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Just trying to live a meaningful life in an increasingly bizarre world in which nothing makes sense any more.

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I haven't got the app 1. I dont want it as its not specific enough.

1. My phone hasnt room to use it.

I agree wirh your DH Anxious. Our place is 30 feet long you could be there at the same time as someone positive but never even be within 30 feet of them never mind 2m for 15 mins. S.i. for absolutely no reason at all.
And symptoms are similar for many people when they have a grotty cold. Blocked nose affects sense of taste, asthma triggers a cough etc. Unless you have all symptoms and a temp/very hot to touch chances are its just a cold. Obviously if you are unsure or its new symptoms for you get a test but as 'Ed' says "Winter is comming" so coughs and colds will be rampant how many people are going to get tested every couple of weeks?

I see Handjob is pushing for mass vaccination of all school kids. Why? Kids have the best immune systems, are least affected by it. Give it to those who want it due to undying issues or preference. I do not want to live in a country that enforces injecting our kids an masse with a new rushed through vaccine 'just because we think we know best' I wouldn't trust that guys opinion on an apple never mind the effectiveness of a vaccine. He has proved he is lying and clueless about case numbers, death numbers and the test already.

@Orangeblossom7777

It was the bit about if you would normally send them in please do so, I mean I'd usually send them in unless really quite unwell and concerned, however I understand covid in children / teens tends to me quiet mild...so that confused me a bit.

Feeling more stressed and down than previously about all this what with the fines and app and everything. It all just seems to get more punitive and worrying.

I think, for me, the one thing that would stop me sending them in is a temperature with a cough that is unusual for that child. As a parent I think mostly we know what is a normal cold/virus for them. A morning cough wouldn't generally worry me.

An older child that liked school, I would also ask them about taste/smell but wouldn't rely on that if they didn't like school because it's a hard one to disprove. (For example if my son had said it, I would make him cook and eat a mushroom before I believed him as he can't stand them and can smell them cooking )

i wont download it unless work tell me i have to. They sent out an email saying you can download it here's how bla bla bla.... BUT PLEASE TURN IT OFF WHEN YOU GET TO WORK.

They explained that it doesn't work in a clinical environment because obviously it doesn't know you're wearing PPE, so please, please dont use it at work because essentially if one of us tests positive itll try and isolate us all when obviously we dont need to and thats the last thing the NHS needs.

I cant do Christmas yet - I have to go all out spook-tastic, mainly to piss off those who think the very idea of the same children who have been in the DCs bubbles at school knocking on my door in fancy dress and being given a fun sized choccie bar is akin to someone who's tested positive for covid going round licking everyone in the local old folks home.

Me too. Those Halloween threads are nuts! Going round the street with the friends you spend every day at school with is apparently akin to spreading the bubonic plague!

@TrustTheGeneGenie

i wont download it unless work tell me i have to. They sent out an email saying you can download it here's how bla bla bla.... BUT PLEASE TURN IT OFF WHEN YOU GET TO WORK.

They explained that it doesn't work in a clinical environment because obviously it doesn't know you're wearing PPE, so please, please dont use it at work because essentially if one of us tests positive itll try and isolate us all when obviously we dont need to and thats the last thing the NHS needs.

Remembering to turn it on and off would be such a pallaver. I forget to switch myself back to the WiFi from data when I get home far too often to trust myself to remember to turn an app on and off .

Remembering to turn it on and off would be such a pallaver. I forget to switch myself back to the WiFi from data when I get home far too often to trust myself to remember to turn an app on and off

me too. Crap at that kind of thing. Easier to just not have it.

I've had the NHS download the app email... it went into junk straight away. Fuck them fuck them all.

Uni VLE is running like an obese turd uphill on a treadmill already - and this is only induction week - god knows what it's going to be like by the middle of week 1

Gave up with sixth form college, DD back in school today, just where she really didn’t want to be.
Why are the schools so much more prepared than the colleges?

I forget to switch myself back to the WiFi from data when I get home far too often to trust myself to remember to turn an app on and off

Phew Just a reassuring I thought it was just me!

Stupid auto correct.."That's reassuring"

I downloaded the app, mainly to see if.there was a function to add the number under the bar code we got when we did DDs test to see if its registering as positive or negative, but there isn't. Apps still on my phone, with Bluetooth switched off and all permissions limited. Think I might just uninstall.

Dds result still isn't through- the test was last Tuesday.

My sister is a bit of a technophobe, her dh downloaded the app on her phone and we were having a chat about it. Not sure about her dh, but I know her daughter is completely over the top about the whole thing, driving my sister mad.
Anyway, I taught her how to uninstall it over the phone- go sis! Just don't tell the others. Lol

The only regular indoor features of my week are the swimming hokey cokey, supermarket late in the evening and a visit to McDonalds. DCs are dropped by the fire escape for Karate, waiting in the playground at school, fitness classes outside anyway. Brownies outside.

