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Amber Heard & Johnny Depp....Your thoughts?

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Whatdoyouthinkaboutthisone · 08/07/2020 18:53

I have seen this in the news over the past couple of days and wasn't really sure what to think. It sounds to me like a very volatile relationship and it may be that they are both abusers. Or at the least they are completely incompatible with each other.

Today I noticed that Amber Heard was walking into court and she had a scarf around her face. Then she removed the scarf and smiled for everyone and waved and seemed to enjoy the cameras being there. It's just an observation but maybe the accusations of her being a narcissist could be accurate? Or is she maybe trying to put a brave face on it all under what must be a very stressful situation for all concerned?

Johnny Depp kept his mask on but was also waving for the cameras I should add.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's none of my business really, it was just something I had thought about after seeing the news today and wondered what others thought!

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lynsey91 · 09/07/2020 09:13

Say what you like but Johnny was very attractive and sexy and a good actor - What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Ed Wood, Edward Scissor Hands to name just a few of his films.

I had never heard of her before they married and still can't think of a single film she has been in. I don't think she is that attractive. VP is a million times more attractive

dayswithaY · 09/07/2020 09:23

I agree with Alexis he is stuck in the 90s when people like Kurt Cobain were worshipped and life is not like that now. He turned up at court in a shabby, ill-fitting, shiny suit, desperately waving to "fans" for support. He's just a classic example of someone who has been famous for so long that he's lost touch with reality. The court case is just to protect what is left of his career but he's been badly advised as he is lifting the lid on a very sordid existence. They both come out of this looking awful and hopefully they will both disappear into oblivion where they belong. Does the world need any more Pirates of the Carribean films and can anyone, without Google, name anything she's been in? All I remember them for is smuggling their dogs into Australia.

The one good thing that has come out of this is the mention of Winona Ryder - she's fabulous!

SinisterBumFacedCat · 09/07/2020 09:26

Yep, Johnny Depp is attractive and sexy and therefore can get away with behaving like shit to others Hmm

Can you not see past his amazing looks at all?

KaptainKaveman · 09/07/2020 09:26

Well that's what counts eh lynsey91 ?

Hmm
ButteryPuffin · 09/07/2020 09:26

Why did he and Vanessa Paradis break up? I really liked her. They seemed to have built a stable life together. Not sure why they didn't marry.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 09/07/2020 09:29

Say what you like but Johnny was very attractive and sexy and a good actor - What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Ed Wood, Edward Scissor Hands to name just a few of his films

I dont think anyone is denying that JD was beautiful when he was younger and a good actor. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with his car crash behaviour now does it? Also, would you be happy to be in a relationship with someone who trashes hotel rooms, passes out on the floor and pisses themselves regularly, becomes incoherent for days on end, requires putting to bed by security guards, and has serious anger, jealousy, addiction issues?- you'd put up with all of that simply because theyre pretty?

LOL

possiblepickle · 09/07/2020 09:31

I wish they don’t make any more of the Pirates movies. I am tired of these franchises.
Still not convinced about him being a great actor. He is good, not the top at all.
Overall, I am glad Hollywood is moving on from these men, albeit slowly.

KaptainKaveman · 09/07/2020 09:33

Not just because he's pretty, Alexis. Because he's also rich.

KaptainKaveman · 09/07/2020 09:33

That's more than enough for some people, appaz.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 09/07/2020 09:34

Lots of people are rich though. He's not the only rich dude in existence.

He looks gross now- he looks like he stinks of stale tobacco and wee

possiblepickle · 09/07/2020 09:35

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter

Say what you like but Johnny was very attractive and sexy and a good actor - What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Ed Wood, Edward Scissor Hands to name just a few of his films

I dont think anyone is denying that JD was beautiful when he was younger and a good actor. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with his car crash behaviour now does it? Also, would you be happy to be in a relationship with someone who trashes hotel rooms, passes out on the floor and pisses themselves regularly, becomes incoherent for days on end, requires putting to bed by security guards, and has serious anger, jealousy, addiction issues?- you'd put up with all of that simply because theyre pretty?

LOL

One more thing about all this that pisses me off big time is how men in Hollywood seem to get away with murder but women are immediately labelled bitchy. Between Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron, Mad Max franchise has ditched Theron and picked up Tom Hardy. And of course then promptly went on to choose a younger actress to do that role. Both Hardy and Theron are around the same age FFS. And BOTH had a disagreement. There is also the minor case of Theron having a well-earned Oscar under her belt. I like Hardy this lad culture must stop now.
Moopoohootoo · 09/07/2020 09:36

Dont give a shit and fed up of having to scroll past them to get to the important news.

Windyjuly · 09/07/2020 09:37

Possible, the roles he played, I can't think of others who would have filled his boots?

Blow, donnie brasco, his earlier performances

Yy to him being stuck in the 90s.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 09/07/2020 09:38

@possiblepickle

Urgh yes, its such mysogynistic BS.

Clawdy · 09/07/2020 09:39

Sounds as if they were both as bad as each other, not sure the true story can emerge with all the conflicting, insistent tales on both sides.

SweetPetrichor · 09/07/2020 09:43

He was vulnerable, she was abusive. If you flipped the genders there'd be no question.

It's incredibly sad and highlights how little care there is for male victims of abuse. It was immediately assumed he was in the wrong, his name was dragged through the mud...there's not enough care for male victims at all. All you have to do is look at all the things like 'womens aid' etc...there's very little out there for a man suffering abuse to seek help. It's depressing.

