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ADs, Corvids and the sequacious masses

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Mascotte · 13/07/2020 22:34

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BogRollBOGOF · 16/07/2020 21:39

@BakewellTarts

Does anyone know when Boris is on tomorrow? Is it a reprise of the Daily Sadly Death Show so 5pm? I might try to catch what he has to say.

Patrick Vallence is a professional pessimist. I don't necessarily disagree that a vaccine won't give 100% protection but partial is still a huge step forward when coupled with other treatments. The flu vaccine isn't 100% effective either and needs to be regularly renewed. If covid is similar then fine.

This is what pisses me off with the "this isn't the flu!" fuore. We can get up to 50,000 flu related deaths per year, despite it being a long term virus that we've lived with since forever AND we have annual flu vaccines for the most vulnerable (plus a risk of post-viral fatigue) Yet we live with that risk as normal. There's even a huge overlap in vulnerable population. Sounds reasonably comparible to me.

It just makes my head want to explode from logic break down.

torydeathdrug · 16/07/2020 21:40

I thought that this would amuse (!) you all ... basically as things stand at the moment, the way we report covid deaths everyone who has ever tested positive for CV will be reported as a Sadly Daily when they eventually die. You could have had it in April, fully recovered then get hit by a meteor next August & you would be included as a 'sadly died with covid' statistic. Utterly utterly mental.

There is no way of recovering someone from covid (taking you off the "had a positive covid swab" list) in this country - if you have ever had it you will die with it ... even if you don't die for 1/5/10/50 years!

www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/

MovingtoCardiff · 16/07/2020 21:42

I actually iron most things (turning into my mother Grin) but won't be ironing any masks. I do my supermarket shop online so I'm hoping I'll barely need to use it.

That committee appearance from PV was bizarre in my view. Surely Boris must be a bit pissed off with him saying people should keep WFH?

BakewellTarts · 16/07/2020 21:42

That is so bonkers! I once had flu. And Glandualr fever. Will I have sadly died of those too when I hopefully in the far distant future die?

BakewellTarts · 16/07/2020 21:44

Altyhough obviously as not covid these couldn't cause a sad death!

BogRollBOGOF · 16/07/2020 21:45

@countrygirl99

There's a support group for people dealing with dementia at work, usually there's monthly meeting with tea and biccies but now it's a dial in. I haven't joined in since working from home due to diary clashes but did today. I was a bit worried it would be full of people like Hearhooves. I needn't have worried, it wasn't and was really practical and supportive but god some people are going through some real shit made far worse by by lockdown. One poor woman is trying to help her very reluctant mum choose a desperately needed care home for her dad and they can only do virtual visits.
On a parallel theme, late September is open evening system for secondaries. That's going to screw a lot of upcoming y6s for getting the feel of a school. I doubt they'll be business as usual. This needs more thought than a lockdown policy!

I was hoping to go round for DS1 this year. He'll be year 5, but with his SNs we need to think carefully about where is best to nurture him, and our local school does not have the best reputation. It's not a read an OFSTED report, back of a fag packet decision.

BakewellTarts · 16/07/2020 21:46

@BogRollBOGOF yes me too. And I had post viral symptoms from Glandular Fever for at least a year.

BakewellTarts · 16/07/2020 21:49

I have no idea how open evenings for secondaries will work this year. The girls school is so packed usually that there are 3 seperate Head Teachers talks to 100+ people each time. Its manic and exhausting. I'm not really sure if it's the best way to view / decide on a school. A smaller visit during school hours would be better I think but god knows if that will be allowed either.

TheOrchidKiller · 16/07/2020 21:52

DS is going to do virtual tours of universities. He hasn't a clue where to go. Looking at a flashy campus video is really going to help.

justasking111 · 16/07/2020 21:53

Ironing a mask, umm. my tumble dryer gets super hot. As does my car when I leave the mask in it, shoved in just in case. I did ages ago buy a pack of 50 disposable ones, not pc. but Greta Thunberg can do one if she nags me about the environment.

IAintentDead · 16/07/2020 22:02

@Thisdressneedspockets

1 in 5,000 now according to the ons.
And the majority at least some of them will be feeling crap at home.

OR

If they are all out there and asymptomatic then there is even less need to worry about catching it.

InsaneInTheViralMembrane · 16/07/2020 22:12

1 in 17,000 here in Scotland! We probably ought burn some shit down to stay safe.

Had a chat with the practice nurse today who said she’s just not seeing or hearing of any cases locally... and that yeh, old people do have a tendency to die when they’re sick.

Had a massive, silly water fight with my neighbour tonight.

She’s back at work now (barber) and is loving it. People are happy and tipping VERY well. She is making everyone mask up - although she doesn’t have to, but with track and trace she doesn’t want shut down!

