Amber Heard & Johnny Depp....Your thoughts?

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I have seen this in the news over the past couple of days and wasn't really sure what to think. It sounds to me like a very volatile relationship and it may be that they are both abusers. Or at the least they are completely incompatible with each other.

Today I noticed that Amber Heard was walking into court and she had a scarf around her face. Then she removed the scarf and smiled for everyone and waved and seemed to enjoy the cameras being there. It's just an observation but maybe the accusations of her being a narcissist could be accurate? Or is she maybe trying to put a brave face on it all under what must be a very stressful situation for all concerned?

Johnny Depp kept his mask on but was also waving for the cameras I should add.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's none of my business really, it was just something I had thought about after seeing the news today and wondered what others thought!

Ah parents were addicts also.

I missed that. JD said that??

Tiny, yes! All of a sudden the doom laden reverie is broken and his voice is light and elevated 'don't come in, no, no, there's sperm on the pillow' '.

His doc said he loves the romanticism... He's living his own film literally!!

They both come across as broken, disturbed, dysfunctional people who certainly shouldn't be together and need to seek help with substance abuse.

I don't doubt that there was violence but I think it was on both sides.

I honestly think it was a highly dysfunctional relationship fueled by addiction, narcissism, jealousy and anger. Obv no idea who is telling the truth, I imagine the actual truth is somewhere in the middle. Both of them were violent and abusive towards each other. Nothing has been gained by all of this. Neither of then come off well. He is now gonna be forever seen as an angry violent addict and she will always be seen as his ex wife who shit in the bed and goaded him on tape. They are both not nice people.
My dh really likes Paul Bettany so that whole text exchange was hard for him to stomach.

Did he not know all of this was going to come out or something? I don't understand why he's doing this if this is what was going to come out of it

Wow!
Thanks everyone so much for your thoughts, I really didn't expect so many posts!
There are so many well considered points on here and different perspectives I hadn't even thought of.
I think we can all agree this was a toxic relationship. The two of them together was a volatile combination due to them both having their own issues with addictions of one kind or another. As well as abusive and destructive behaviour on both sides. They seemed to bring out the worst in each other and maybe once the newness of the relationship had worn off their true personalities just couldn't be tempered.

I think it will be impossible to definitively prove if JD did physically abuse AH or indeed the other way around, but it is obvious they are both guilty of hurting each other verbally and taking out their aggression in other ways. The recordings can easily be edited and so much can be left out so who is to know the full context.

What does everyone think about their future careers? Some poster's have mentioned that JD is washed up and his career is in decline anyway. Do you think AH's career will ever really take off due to all this? Will she be seen as a 'difficult woman' and not worth the risk on TV and on the big screen? Is there more chance of JD having a resurgence if some big shot director wants to take the risk in casting him in the hope all publicity is good publicity? I assume he has friends in high places and it would be easier for him to reach out for another chance at boosting his career.

Just to add I think they both need intensive therapy and I hope in future relationships they don't keep repeating these destructive behaviours.

Where are people getting content from texts and recordings from?

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@Windyjuly

Famous same. I actually fell in love with a man very similar, in looks, in film industry but massive addict at the time.. I would have had to deal with man child and all that goes with it. Its very very sad and his mum died around this time. To think ah mum died recently too.

In this situation I think with obvious massive issues on BOTH sides they should have put out joint statement... Both to blame, I hit him, he was addict nightmare... End of.

Bless you @Windyjuly. I keep falling in love with the same or similar. Each time I think I've flu d someone different then down the line the same behaviour is exposed. I have mentally ill and addict parents. Have been present when they've carried on like Jd and AH. Either together or with other partners. Absolutely hideous.

I really hope it does impact on their career. Movie stars are paid ridiculous amounts of money. We've glorified showbiz narcissists and abusers for the last hundred years.
They have a lot of temptations thrown their way but they also take advantage massively and have no boundaries etc.
we hold them up as people to aspire to and praise them, copy their looks and clothes, fantasise about what we'd do if we had what they have, look at our lives as lacking in places etc.
But they are empty and often broken, sacrifice themselves and their self worth to get to the position they want.
Adulation of the rich and famous needs to stop. So many kids I know, including my own, want to be famous, become YouTubers etc for the money and trappings but often its a vile superficial journey.
The Internet has been revelatory for stories like this about so many people I've looked up to over the years

Famous I had similar all the around-the-clock me in family which is why I managed too swerve the addict in the end but I never forgot him.

Dh is totally different and his only excess is ice cream

My dp loved to be argue they relished in it. Very, whose afraid of Virginia wolf...

Heard s sister is going to testify.

All she needs to say surely is Depp had black outs, hit her and didn't remember, surely!

I'd hope it's all fiction but doubt that is the case. Only because I would like The Sun to lose and face a massive bill.

Colour, it's been in media, I'd you Google, u tube or papers...

Neither are coming out of it well (and that’s an understatement). Both have major issues and JD is a proper wanker.

Did he not know all of this was going to come out or something? I don't understand why he's doing this if this is what was going to come out of it

Did a lot of this not come out in the previous trial? Presumably the divorce one. I seem to remember seeing bits and pieces but just not as much as this. Then again, I might not have been paying as much attention.

In our current times of cancel culture, I think he thought that being labelled as a wife beater was worse and more damaging (both personally and for his career) than airing his dirty laundry in public.

It really is extraordinary that he would choose this option where his entire private life is laid out for public consumption. It really is unprecedented.
Mind you, he's probably "medicated" most of the time so maybe he hasn't really thought this decision through rationally, in the sober light of day. I suspect he's always on some substance or another to calm himself.

He doesnt listen. I read about a journalist who spent several days with him at his house and he was just buying properties- spending millions, after being told by his financial advisor not to. He doesnt even look at the papers he signs and he admits that.
I would imagine they warned him but he wouldnt listen. He has frittered millions away in a matter of weeks. Its quite astonishing.

I don't get how you can not listen about this.
It's quite shocking what's coming out - and the amount of things coming out

Narcissists rarely do listen! I imagine his ego is huge- often the way with actors.

That comment to Paul Bettany, horrific.
What is the thing about the dog that someone mentioned ?

@famousforwrongreason

I really hope it does impact on their career. Movie stars are paid ridiculous amounts of money. We've glorified showbiz narcissists and abusers for the last hundred years. They have a lot of temptations thrown their way but they also take advantage massively and have no boundaries etc. we hold them up as people to aspire to and praise them, copy their looks and clothes, fantasise about what we'd do if we had what they have, look at our lives as lacking in places etc. But they are empty and often broken, sacrifice themselves and their self worth to get to the position they want. Adulation of the rich and famous needs to stop. So many kids I know, including my own, want to be famous, become YouTubers etc for the money and trappings but often its a vile superficial journey. The Internet has been revelatory for stories like this about so many people I've looked up to over the years

Exactly and I think that the pandemic has exposed the desperate need for narcissistic supply of some of these people. Remember all those toe-curling Instagram self-promotions with celebrities telling the rest of us lesser mortals how hard it is for them shut in their colossal mansions? And that truly awful rendition of ‘Imagine’ by a host of tin-eared Hollywood celebrities?

Depp spent millions of dollars blasting Hunter S Thompson’s ashes from a cannon. That kind of reckless display of his total disregard for the value of money is truly repugnant in the real world.

Why the photographs though. Its like they were taken knowing this day would come

Of course they were. Women are told all the time on here to photograph injuries and record/log everything. One incident on its own is rarely enough to get a conviction and once you’re that deeply into it, you’re not always going to leave straight away, so compiling a file and keeping photos etc is DV 101.