Amber Heard & Johnny Depp....Your thoughts?

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I have seen this in the news over the past couple of days and wasn't really sure what to think. It sounds to me like a very volatile relationship and it may be that they are both abusers. Or at the least they are completely incompatible with each other.

Today I noticed that Amber Heard was walking into court and she had a scarf around her face. Then she removed the scarf and smiled for everyone and waved and seemed to enjoy the cameras being there. It's just an observation but maybe the accusations of her being a narcissist could be accurate? Or is she maybe trying to put a brave face on it all under what must be a very stressful situation for all concerned?

Johnny Depp kept his mask on but was also waving for the cameras I should add.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's none of my business really, it was just something I had thought about after seeing the news today and wondered what others thought!

Windyjuly I have the articles saved to my laptop, but I googled and all the old interviews have been removed from Google. I wrote up a whole page of Depp's most disturbing quotes with links and with the name and issue number of the magazines the quotes were from, and those posts have been deleted too.

The quote about "look of fear" was from GQ magazine, 1999, after he was arrested and jailed for hitting a paparazzo with a plank of wood. The full quote is this:
“going to jail was worth it to see the look of fear in the little maggot’s eyes.”

The quote about how he has "hillbilly rages" during which he "bites people" I cannot find in full, but I did find a different quote he gave while he was with Paradis saying that paparazzo should stay away from him otherwise: "if I'm able to get my hands on you I'll swallow your nose. I'd bite your nose off and swallow it."

The quotes about how good Paradise is at "managing" his rages and "talking me down off the ledge" were in multiple magazine interviews he gave during their relationship.

Today 20:52 ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal

She looks like she's soaking up the attention arriving at court. Why is she even there?

If a woman was forced to face her alleged abuser in this way there would be outcry! There is literally no reason for her to be there until she is called to give evidence! She has either chosen to be there to gain attention or to attempt to intimidate JD when giving his evidence. Either way, it’s not on!

narrowboatgirl

The police officer was Officer Beverly Leonard. A lesbian.

She may be an abuser, but he is an addicted person with violent tendencies and a past which documents that. That is still not an excuse for her to have hit him. Which she admitted on the tape. I believe he may have hit her but will never admit to it. This is why I maintain they are both to blame at some level and this case will never end well for anyone except sales of the Sun.

I believe him.

Johnny Depp’s lawyers will have given him advice on whether he has a strong case or not (and I’m not a defamation lawyer or familiar enough with this case so have no idea if he does). That advice is private. Even if they told him it was a bad idea, if he chose to ignore that advice and wanted to proceed there is nothing improper about his solicitors doing so on his behalf, and the barrister would have been ethically obliged to do so.

Interesting. I had that completely backwards then. Thanks @NewarkShark

@Windyjuly

This thread is getting a bit tiresome. Can we stop the in fighting.

Re the films, possible, have you seen his older stuff? He is a very good actor.

I have seen his movies. Minus his PR machinery, I do believe his work isn’t outstanding enough for him to keep landing roles. We do have a huge ageism problem in Hollywood, don’t we? He is part of that problem, not part of the solution.

Narrowboat
Exactly. It’s vobvious from day one that his PR machine is working 24 hours on this.

I believe his acting abilities is not a subject of trial? And of course, that is so objective.

What did/does Ms Heard do/

possiblepickle

I suspect that his leading man days were coming to an end, but he would have been picked picked for the weird old man roles and he may still be picked for those roles.

@mbosnz

I believe his acting abilities is not a subject of trial? And of course, that is so objective.

What did/does Ms Heard do/

We are not discussing the trial. I am highlighting how men like him are part of the patriarchy that is rampant in Hollywood still.

The recording of their conversations that were circulated on Twitter after being lodged with the US court pretty clearly pointed to Amber being the physically abusive one.

The recording of their conversations that were circulated on Twitter after being lodged with the US court pretty clearly pointed to Amber being the physically abusive one.

