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[RealityExistsInTheHumanMind]

Just trying to live a meaningful life in an increasingly bizarre world in which nothing makes sense any more.

Link to previous thread

I thought this sounded worth seeing- an MP had a massive rant about it all today, saying he thought Boris had been abducted by the scientists and raving about Project Fear...sounded quite something!

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/09/28/project-fear-tory-mp-silenced-commons-furious-rebuke-whitty/

"Politicians, bawled Sir Desmond, should stop being “in thrall to science”. As for Professor Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance, their televised statement the previous week “should have been a sacking offence”. In Sir Desmond’s eyes, it had been nothing but scaremongering.

“What was their purpose in presenting that graph [projecting 50,000 cases a day by mid October]?” he jeered. “It was the purpose of the fat boy in Pickwick Papers: ‘I wants to make yer flesh creep!’ It was Project Fear! It was an attempt to terrify the British people! As if they haven’t been terrified enough!”

MPs stared, agog. Frankly, some of them looked pretty terrified themselves.

On and on Sir Desmond raged. “Interfered in our private lives… Eye-watering costs… Crushing of enterprises… Destruction of livelihoods… And all as a consequence of an overreaction!”

At last the harangue reached its end. “There may be a virus one day that threatens our very way of life,” snapped Sir Desmond. “But this isn’t it! Even if we’re behaving as if it were!”

Saw that Orange what a legend. Wish more had his fire.

I have a drawer of washable pads. I'm definitely innocent of clearing the shelves of them in March, I haven't bought disposables in years!

The media has become increasingly critical in the last month or so and they do seem to be keeping it up which is good to see.

Opinion does seem to be creeping more to shades of grey rather than absolutes and mainly on the save lives at all costs line.

I was having a good browse of the GIS maps by locality. Quite a few blips in student areas. I'm not concerned about that at this stage. Hopefully it should pass through within a few weeks like the "freshers flu" with little lasting harm to that demographic and relatively contained away from the wider community.
Quite a few hotspots that were stronger shades of blue for a few weeks seem to have burned out. It does seem to have crept more evenly through the county at a sporadic level and into small towns away from the main core of the city.

@Orangeblossom7777

"Politicians, bawled Sir Desmond, should stop being “in thrall to science”. As for Professor Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance, their televised statement the previous week “should have been a sacking offence”. In Sir Desmond’s eyes, it had been nothing but scaremongering.

“What was their purpose in presenting that graph [projecting 50,000 cases a day by mid October]?” he jeered. “It was the purpose of the fat boy in Pickwick Papers: ‘I wants to make yer flesh creep!’ It was Project Fear! It was an attempt to terrify the British people! As if they haven’t been terrified enough!”

MPs stared, agog. Frankly, some of them looked pretty terrified themselves.

On and on Sir Desmond raged. “Interfered in our private lives… Eye-watering costs… Crushing of enterprises… Destruction of livelihoods… And all as a consequence of an overreaction!”

At last the harangue reached its end. “There may be a virus one day that threatens our very way of life,” snapped Sir Desmond. “But this isn’t it! Even if we’re behaving as if it were!”

Fantastic. It definitely feels like the tide is starting to turn.

@Taswama

Yes I keep reading headlines saying - 'government urged to review 10pm curfew' and wonder in which direction it is meant.

I happened to be walking through the local town just after 10pm this weekend. People were pouring obediently out of the pubs in groups and into the local supermarket, from where they emerged laden with boxes of beer and wine.

There was a cold wind so I doubt they were going to gather out of doors to keep on drinking.

@amicissimma

there is talk of supermarkets having to stop selling alcohol by 10pm too. They really can't see that people have had enough, are not going to stand for this and are taking matters into their own hands.

That was my first thought too Reality - so the next stop is to ban alcohol sales past 10 as well.

@Taswama

That was my first thought too Reality - so the next stop is to ban alcohol sales past 10 as well.

It was 10pm by the time I got home with the food shop on Saturday night.

In good news, it was a Saturday night out and there were no queues

Alcohol sales banned in Wales after 10pm at supermarkets, off licences etc. no-one has objected here. But we didn`t even have alcohol on a Sunday when I was young chapel was strong then. When it was sold in supermarkets there was a 10pm cut off until quite recently. I think Drakeford did it to stop people leaving pub and saying all back to my place bring a bottle hic.

