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Amber Heard & Johnny Depp....Your thoughts?

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Whatdoyouthinkaboutthisone · 08/07/2020 18:53

I have seen this in the news over the past couple of days and wasn't really sure what to think. It sounds to me like a very volatile relationship and it may be that they are both abusers. Or at the least they are completely incompatible with each other.

Today I noticed that Amber Heard was walking into court and she had a scarf around her face. Then she removed the scarf and smiled for everyone and waved and seemed to enjoy the cameras being there. It's just an observation but maybe the accusations of her being a narcissist could be accurate? Or is she maybe trying to put a brave face on it all under what must be a very stressful situation for all concerned?

Johnny Depp kept his mask on but was also waving for the cameras I should add.

Anyway, I'm well aware it's none of my business really, it was just something I had thought about after seeing the news today and wondered what others thought!

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bilbotoy · 08/07/2020 22:16

I thought both were equal, I can imagine him having a temper but then the police report etc. However I did listen to this tape & it was very uncomfortable & I thought she sounded abusive, he was stoned I think.

I think it's interesting he let it go & it seemed sorted but when she wrote the article he decided to sue.

bilbotoy · 08/07/2020 22:17

what did Paul Bettany do? I didn't read the articles today as the pooh thing grossed me out.

SusieOwl4 · 08/07/2020 22:18

I believe him , but legally I don’t quite understand the case . Unless he was actually convicted of the alleged “wife beating “:I am not sure why all this has to be dragged up again ?

There is no doubt he has been a drunk and a drug taker but there are recordings of her as well which are pretty damming .

I am surprised he bought the case to court really because the previous court cases were damaging enough to be honest .

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 08/07/2020 22:19

I think it was a case the relationship turned toxic

Maybe he missed family life and for her life with a famous actor wasn’t so exciting with him being drunk and taking so many drugs

Agree neither look good but it’s his reputation at stake not hers he is the one with the ability to make millions and lose millions of course he will have many people claiming what a great guy he is so many will rely on him or just being connected to him

JudyGemstone · 08/07/2020 22:19

possiblepickle I agree, it's been the same 5 or so actors in everything for years, so tedious 🥱

Whoever said up thread that he married for lust and then found out later she was a nutjob, I think that's about right.

I think he comes across as a bit of a spoiled baby though, feeling entitled to chuck his toys around whenever he feels like it.

Did he not leave VP for Amber then?

bilbotoy · 08/07/2020 22:20

There was a huge pile on him from the very beginning when she made her accusations but he didn’t seem to get an equal hearing, though.

I agree, it's important to believe women but there is a balance.

ArriettyJones · 08/07/2020 22:21

He was one half of the “We should drown her, burn her, rape her corpse” text conversation. I think it was his suggestion that she should be drowned as a test to see if she was a witch. Nice man. Hmm

Depp also testified yesterday that he supplied Bettany with coke and other drugs.

TBHno · 08/07/2020 22:21

I'm confused, what does this have to do with Dan Wooton? Who is suing whom?

SusieOwl4 · 08/07/2020 22:22

Apparently VP has always defended him and said he was never violent with her .

ArriettyJones · 08/07/2020 22:22

Sorry. That^ was an answer to “What did Paul Bettany do?”

@bilbotoy

Uraflutteringcunt · 08/07/2020 22:23

Paul Bettany was involved in the discussion about burning her or drowning her. And buying her a beaver and setting up a website called JD shaves AH beaver and making lots of money from it. Egging him on, really.

I think a lot of people would benefit from reading this list from woman’s aid as it is clear that punching walls and breaking things are also seen as abusive behaviour. We have footage or audio of JD and AH doing things in this list. That is without all the other things JD or AH has supposedly done.

They are both to blame.

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/recognising-domestic-abuse/

JudyGemstone · 08/07/2020 22:23

Dan Wootton is at The Sun who called JD a wife beater. JD is suing The Sun for libel.

ArriettyJones · 08/07/2020 22:24

@TBHno

I'm confused, what does this have to do with Dan Wooton? Who is suing whom?
Dan W wrote the piece in The Sun calling Johnny D a wife beater. Johnny D is bringing a libel action because of that article.