What I find fascinating is that by his own admissions in the last few days, he has let his DD take hash and he has slammed doors repeatedly and attacked/trashed a couch.
Yet he was upset AH questioned his parenting and he doesn't think he's abusive.
Stand in a room whilst an angry drunk/high man rages, slams doors round about you and/or destroys furniture - it's threatening and abusive behaviour. And he can't even see that.

@possiblepickle I HAVE READ THE FULL THREAD

I posted on page 1.He has never been accused of abuse.Amber on the other hand has.
She was seen in the lift bringing Elon Musk back to the apartment she shared with Depp.She had an affair with him.

You really are on the side of the women who abuses her partners both male and female.

Im glad he has the balls to bring this to court,Dan Wooten has to be held accountable for writing trash.

@FrippEnos

possiblepickle

I suspect that his leading man days were coming to an end, but he would have been picked picked for the weird old man roles and he may still be picked for those roles.

I hope to god we see the back of him now! Hollywood badly needs fresh blood and fresh ideas.

Ms heard is an actress.

She initially said he went after her like crazy.
He is now saying it was her who flattered him.

FrippEnos The "homophobic" comment came from Amber's ex, not Amber herself.Her exact statement: "I recount hints of misogynistic attitudes toward us, which later appeared to be homophobic when they found out we were domestic partners and not just ‘friends.'” She didn't accuse the police of being homophobic, just said they displayed "hints" of misogyny which she interpreted as possibly being homophobic. Gay people can be homophobic, and she's perfectly entitled to her own opinion. And don't forget the "lesbian police officer" sold the story to a tabloid, which is pretty unethical behaviour!

The bottom line is that Amber's ex-wife insists that Amber never laid a finger on her and Amber was never charged. How many assault charges has Johnny Depp had in his life?

rayoflightboy
Nope you haven’t. So please stop shouting and go read again.

How the other half live! I've been quite fascinated by all of this.

It seems an awful relationship from early doors, the kind most people would end quickly, not progress to marriage or a marriage of that period. Especially as they are both people of means and status although obviously to varying degrees.

In many ways I think they're both as bad as each other and the details of their arguments make me think that I'd describe any physical violence between them as fighting as opposed to abuse.

I wouldn't have described myself as a Depp fan but liked some of his work. However, after reading him describe why they got together as her being beautiful and interested in him I really do think how pathetic. He wanted a young trophy wife and rightly or wrongly got a lot more than he bargained for.

Any why is Kate Moss not testifying. It’s her I want to hear from, not the sensible women he dated who he probably hid his worst behaviours from anyway.

In fairness, how he was decades ago doesn’t really have any bearing on how he is now. I also don’t think Kate Moss tends to do interviews in general and perhaps that extends to supporting ex-boyfriends. Certainly he had police involved when he trashed a hotel room with her in it, although in court he said she was asleep and slept through all of it - a lot of drunk or drugs would enable you to sleep through something like that, so I can believe that is true. Mighty risky to lie about it if it isn’t.

I’ve met Johnny. He spent a lot of time making a lot of children (and their parents) very happy during visits to GOSH. It’s difficult to reconcile him with the person described in court. Neither he nor Amber come across at all well. Without a doubt Amber is an abuser and was in a toxic relationship but Johnny’s texts were vile and his addictions probably mean he had no recollection of what he did.

On the upside for us normal folk you couldn't have a clearer example of money, fame, success and beauty not being the route to happiness...

How many assault charges has Johnny Depp had in his life?

I wasn’t aware he had had any. Damaging property yes, but not actual assault charges. When were they? Was he convicted?

I think this case is very damaging for people in abusive relationships because it is showing time and again that people don't understand the dynamics of abuse. They don't understand threatening behaviour. They don't understand coercive control. They also don't understand living with an addict.

@wheresmymojo

On the upside for us normal folk you couldn't have a clearer example of money, fame, success and beauty not being the route to happiness...

But that depends on what makes you happy. If staying in limelight massages your ego, and you do have millions to throw at it, why not?