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My son was out in the local small town yesterday, someone was wandering round, handing out masks and suggesting they walked up the road to get tested.

They said they had no symptoms and didn't need a test. 'That doesn't matter, they are testing anyone who wants one, why not go anyway and be reassured that you haven't got it'

'No thanks' they said, 'really not remotely worried;'

They were told they should be worried - My son said to me that if he had it he clearly had a mild version and spreading it about was a good thing, herd immunity and all that.

I know you have twins chocolates, can you get a break at all to yourself sometimes for a walk, it can help? (sorry if sounds annoying but I do understand what you mean, 2 year olds are relentless) Do they nap at all?

@chocolatesweets you are not a bad mum. (See my earlier comment about wanting my kids to move out!) I used to feel like you when mine were small & came back from GPs. We'd had a nice time, they'd been spoilt rotten, & within minutes it was back to the same old shit.

I don't know what to suggest. It was getting out & about that helped me, even just shoving them in the pusuchair in all weathers once a day. That's hard to do, but it's something.

Sounds like it drives some people into OCD doesn't it? I never thought about the contamination side of it, more of the checking and cleaning. But yes all this focus on not going out, could infect others...totally reinforces it. There was even some guilt tripping thing on BBC yesterday about this man who had not worn a mask and not been clean enough, gave the virus to his wife and she died (in USA) She had some underlying conditions, anyway it was very much saying it was his own fault. Pretty nasty really

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My son was out in the local small town yesterday, someone was wandering round, handing out masks and suggesting they walked up the road to get tested.

That sounds well-dodgy to me!

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I know you have twins chocolates, can you get a break at all to yourself sometimes for a walk, it can help? (sorry if sounds annoying but I do understand what you mean, 2 year olds are relentless) Do they nap at all?

No nap. I get time to myself sometimes. It's just the whole indoors thing day after day unless it's a walk we know very well because otherwise I can't let both out on my own. So boring and limiting. I think I'm just annoyed that the kids are missing out on so much. I'm not able to plug the gap. We used to go somewhere everyday. Enough activities and socialisation. It's just all shit and it's raining today. They're hopefully going to play school in a month or so that'll be good. Difficult to trust that it'll open until it's here though.

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My son was out in the local small town yesterday, someone was wandering round, handing out masks and suggesting they walked up the road to get tested.

That sounds well-dodgy to me!

There's definitely a testing station there, it's close to a factory that had most of the local cases. I heard there was hardly anyone getting tested so I doubt it's anything weird.

Son and partner are in their 40s too and don't look young, innocent or vulnerable.

@chocolatesweets, you are not a bad mum at all. Children are both adorable and relentless. And when your resources are taken away, it's even harder.

I asked DH why I was so exhausted all the time figuring he might suggest something about iron levels. Instead he gave me a face and explained that I had been looking after 3 children at home every day for 5 months.

💐to all of you coping with young dcs. I realised that it was only by getting out each day to groups, or to play with a friend or even the hell of soft play that I could keep sane. Must be bloody awful just now.

What do you do if you don't have transport? Will someone send a kit to you? I don't know. I've never seen this explained, other than if you think you've got it, get tested.

You can travel to a drive-through testing site, visit a mobile testing unit or get a home testing kit delivered.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51943612

So you can order home testing kits - but I think they are more delays there as they post it to you and then you have to get it back to them then wait for results.

gov.wales/apply-coronavirus-covid-19-test

Wales seems simlar you can order a home testing kit.

There was also talk of setting up walk in test centers -ones you actually walk to in large population areas at least in England - in winter months.

I seem to remember having two year old DC and mainly pushing them around in the buggy for hours till they would go to sleep and I could stop and rest- must be much harder with two and with all this rubbish going on. and the weather too. Counting down the days till they could start nursery...not easy at all, be kind to yourself

Fingers crossed for the play school.

💐 for those dealing with small kids on top of all this crap. Must be exhausting. Kids are tiring at the best of times but no breaks is relentless.

Cut yourselves some slack you are doing great in a ridiculous situation.

Still raining here and blowing a gale. Glad my 2 can amuse themselves these days😄 i am bored to tears never mind kids!

I won't be rushing for testing either. We have one pop up in the car park in town regularly haven't ever seen people queueing up at it🤣

I think half the milage in my car during the toddler years was from driving in loops around the local countryside to get the buggers off to sleep.

Anyone going through this with pre-schoolers and no respite needs a very big, very shiny medal.

It's never been normal behaviour to be isolated with small children on your own without any social network.