Amber H has turned up at court with her own barrister for whatever reason.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 08/07/2020 22:24

@TBHno Johnny is suing The Sun newspaper who Dan edits for, after they published a story calling him a wife beater.

bilbotoy · 08/07/2020 22:30

I think Kate & him are amicable, I'm sure I read after rehab he sent a present to her.

JKRisagryff · 08/07/2020 22:31

Did the people who are saying they are both as bad as each other or that he was the aggressor listen to those tapes of their conversations? Just out of interest.

user135664323455 · 08/07/2020 22:32

I think this case is very damaging for people in abusive relationships because it is showing time and again that people don't understand the dynamics of abuse. They don't understand threatening behaviour. They don't understand coercive control. They also don't understand living with an addict.

Yes yes. Quite horrifying to see the complete lack of understanding on display.

The gullibility of people saying "oh but he did charity work" or "but but but the character witness" as if those things mean anything. Character witnesses are even more unreliable a source of evidence than eyewitnesses. Plenty of examples of men who murdered their wives who were "pillars of the community" with a list of people lined up to talk about how gentle and wonderful they were.

redastherose · 08/07/2020 22:34

It was obviously a bad relationship but I actually believe him tbh.

Having suffered at the hands of a narcissistic person it seems very likely that she is one.

The reaction that she had the forethought to record of him smashing the kitchen cupboards seems to be me very like him having even pushed beyond all normal tolerance.

Having been there I know just how far away from your true nature you can be pushed by emotional abuse.

I am genuinely a calm considerate, understanding and considerate person but was pushed to unreasonable behaviour by my narc exh.

Socialdistancegintonic · 08/07/2020 22:35

I just feel really uncomfortable with all of this played out in the public eye. It’s very messed up. I’m not sure it helps other people in domestic abuse situations.

bilbotoy · 08/07/2020 22:35

Normally in these situations other people come out as they are no longer fearful etc but has anyone else spoke bad of JD?

user135664323455 · 08/07/2020 22:35

Of course I didn't mean that domestic violence is funny, you're twisting my words. Slamming cupboard doors is not good, but it's hardly the equivalent of being violent towards a human being.

You don't understand domestic violence at all. That much is clear from your comments.

ArriettyJones · 08/07/2020 22:40

It was obviously a bad relationship but I actually believe him tbh.

Why do so many posters keep saying “I believe him”?

Believe him about what? His “assaults” on furniture and fixtures??His text messages with PB about burning Amber and raping her corpse? His testimony about his prodigious substance addictions? The drugs he gave his 13 year old DD? Etc etc.

Which bit of what he has said is impressive?

JKRisagryff · 08/07/2020 22:47

I understand domestic violence. I’ve been in a relationship with someone who smashed stuff, threw stuff at me, locked me in the house, kicked doors in etc. As well as psychological and emotional abuse. It was all very intimidating and scary even though he never physically harmed me.

But I agree with PP that the slamming of the cupboard doors was just that, especially when you take into account his mum had died the day before. Why would you even be recording somebody in that drunken state when they are grieving. The thought of DH doing that to me the day after I lost a parent, it just feels inhumane.

Listening to those tapes gives me the creeps, the manipulation is dripping off her. She admits to being the instigator of the violence and admits he has only retaliated in self-defense by pushing her away when she was hitting him. She goads him for doing this but then also makes fun of him for walking away and not fighting back. She makes fun of him for texting a friend to come up after she punched him saying ‘oh well why don’t you two just go and fuck’.

Bearing in mind she is the one recording this conversation, I dread to think the kind of things she was saying when she wasn’t being recorded

covetingthepreciousthings · 08/07/2020 22:50

Paul Bettany was involved in the discussion about burning her or drowning her. And buying her a beaver and setting up a website called JD shaves AH beaver and making lots of money from it

This just gets more bizarre the more I read..

ArriettyJones · 08/07/2020 22:52

Listening to those tapes gives me the creeps, the manipulation is dripping off her.

I agree, but that doesn’t excuse his bad behaviour.

It’s on record that he has his own history of anger problems long before he ever met her.