Amber Heard & Johnny Depp....Your thoughts?

[Whatdoyouthinkaboutthisone]

I have seen this in the news over the past couple of days and wasn't really sure what to think. It sounds to me like a very volatile relationship and it may be that they are both abusers. Or at the least they are completely incompatible with each other.

Today I noticed that Amber Heard was walking into court and she had a scarf around her face. Then she removed the scarf and smiled for everyone and waved and seemed to enjoy the cameras being there. It's just an observation but maybe the accusations of her being a narcissist could be accurate? Or is she maybe trying to put a brave face on it all under what must be a very stressful situation for all concerned?

Johnny Depp kept his mask on but was also waving for the cameras I should add.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's none of my business really, it was just something I had thought about after seeing the news today and wondered what others thought!

It's not just about continuing employment with him, it's about continuing employment anywhere in Hollywood. Noo doubt these staff members are all accustomed to certain perks. Everyone knows that if you piss off a star iin Hollywood you have pretty much stuffed all your chances
Clearly his team procure drugs for him. Knowing what we know about so called A listers, there's little doubt that police would have turned a blind eye to the shenanigans too, the same way they do with dodgy pubs, brothels etc over here and have always done. Everyone has their price and ii think people have a lot more to lose by crossing depp than heard.
She's not anywhere near the same level of stardom as he is, therefore won't have the same clout and influence when it comes to ruining someone's future chances of employment.
She's already losing friends who were going to speak for her in court.

Also VP is the mother of his children. She risks losing the love/ respect of her kids if she goes to court annd slates their dad. After what we've seen and heard, there's no way depp suddenly developed these behaviours in the last few years with AH

Even Depp acknowledges his drink and drug problems started as a child. Quite why he wanted to repeat the cycle with his daughter...

I still have no idea what to make of this in terms of who was the worst out of this sordid pairing - the photos AH has taken of him by themselves are cruel in the extreme. Why didn’t they split up before? When you get to the point you have no respect left...

One thing to come out of this for me is: just because something looks pretty on the outside doesn’t mean it can’t be completely rotten on the inside. All those glossy photos of them at premieres and awards ceremonies and their fancy Bahamas wedding. All of it was crawling with maggots underneath the shiny pretty exterior. Just like Facebook only shows edited highlights I think this really has exposed the fact that what we see in the media is often a complete and utter charade. I look at them and think bloody hell, I’ve had some blistering rows with my husband but compared to them we are fcking Romeo and Juliet!

callard I agree with the weed & daughter

I agree. I have addict parents and I have also had some awful substance misuse issues. I have been in many states and to think someone might have photographed them makes me feel anxious.
My very first drugs experience was at a party.
Aged 8.
The story goes that nobody wanted to take me to hospital hfor fear of incriminating themselves in drug use.
So this party of drug users(in the 70s) made sure I was 'ok' whilst still partying and thry didn't send me to bed, instead they watched me deal with the consequences and had anecdotes based on my strange behaviour.
Incidentally guess who was present when I was first experimenting with hard drugs as a teen and guess who got me to supply their drugs including posting them round the country? Yup. My father.
Who was once a cool and handsome musician dude who could get any woman.
I remember doing acid with him and him having a 'a bad trip' whilst me and my young boyfriend partied around him, with another old guy present.
He is now a complete mess. In nappies.

I have much experience with many addicts. Lots of people who look like they have their shit together.
A recent ex was a prolific drug user, as of course was his son. I saw the signs early, ex was in denial.
Whilst we were together I didn't realise the issues both of them had with the drugs.
We eventually split. The son turned out to have serious addiction issues (as predicted by me).
The dad turned up one day to try and woo me back. I was tempted as been very lonely in lockdown, still working and some serious mental health issues.
Fortunately, whilst still making awkward small talk on the doorstep, he let slip that he and his son had spent the weekend (in lockdown) with friends, doing South American psychedelics. I was stunned at his selfishness with his vulnerable boy. This guy looks like he has his shit together, people see him as a pillar of the community. Nobody has a word to say against him. Near the end of our relationship he let slip about some domestic violence 'self defence' against an ex wife. Along with a few other violent stories which were him bragging but completely incongruous with the man I'd been in love with the last two years.

Most of them wouldn't have given two hoots about giving their daughter weed, or whatever is the drug of choice at the time.
As long as they have someone who wants to get high with them, helps validate their drug use.
My dad frightened me to death with his drunk behaviour and actually threatened me with death too. He was absolutely vile, inappropriate and frightening. But... When he was straight he was lovely and gentle and funny
None of his family understands why I don't give him the time of day now. I truly believe that if an ex girlfriend of my dad's came to court with stories like this, his family would back him up.
Everyone, without fail said my mum deserved what she got and 'she gave as good as she gets'.
Saying its not his fault, he was vulnerable, he's got a good heart etc etc because that's what they say every day, and truly they want to believe it. They want to see the best in him.
I've grown up violence and drugs. I have nothing to do with my parents. My parents toxic marriage destroyed me. I'm still awaiting more therapy, I'm very damaged from a lifetime of feeling unsafe.