For all that I'm one of those evil, anarchic, super-spreading anti-dementors, my lifestyle is quite low risk and tends to be through organised channels that have adapted pretty well to reduce potential spread.

@BogRollBOGOF me too. I’m doing quite a lot of stuff but obediently mask wearing and complying with track and trace in restaurants and cafes. Happy to wash hands and keep a distance, but not stressed by people near me. I’m going to the gym and enjoying it, dutifully spraying and sanitising as i go 😃
And I’ve been to the pictures, and a musical evening outdoors.
I am not going to stop my (infrequent anyway) visits to my frail old dad though. Inhumane. He’s clear he would rather see me than “stay safe”. Seems fair.

OH been dementing today, refuses to download app is going to dig out old phone. On the other hand he saw two people in Lidl not wearing masks, when I told him it was not mandatory went off on one said I was wrong and he was in future going to challenge in the supermarket anyone not wearing a mask. Good luck with that I said the supermarket will throw you out.

This from a man who has shopped twice in Lidl this morning I still am waiting for him to wash his hands (rolls eyes)

Oh yeah, I'm hopefully seeing DM on Friday

I'm probably more likely to catch it off her, although I suspect she's already survived it. These tough octogenarians

Had one of those very sudden dry throats in Sainsburys this morning. The sort where the only cure is to either drink a gallon of water or to choke your brains out (even though coughing just makes it worse). Was scared of retribution if I did the violent coughing so I tried to repress it. Had flashbacks to junior school when the headmaster banned coughing in assembly after a particularly virulent virus.

Stood there next to the cauliflower, like a cat dislodging a fur ball, eyes streaming in sympathy. Then had to endure the runny nose, which stuck to the inside of the mask, & led to more coughing spasms.

Honestly, the sensible thing would have been to remove mask, cough into tissue, blow nose, replace mask & gel hands. But no, too embarrassed to cough in a public place now.

I’m not downloading the app. I’m just giving my name and phone number. I am going to have a flu jab, I old enough to have it for free, but I’m going to pay.
I’m feeling very anxious today, I’m scared they are going to lock us down harder.

@MissEWeatherwax I’m worried about that too. I’m trying hard to do everything I can just now, but am worried as I coped very badly last time.

Had a small victory today - got DD booked in for a block of swimming lessons. It's not for the full term as they are trying to give everyone a chance of some time in the pool, but I will take whatever I can get. She's going to be delighted. And I'm going to have to buy her a new swimsuit!

@TheOrchidKiller

Had one of those very sudden dry throats in Sainsburys this morning. The sort where the only cure is to either drink a gallon of water or to choke your brains out (even though coughing just makes it worse). Was scared of retribution if I did the violent coughing so I tried to repress it. Had flashbacks to junior school when the headmaster banned coughing in assembly after a particularly virulent virus.

Stood there next to the cauliflower, like a cat dislodging a fur ball, eyes streaming in sympathy. Then had to endure the runny nose, which stuck to the inside of the mask, & led to more coughing spasms.

Honestly, the sensible thing would have been to remove mask, cough into tissue, blow nose, replace mask & gel hands. But no, too embarrassed to cough in a public place now.

My sympathies Orchid, I remember having one of those attacks during a minutes silence at school. I've just about repressed the memories now!

@WouldBeGood , sorry you feel like that as well. I’m being good.I feel tense all the time, I’m decluttering to try and keep busy. I feel like I’m on the edge of a panic attack and when I don’t I just want to cry. I have cried so much this last two weeks. Sorry for being such a pessimistic.

What I can't help wondering about the Manchester met thing is who made the decision to lock the students up? How many people involved thought it was a good thing to do? How many went along with it and did anyone speak up? How do they feel about it now. It's a huge mistake they made.

I've tried to stay away from conspiracy theories but I'm horrified that in this country, decision makers involved with the uni thought this was the right thing to do.

In how many other places could this be repeated?
When Handcock makes glib comments about students potentially not being able to go home for Christmas, he's rubber stamping ultra vires actions like this.

And why did it take so long for them to reverse the decision once people started to point out that they were unlawfully detaining these students.. Not to mention the distress and harm they were causing.

Sorry.. It's really bothered me and I need to get it off my chest.

This thread’s good for those pessimistic days, @MissEWeatherwax. it helps even that other people worry!

Plus you get the good news of outings and things like kids’ swimming starting up 😊

Re: coughing and dry throat I buy those aniseed twists from an old fashioned sweet shop, they work really well. Halls menthol lyptus work too but I really do not like the taste. I keep them in a side pocket in my handbag.