SunbathingDragon · 09/07/2020 09:45

[quote Uraflutteringcunt]Just to right some earlier statements on this thread, Kate Moss was not sleeping in the next room when he trashed the room, it was during an argument between them. Report from 1994.

people.com/archive/picks-and-pans-review-demolition-man-vol-40-no-17/[/quote]
That report said they had had an argument in June and the hotel room smashing happened in September. It then says the hotel room seems to have started with a fight but doesn’t confirm it actually did although it does confirm KM was uninjured and awake when the police arrived. As we should all know very well, media reports are not always accurate or to be believed as fact. JD has stated in court that KM was asleep - considering the fact he has admitted to smashing up a whole host of things whilst other ex-partners were awake and in the same room, it seems an odd thing to lie about when KM could state otherwise and ruin what credibility he still has left (if it’s possible for him to have any left after what we’ve already heard).

possiblepickle · 09/07/2020 10:00

@SweetPetrichor

He was vulnerable, she was abusive. If you flipped the genders there'd be no question.

It's incredibly sad and highlights how little care there is for male victims of abuse. It was immediately assumed he was in the wrong, his name was dragged through the mud...there's not enough care for male victims at all. All you have to do is look at all the things like 'womens aid' etc...there's very little out there for a man suffering abuse to seek help. It's depressing.

23 year older than her, far more experience and connections in Hollywood, a history of abuse, a well-oiled PR machine and 100s of millions £ in assets. I wish I was the vulnerable too. Hmm
SunbathingDragon · 09/07/2020 10:03

@ButteryPuffin

Why did he and Vanessa Paradis break up? I really liked her. They seemed to have built a stable life together. Not sure why they didn't marry.
When they got together there was still bumper stickers for cars doing the rounds that said along the lines of “beep/honk if you haven’t been engaged to Johnny Depp” so based on his past history, I am assuming they didn’t get married because she didn’t want to (absolutely fair enough if that’s the case and it’s not like it would have made any difference to her relationship with him).
possiblepickle · 09/07/2020 10:04

@Windyjuly

Possible, the roles he played, I can't think of others who would have filled his boots?

Blow, donnie brasco, his earlier performances

Yy to him being stuck in the 90s.

I think it could be a generational thing. In our mind, images of actors are sort of mixed up with their private personalities because we grew up around that information probably? I just don’t get the appeal of a lot of other actors from that time. But I do get others. Alan Rickman, Day Lewis, Morgan Freeman. Some legendary acting there. And a much better image to go with it. So I guess it’s the overall effect for people like me. I wonder if this is also a reason he mistakenly thought he should go to court. That has backfired spectacularly.
EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 09/07/2020 10:05

@SweetPetrichor

He was vulnerable, she was abusive. If you flipped the genders there'd be no question.

It's incredibly sad and highlights how little care there is for male victims of abuse. It was immediately assumed he was in the wrong, his name was dragged through the mud...there's not enough care for male victims at all. All you have to do is look at all the things like 'womens aid' etc...there's very little out there for a man suffering abuse to seek help. It's depressing.

Firstly, things like Women's Aid exist because women worked endlessly to get them set up. Secondly, have you never heard of Mankind Initiative? Help for men does exist however just like with help for women you have to seek it out. It doesn't just come knocking on your door.
OutComeTheWolves · 09/07/2020 10:11

[quote bilbotoy]@Uhtredwaere I never said it couldn't be frightening, I asked if it was always?

So it wasn't a thing for rockers to smash up hotel rooms? [/quote]
The thing about rockstar behaviour however is just because it was glorified it doesn't mean it wasn't scary. There's a world of a difference between a group of drunk men messing on and throwing something out of a window to a lone woman being trapped in a room with a drunk and volatile man who is aggressively throwing furniture around.

Likewise I remember reading a biography (I think it was motley crue but I'm happy to be corrected) and in it was an anecdote about a groupie not giving one of them a blow job so they knocked her teeth out. IIRC it was told as a funny story and an example of how rock & roll they were but I'd imagine the woman's perspective would be quite different.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 09/07/2020 10:13

Firstly, things like Women's Aid exist because women worked endlessly to get them set up. Secondly, have you never heard of Mankind Initiative? Help for men does exist however just like with help for women you have to seek it out. It doesn't just come knocking on your door

Exactly, and the main role of such charities is to provide a safe refuge for people to escape their abusers. Often this is to prevent them from actually being murdered. Johnny Depp would not need such a refuge because he has the financial means to live wherever the hell he chooses and he already has security guards and lawyers on his payroll. He is worth approx 200 million dollars. I'm not really sure what a mans refuge could provide him with that he couldn't already provide for himself a thousand times over. He is not "vulnerable" in that regard at all.

GingerScallop · 09/07/2020 10:14

I hate it when other women day he didn't abuse me therefore he could not have abused her. Completely wrong. It's like saying that made didn't rape me do he can't be a rapist. There are rapists, serial killers etc that are absolutely fantastic husbands and fathers. But...
Johnny - I think he was verbally and emotionally abusive especially when drugged up. May be not so much physical. But abuse is abuse
Amber - I think she was manipulative, physically, emotionally and verbally abusive. Then tried to use the poor me am only a frail female act to make money out of him while shutting down Johnny. Poo on the bed? A prank? No. That's abusive AF

fairydustandpixies · 09/07/2020 10:17

I'm on team JD

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