InsaneInTheViralMembrane · 16/07/2020 22:13

Far too many exclamation marks and I used mask as a verb. 🦠

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 16/07/2020 22:14

@BlackberryViolet where'd you get your t shirts?

AnxiousElephant77 · 16/07/2020 22:16

That’s so interesting, I tipped mine a tenner because I was just so grateful 😂

Pleasedontdothat · 16/07/2020 22:26

If you needed another example of how the NHS has become the National Covid Service ... my BIL has been unwell since late February - cough, fever, losing weight, generally feeling utterly crap. He’s been going backwards and forwards to the GP (although didn’t actually managed to see them face to face) and has been sent to A&E several times. All the doctors he’d seen told him it was almost certainly Covid - and the negative Covid tests didn’t actually mean he hadn’t had it ... and basically he just had to suck it up cos he wasn’t Sadly Dead ...

He ended up in A&E again after his GP decided his latest blood tests were rather alarming and this time he finally saw a consultant who didn’t automatically assume it was Covid/related ... turns out he’s got a rate auto-immune condition, not an infection,absolutely nothing to do with Covid and relatively easily-treated with the right medication.

If the NHS had actually been functional for the last few months, it almost certainly wouldn’t have taken so long to work out what was wrong ...

torydeathdrug · 16/07/2020 22:27

dd got £35 last night - that's (way) more than she gets in a week usually (though some wanker also left her 2 euros). I tipped my earring guy £10 ... just because it was so good to actually talk (irl) to another (different! new!) human being.

LizzyButton · 16/07/2020 22:38

Friend went to reopened coffee place for 2nd time. They had tightened up and wanted details for track, trace, disembowel. She said no and walked away with visored worker running after her begging her to return.

I popped in to supermarket briefly. Security guy was greeting everyone as they went in. 1 in 20 - 30 masked? It will change.

ProfessorRadcliffeEmerson · 16/07/2020 22:46

@AnxiousElephant77

That’s so interesting, I tipped mine a tenner because I was just so grateful 😂
I tipped mine a tenner because I felt guilty: the experience of having my hair cut wearing a mask was so horrible that I won't be going back for ages, and I normally have it done every 5-6 weeks.
BlackberryViolet · 16/07/2020 22:52

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

From here
discworld.com/products/t-shirts/

But they don’t seem to have Granny anymore but I’ve had it rather a long time. I also have Death with kitten. Also used Discworld Emporium in the past

fartingsparkles · 16/07/2020 22:56

@ Bogroll dc1 is going into yr5 too. He's a quiet type and needs a fair bit of gentle groundwork to make decisions so I was hoping to nosey at secondaries too. Hoping there will be something sorted. We're 11+ here so looking ahead to that too

AgentCooper · 16/07/2020 23:02

@Orangeblossom78

I read today that women are a hundred percent more likely to have lost a job than men, and a quarter of women have had an anxiety attack in recent weeks in the UK. Doesn't surprise me.
@Orangeblossom78 I can believe that. I feel like a broken record but I’ve had the worst, most enduring anxiety since I had PND on mat leave. It’s hard to remember sometimes that I don’t always feel so bad. I tried wfh for 5 weeks but it was impossible with my toddler and not fair on him. DH is by far the higher earner (10 years older than me, never took mat leave, full time while I’m part time etc) so it just made sense for him to be able to wfh full time. It feels like such a slap in the face to have to time my fucking pee breaks around his Zoom calls. And I’m peeing a lot right now due to the anxiety! I’m furloughed so lucky to still be employed but my old life feels very distant.

My lovely friend has just been made redundant. On mat leave. It’s fucking horrible.

PinkFondantFancy · 16/07/2020 23:02

@BlackberryViolet I have the same one! I luffs it Grin I'm planning to wear it with sunglasses and people watch

@Pleasedontdothat that's so upsetting about your relative

@Nihiloxica are you ok? Haven't seen you for a while?

I am genuinely LOL at the idea of ironing a mask. They are on another planet. It'll dry on the washing line and I expect the UV will do the job nicely.

Allflightscancelled · 16/07/2020 23:05

orchidkiller I know. I'm encouraging DD to defer. I don't think it's worth risking making the wrong decision, and then paying all that money for a sub optimal experience? Nah!!! I'm cutting my nose off a bit as I work in the sector but for me, it's possibly not worth applying this year. Up to DD of course.

Allflightscancelled · 16/07/2020 23:06

orchidkiller I know. I'm encouraging DD to defer. I don't think it's worth risking making the wrong decision, and then paying all that money for a sub optimal experience? Nah!!! I'm cutting my nose off a bit as I work in the sector but for me, it's possibly not worth applying this year. Up to DD of course.