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Phew!

Just another example of poor design...I wonder if may be an increase in distant learning like open university perhaps

Anyway off to the swimming pool today for this training day. Hope it is not too dementory. Supposed to go with a cossie on but otherwise can get changed etc, hmm. Will have a look at the mask situation here as well.

Morning, all, great thread title

Just back from supermarket trip. Sainsburys didn't seem to be enforcing, but then it was practically empty compared to every other week I've been at this time on a Friday. They were still playing their automated messages about it bring, "an exceptionally busy time", despite the almost empty shop! Lidl carpark very sparce so suspect that was virtually empty too. Usually hardly anyone mask wears in Lidl so can't believe it's a coincidence today.

@LivinLaVidaLoki, your DH sounds ace. Obviously, I wasn't the woman he spoke up for but it helps to know that some people will speak up so tell him thanks.

Wales Coronavirus: Almost 40% did not attend reopened schools

in the first week, 37.1% of pupils invited to attend did not go, rising slightly to 38.7% in the second week and again to 41.5% in the third.

I am surprised it was so low a figure - though it was just three mornings in the end for mine - and extra leaving session for youngest Y6.

look at how Sweden flattened the curve. BBC still dementing a bit though

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53498133

Littleswede might be interested

I remember Stirling topping the league for student suicides when I applied generations ago.

Can you just imagine freshers week from the confines of your cell? 😒 although from what those in the know - I.e., those who actually OWN teens - they’re paying lip-service to the roolz then going off and doing what they want to do anyway. Good on them!

Other parallels with Argentina = Naomi klein’s “the shock doctrine”. Don’t think they engaged in public shaming (cf orange’s “the choice” for SHAME BOXES(!)) - but it was a “shock” event which benefitted few.

and Holland's chart looks similar. - they are having some more cases but have started testing more recently. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/

[quote ISaySteadyOn]@LivinLaVidaLoki, your DH sounds ace. Obviously, I wasn't the woman he spoke up for but it helps to know that some people will speak up so tell him thanks.[/quote]
It was a fab thing he did indeed! It does however make me sad knowing that had I stepped in on this woman’s behalf - me a fat invisible middle-aged woman - we’d both have been told off. A 6’5” man not.

From that Sweeden BBC link:

There's been less disruption for the generation now growing up - in terms of learning. That may produce benefits further down the line when [they start] entering the labour force
Karolina Ekholm
Professor of Economics at Stockholm University

I think it will be years before the best approach become clear but their economy has contracted less and they've apparently avoided long term impact on education - even BBC is admitting that.

Loki your Dh is fab. Good for him.

And sadly I think if it had been a woman the response may have been different. But we need to challenge this crap anyway if we see it. Become un-invisible!

It is interesting that Sweden has been testing more and getting more positives but the deaths are falling, and same in Holland.

See here- the rates rise but deaths fall...www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

More here on shops and masks, just for info...

Sainsbury's and Costa Coffee said their staff would not challenge customers who entered their stores without masks, while Asda said enforcement was the "responsibility of the relevant authorities".

But Waitrose will have staff at the entrance reminding customers of the rule, and Tesco will be selling face coverings at shop entrances.
Greggs and McDonalds said takeaway customers needed to wear masks.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53522129

The school time lost because of the pandemic could harm the UK economy for the next 65 years, research published by the Royal Society suggests.

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That’s interesting @Orangeblossom78. My son had live timetables throughout last term and in some subjects they were ahead of where the teacher had planned if they had been in school as normal. Obviously not all schools offered this, but most pupils would have had some remote learning, which they would not have done if schools had been on strike (as they were in Argentina in that article)

Our local Waitrose has a security person on the door monitoring the queue so I assume they will also remind people about masks

Obviously not all schools offered this, but most pupils would have had some remote learning, which they would not have done if schools had been on strike (as they were in Argentina in that article)

They were looking at middle age earnings as well so they wouldn't have had access to the wealth of learning resources on line that there is today.

Though British pupils 'struggled to continue learning at home'

Perhaps surprisingly, the research found under one in 10 parents complained about lack of devices to work on, although this rate doubled for single-parent households.

Providing laptops for disadvantaged children has been a focus of England's government.

But Layla Moran, Liberal Democrat education spokesman said the figures still suggested 450,000 young people were struggling to learn due to a lack of technology at home.

She said: "These damning figures show thousands of children have struggled to learn from home during lockdown due to a lack of devices.

So it's another wealth access inequality problem on top of school in "poor areas" often provided less work which we experienced.

Our local primaries printed off worksheets etc for families without technology. They are now looking to try and find funding to ensure all pupils have access to a laptop in case blended learning is necessary in the coming months with possibility of year bubbles having to self isolate.

I would have serious worries for new undergraduates, both mental health and physical health with these rules. Going to uni for the first time can be very odd and it's critical you're given the opportunity to make friends. The number of suicides and deaths from meningitis etc were worrying enough. It's another example of 'only covid matters'

@LivinLaVidaLoki well done to your DH. It gives me the courage to do the same, albeit that I don't intend to go anywhere near any shops. I am ok with wearing some kind of token face covering but I will endeavour to stand up for anyone who isn't, for any reason, choice or medical need.

I am very very disturbed by how generally people are clamouring for special badges/lanyards for those that are exempt. It is so so dangerous, did noone go to school and learn 1930s history??? How about we all just get taught to have respect and compassion for others, achieves the same result.

Ffs. So my lovely country house park thing has now put in track and trace for the bird garden even though you are outside the whole time! Apart from the ten seconds where you have to exit through through the gift shop, which you now have to wear a mask for.

Wales - apparently 40% of children did not go into school the last three weeks of term. Well no shit sherlock. My GS had an hour a week for the last three weeks. One DIL would have had to get three kids screaming and kicking into the car to deliver one child to reception, drive around for an hour and return to pick up said child. I imagine that was mirrored across Wales so not so much due to scared parents. The other DIL lives close so took GS but the younger one had a melt down because he could not go into the adjoining nursery.

Exactly, same situation here. I was offered an hour for DD. As if I'm going to walk to school, hang around for an hour, walk back - I'm spinning enough plates trying to work with the kids around, let alone with a round trip to school for an hour thrown into the mix

Just been to the garage shop for a lunchtime sandwich and decided to test out the muzzle for the whole 2.5 minutes that I was in there! It was not pleasant and having to wear one will definitely be affecting my decision whether to actually use a shop or go online. My eldest son (24) claims he wll never wear one and only go to Sainsburys who aren't enforcing it - wonder how long it will be before he gets clobbered by a Mask Stazi?! part of me wants to see what happens as he's very stubborn and too arrogant for my liking takes after his dad of course.

I've probably gone into the stats as evidence that 'parents don't believe it's safe' or some other garbage now though

I have got myself a sunflower lanyard with a mask exempt card, I have so far used it at Specsavers (who were requesting face coverings before today) , Lloyds Pharmacy and Sainsburys without a problem. I have asthma which is normally well controlled, but I find I can only wear a mask if I sit still in it, as soon as I move it feels as though I am suffocating.

I agree with PP that having to mark yourself out as disabled or vulnerable with lanyards or badges is something we have seen before and not something we should be going back to. I am not a confrontational person though, and so far it has avoided me being questioned or challenged ☹️

Sainsburys was a lot quieter today and they made an announcement about face coverings and then immediately followed it with a reminder about courtesy to those who can’t wear them. I think I will stick to going there if I can’t get an online delivery slot.