We have had some more cases in the small towns nearby and online they are being mean to the people there in the commons, shaming them etc. Where is the kindness? I am starting to feel better to keep away from people if this is how they can be. Having to remind myself most people are kind.

According to the local public health officer here we are all doomed when the students come back. Cases will rise. (Yes, probably, as will flu & norovirus, it's winter).

However, even though the studenty areas around the city are quiet now, the students who study elsewhere have been back home since March. For the past few weeks they've been going out to pubs & restaurants with family, & having BBQs with each other. Some were doing it pre-lifting of restrictions. May be not all in massive groups, but it has been going on, & it's not rocket science to work out that they probably aren't too hot on SD after a few drinks.

The recent cases have been traced to food factories. Not to the areas where 18-22 year olds have moved back in with parents.

There's a fair bit of student-bashing here (never mind that they are a huge part of the local economy). I reckon they will become the next "disease-riddled vectors" once schools are back.

It really bothers me how people can't look at people as other than walking plague bearers. I try to smile at people and not treat them like that.

Could MOUTHWASH cut the spread of Covid-19? Scientists to study whether gargling Dentyl will destroy the virus after promising results

They mentioned ethanol, so imo we all need to buy vodka and gargle with that. My radox hand gel knocks your socks off DS said it is a jellied vodka.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8661743/Study-mouthwash-reduce-spread-Covid-19.html

Oh bloody hell there will be panic buying of mouthwash next and shop workers being abused because there's none left!!

I saw some study about salt water gargle being trialled as it can help with colds, not sure what the result was. Of the nose and throat. Sounds pleasant.

Times online now saying Boris is doing a U turn on masks in secondary and that the plan B is rotas for secondaries in high covid areas if that happens.

Also Nicola is now saying children don't need tested for just cold symptoms but it is high temp, cough etc.

Could gargle with wine or gin perhaps. We've some of that (more since lockdown to be fair)

I've got quite bad contamination OCD but it relates more to toxic substances than germs. Nevertheless, the start of lockdown nearly sent it into overdrive, and I was changing clothes after being out if someone even breathed near me, freaking out if DH touched something in the supermarket and then touched his pockets, that kind of thing.
It very nearly made me a great deal more ill than I already am.

I somehow managed to remind myself to stick to the things I'm actually scared of and that germs isn't one of them, because if I add germs to my OCD fears I'm fucked, honestly. It's bad enough that I have panic attacks when the council put down weed spray on the pavement, and that I can't travel without lugging a sodding air purifier with me.

I really would like help with the OCD but I suspect it's pointless trying to get the ball rolling at present.

The whole paranoia and washing shopping thing made me feel hugely and unhealthily validated. I honestly can't see how people haven't been tipped into OCD or had their conditions greatly worsened.

The OCD thing is a very valid point. I've never suffered from it but this whole cleaning of everything to get rid of germs is a slippery slope. I'm totally rational so I can see that I'm touching the sanitizer that everyone else has touched, I can see how easy it is to miss cleaning something or to clean something and then wonder what to do next because I could be contaminated. It reminds me of the scene in the league of gentlemen where they clean the brushes with the brushes, I've always wondered where it would end. Just before lockdown I questioned it at work, we had to clean the salt and pepper pots after each person had touched them but we also had to touch them to clean them and put them back. If we touched a table or a chair that was also contaminated. Makes my head hurt nevermind someone who genuinely has fears about these kinds of things.

I don't believe in being too clean, we need a healthy amount of exposure to things to keep our immune system working.

My Ds has been to a birthday party. Should have been outside but the storm put pay to that so it was inside. They played party games, their was cake and candles blown out. It was two hours of normality . Happy children, who are all starting foundation together in a couple of weeks.

On my local news people were talking about schools not being safe till Christmas! The reporter said there were currently 9 cases of covid locally, but no too dangerous. Don't know what these people are doing, are they keeping DC in and not letting them mix at all?
Lockdown had a massive impact on my dd mental health and emotionally. She thrives on order and routines and reassurance from trusted adults. All this was taken away from her. We had screaming, punching, kicking and a very angry child. I faught for her to go back to school. She went back for the last 2 weeks , after one day back she was a different child. She so needs to be in school. I am counting down the days till the end of the holidays!

I'm desperate for the holidays to end, mainly to get the media shutting up about the schools going back! It's driving me mad the way they're chewing it over and chewing it over and the relentless disutopian imagery of masked children looking isolated.

FFS, it's not many months since people were up in arms stating that isolation booths as the final stage of discipline before exclusion was child abuse... oh the irony.