@Russellbrandshair

One thing to come out of this for me is: just because something looks pretty on the outside doesn’t mean it can’t be completely rotten on the inside. All those glossy photos of them at premieres and awards ceremonies and their fancy Bahamas wedding. All of it was crawling with maggots underneath the shiny pretty exterior. Just like Facebook only shows edited highlights I think this really has exposed the fact that what we see in the media is often a complete and utter charade. I look at them and think bloody hell, I’ve had some blistering rows with my husband but compared to them we are fcking Romeo and Juliet!

You have just described showbiz There is a group of the 'Beautiful people' in my town, they're are actually huge coke heads. These are the instagram families, the ones who look like Premier league footballers and their wives. Pristine children, homes like something out of a magazine. Loads of swinging and cheating, even within that environment of liberal open marriage. They all look so aspirational. I recently bumped into a pair of them in the middle of a row, it was messy. there's lots of violence in the couples too, police cars regularly appear, but online they look like the happiest people with the perfect hair and nails

Haven’t read the full thread but I think it’s just awful.
Talk about washing your dirty linen in public.
It’s almost like the Harry and Meghan scenario with daily mail.
None oF it is going to end well and no one is going to come out of it smelling of roseS.
Even if totally untrue, who can ever forget amber turd.

@famousforwrongreason
Good lord. Sounds horrendous
I’m so glad I lead a quiet life

I dont really understand the relevance of prior partners saying he wasn’t violent. I suppose it establishes a pattern, but that’s rather like saying well, this rapist never raped several women he met before the victim therefore he can’t possibly have raped her! JD has admitted that he wasn’t doing hard drugs that much with VP until right at the end of their relationship when it was crumbling. Presumably, his kids were around too so that probably inhibited his drug taking to a certain extent. Either way it’s perfectly possible for drug abuse to escalate and violence to escalate. The fact someone hasn’t been physically abusive in previous relationships is not proof that they never can be violent in the future.

I agree @Russellbrandshair and I think some people would never be abusive in relationships with some people whereas they can and are with others.

Interesting hearing from Amber’s ex-PA about the allegations of effectively taking and twisting her account of being raped. Amber comes out of this whole court case horrifically, as done Johnny. What a messed up pair.

Amber Heard is a vile, calculating, manipulative liar. I’m not a Depp fan but after reading all the evidence including recorded phone calls where she bullies him and admits to her abuse (although trying to gaslight at the same time) watching her smirk and tie herself up in knots lying in court, reading the witness statements etc. I couldn’t believe my eyes that a person like that actually exists and I hope he did manage to give her a taste of her own medicine. She deserves much worse.

If anyone’s interested in hearing all the evidence, a YouTube channel named Incredibly Average lays it all out.

I just really don’t understand their smiling proud waving pictures outside the court.

If I’d taken a dump in someone’s bed, and everyone knew, I’d be hanging my head in shame. Same as if everyone knew I’d written on a mirror with my own severed finger.

They are there like “hey! Yes, I’m a filthy bastard with no boundaries! Hello! My bum stinks! Thanks for coming out today!”

@SisterAgatha

haha! I thought the same. I'd be MORTIFIED knowing everyone heard all this and the idea that they can shimmy out of court smiling, peacocking, and lapping up all the attention whilst their most disgusting habits and revolting and dehumanising behaviours have just been aired for the world to see is unbelievable. Kind of cements in my mind that they both have matching his n hers personality disorders - in their minds they are right and have done nothing wrong whatsoever. They both seem to be unshakeable in their belief that they are wonderful and admirable human beings.

Are people in court? Where have they seen them in court?

Yes their demeanour is set at film premiere, they’ve been pretending for so long neither of them seems to be able to separate fantasy and reality.

Alexis, they are '' A'' ct, tors.

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@Russellbrandshair

I dont really understand the relevance of prior partners saying he wasn’t violent. I suppose it establishes a pattern, but that’s rather like saying well, this rapist never raped several women he met before the victim therefore he can’t possibly have raped her! JD has admitted that he wasn’t doing hard drugs that much with VP until right at the end of their relationship when it was crumbling. Presumably, his kids were around too so that probably inhibited his drug taking to a certain extent. Either way it’s perfectly possible for drug abuse to escalate and violence to escalate. The fact someone hasn’t been physically abusive in previous relationships is not proof that they never can be violent in the future.

Hear hear

@SisterAgatha

I just really don’t understand their smiling proud waving pictures outside the court.

If I’d taken a dump in someone’s bed, and everyone knew, I’d be hanging my head in shame. Same as if everyone knew I’d written on a mirror with my own severed finger.

They are there like “hey! Yes, I’m a filthy bastard with no boundaries! Hello! My bum stinks! Thanks for coming out today!”

I shouldn't but I just laughed out loud at this.

So Vanessa Paradiso and Winona Ryder are no longer due to give evidence.

This is also interesting..

www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/15/amber-heard-antagoniser-rows-with-johnny-depp-court-told

Any reason why Vanessa and Winona aren’t?

Have always liked Johnny Depp but I’ve never met an alcoholic or cocaine addict that