People drinking to cope with the situation as well.

Checking in for some sanity.

I was sniggering at conspiracy theorists on a previous thread. Now I’m beginning to wonder if they have a point.

Things are beyond ridiculous now.

@Taswama

That was my first thought too Reality - so the next stop is to ban alcohol sales past 10 as well.

Great. So either the supermarkets have to re-arrange everything so that the alcohol is in an easily-closed-off section, or their staff will have to get into arguments with drunk customers.

Although I'm old enough to remember the days when pubs and 'off sales' all closed at 10.30 (or was it 11 - I obviously don't remember that well?) and, knowing nothing else, it didn't seem untoward.

I also remember my rels in NSW talking of the 'six o'clock swill' continuing in Victoria into the 1960s. I was intrigued.

It seems that if people are determined to drink, drink they will.

Back in the early 90s when supermarkets could only sell alcohol during licensing hours, they just blocked the aisles with big trolleys full of big stuff.

Just been watching a video our local health board put up about masks, how to put them on properly. What was interesting was removing, wash your hands first then remove but do not touch the front of it always hold by the loops between two fingers then wash or bin. Then wash your hands again. So chucking it back in my handbag to avoid littering is not a smart idea.

But where the heck do I put it when I am seated in a pub/restaurant because if I take it off I then have to go wash my hands in the loos, but oops I need to wear a mask to get up and go to the loo. Aiiiiggghhhh.......

@PickAChew

Back in the early 90s when supermarkets could only sell alcohol during licensing hours, they just blocked the aisles with big trolleys full of big stuff.

Yep we all coped then Just bought our alcohol earlier Me and dh still do Dead organised we are 🤣🍷 hic, burp, cheers

To be honest they were puking in the streets when the pubs closed at 10pm god only knows how bad they would be two hours later. No wonder A and E gets so busy here at weekends.

Seeing so many folk eating and drinking in London every night, where do they find that much disposable income to socialise so often.

Although I nearly had a panic attack from not being able to breathe properly through the fecking face rag on my face in the shop with only me and the staff in.
Twice now that’s happened.
Never had panic attacks before.
I don’t give a fuck about people bleating on about how oxygen levels are fine with face masks on.
Bollocks.
I know when I can’t fucking breathe properly!

OMG wetting myself laughing here. The new scare tactic, covid steals your testosterone and makes you impotent

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8781483/Is-men-badly-affected-Covid-19-Disease-depletes-testosterone-study-finds.html

@Justgivemewine

Although I nearly had a panic attack from not being able to breathe properly through the fecking face rag on my face in the shop with only me and the staff in. Twice now that’s happened. Never had panic attacks before. I don’t give a fuck about people bleating on about how oxygen levels are fine with face masks on. Bollocks. I know when I can’t fucking breathe properly!

You may naturally be a shallow breather which you would not have known about. @Justgivemewine. I know because I am one and am supposed to do exercises for it. I do when I remember.

I've had a couple of incidents of light headedness after more than half an hour in a mask. And my sinuses always stink the next morning. I'm really prone to sinus infections, anyhow but have stocks of Otrivine nasal spray to keep them fluid at any sign of problems.

I also have emergency sanitary towels everywhere despite having had precisely 3 periods in the past 27 months.

@justasking111

You have a good point there!
My MMA instructor has had to get me to do special deep breathing exercises on a few occasions when I’ve been out of breath and struggling.

@Justgivemewine ah well time to do those exercises again. Even in the car in the car park before you have to don the mask will help.

I absolutely had it with the mask today. My wee boy (who’ll be three this week) had pooed his nappy so I took him into the big family room at the shopping centre to change him. He was crying because he didn’t want his bum changed and because they pipe ‘relaxing’ music really loudly into the room. He was saying mummy take your mask off so I just thought fuck it, and I did. Gave him a kiss and got on with changing him. I can’t bloody see what I’m doing with it on anyway.

@PickAChew, lightheaded ness and emergency sanitary stuff everywhere. Are you me in disguise 🤔

@justasking111, thanks I will try that next time

Thank you ladies for bringing me back down to sanity. I’m off to bed now to sleep off the wine bought and drunk before 10pm 😁