with their owner the next time as I helped out anyway.

They seem to be spurting through pajamas too. I bought DS1 some age 9-10 as he will be 10 by Christmas... he's having to tuck the fluffy top into the bottoms to hitch them up
He likes age 4-5 as a capri style!

@TheOrchidKiller - need those fabulous glasses!

Think both my dcs have grown and will need new swimmers too, just had it confirmed I've got them into lessons again, but on different nights, at least I've got another week to order swimming cossies.

Still no results for dds covid test last Tuesday. At this rate the 10 days will be up and they'll be back to school anyway.

I got my winter jumpers down from the top cupboard will be packing away the summer skirts this evening, if the weather turns glorious tomorrow you know who to thank...

Re were the masks go, I've got a couple of disposable single use ones in the zippy bit in my bag that normally has spare sanitary towels in. (Fun fact about me - start of lockdown when there was no sanpro in the shops because the stockpillers had it all, I thought I'd do an inventory of how many I had and could I get through next period if shops didn't restock in time. Once I'd gone through all the handbags, evening clutch bags, side pockets of rucksacks, coat pockets, toiletries bag and suitcases for my various "just in case" ones, realised I had enough to get through 4 months. Obviously now I have collected them all in the bathroom, im going to keep getting caught out.)

I’m feeling quite positive that the locking university students up might become a bit of a turning point.
The press has turned against it anyway, which is important (remember how they were goading people at the start? The videos of the cyclists on Richmond Park? Trying to make people be outraged at something that, in retrospect, was not dangerous and actually a very normal, healthy thing to do... and so many of us went along with it too.)
Also the 10pm curfew - I wouldn’t be surprised if this gets quietly abandoned in a few weeks ...

Yes I keep reading headlines saying - 'government urged to review 10pm curfew' and wonder in which direction it is meant.

I was thinking today also about the start of all of this when Wuhan was locked down. I remember hearing about it on the news and discussing with DH how amazing it was that that could even be done and that it would be inconceivable here.. I’m sure I even joked about locking down London, not letting us leave. It was so hard to understand that they could even do that there, under their government, and laughable that it would be done here.

I don’t know when that was, early February? Do you think the government here knew by that point that we’d end up locked down too? Or do you think it seemed as crazy an idea to Boris as it did to the rest of us?

And when do you think they started talking about the unthinkable here?

It very much seemed like we did it because Italy did it. The whole time from mid to late Feb onwards it was “we are 2/3/4/5 weeks behind Italy”. Was Italy the first country to lockdown? And then maybe we did only do it because they did?

Ooh nice TheOrchidKiller

I can't wear anything like that over my specs though.
I do have chokers, lacy necklaces.
I just need to be able to squeeze into something like this

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(Fat chance!)

Stupid site wont let me post a photo properly or preview!

@Orangeblossom7777 One of the problems in the UK is housing. People crammed into tiny little flats. DH and i have a small one bedroom flat. The current issue of Private Eye talks about the fact that Sweden has more space and better housing.

I want a pair of those glasses too.

My anxiety is through the roof. I am supposed to meet friends at the pub tomorrow but the mask mandates are really scaring me. I have my lanyard and all that but I don't want to cause any trouble for my friends at all so I am not sure I should go at all.

I think DH is worried about my increasing reclusiveness but the outside world seems an increasingly hostile place. A dyspraxic autistic middle aged woman with a heart condition is worthless and deserving of scorn so why should I expose myself to that?

On a happy note, I ate my first tomato that I grew myself and DS lost his first front tooth so now he has a charming little lisp.

Just had a glance on the nursery website and have seen they've decided to make masks mandatory at drop off and pick up. You have to stop and stand 12ft from a gate which is where the nursery worker comes from to grab the child from you and then walks the child the rest of the path in the open air and I purposely never get closer than 2metres. All because cases are rising in the country but I dont want my 2.5yr olds memories of me be me waving her off with half my face covered unable to see me smiling!

@DisgruntledGuineaPig

Re were the masks go, I've got a couple of disposable single use ones in the zippy bit in my bag that normally has spare sanitary towels in. (Fun fact about me - start of lockdown when there was no sanpro in the shops because the stockpillers had it all, I thought I'd do an inventory of how many I had and could I get through next period if shops didn't restock in time. Once I'd gone through all the handbags, evening clutch bags, side pockets of rucksacks, coat pockets, toiletries bag and suitcases for my various "just in case" ones, realised I had enough to get through 4 months. Obviously now I have collected them all in the bathroom, im going to keep getting caught out.)

I'm glad it's not just me that has a massive collection of sanitary towels in "just in case" pockets etc!

@zigaziga

I’m feeling quite positive that the locking university students up might become a bit of a turning point. The press has turned against it anyway, which is important (remember how they were goading people at the start? The videos of the cyclists on Richmond Park? Trying to make people be outraged at something that, in retrospect, was not dangerous and actually a very normal, healthy thing to do... and so many of us went along with it too.) Also the 10pm curfew - I wouldn’t be surprised if this gets quietly abandoned in a few weeks ...

@zigaziga I agree. I work for one of the universities that has been in the press a lot with this. I think they (and the Scottish govt) wanted to appear really firm and hard line, to show their commitment to ‘saving lives,’ but it has backfired spectacularly. People are very angry and I’m glad our students are speaking to the media in droves about this.