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Jodie Comer 'cancelled' because she's dating a trump supporter??

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MonsteraCheeseplant · 08/07/2020 07:13

This is weird, right? I've just seen Jodie Comer trending on Twitter and I wondered why, it genuinely seems to be people being upset at her for 1. Being straight and 2. Dating someone who supports Trump.

Is this is a US vs UK thing because Politics really isn't as big of a deal here? WTF is going on?

A few links if you want
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OP posts:
HoneysuckIejasmine · 08/07/2020 10:28

Being a registered party supporter doesn't mean you vote for them. Some Americans deliberately register as the opposite party to attempt to interfere in gerrymandering efforts. Some people say they support a party but don't turn out for them - see GE2019 and Labour. Hmm

CouldBeOuting · 08/07/2020 10:28

@UserErrorMessage

It is weird dating someone who supports Trump
My DF is MARRIED to an American citizen who voted for Trump because “I can’t vote for Hilary - women shouldn’t have that sort of responsibility” - this from another woman!

My DF is (Was?) an intelligent man WTF has he married!?

MonsteraCheeseplant · 08/07/2020 10:31

It's very totalitarian. May I suggest reading 1984 by George Orwell, to see what could go wrong with that extremist position.

By the way, I hate trump. That's not the point here!

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UserErrorMessage · 08/07/2020 10:33

slipperywhensparticus I would not date someone who would support Trump - I don't even think I could like someone, respect someone or love someone who shared Trump's views.

cloud1183 · 08/07/2020 10:34

One good thing for Jodie to come out of this mess is that at least those trolls who have been hounding her will move on now she has been ‘cancelled’

RedToothBrush · 08/07/2020 10:40

@cremuel

To be fair, if she is posting a lot about BLM and left-wing activist stuff (which the tweets imply she is) and is then dating an active Trump supporter, that is a bit hypocritical and I could see why people would be annoyed. But still really creepy that people have gone to such lengths to stalk her. If her partner is just a republican rather than a Trump supporter then it’s not such a big deal.
No. Its not hypocritical.

Liberalism is about encouraging debate and difference of opinion is healthy in creating and reinforcing your own arguments.

Part of relationships is about a healthy exchange of views and in turn that helps to moderate views and understand others with different persceptives - and in turn slowly change opinions. You should respect others with different views even if you don't agree with them. You should instead engage with them and demonstrate over time why your argument is more compelling and better for society as a whole.

The idea that you start from a point of being signed up to all the 'right views' is nonsense. The left is not as pure and immune from valid criticism as it likes to believe. Its healthy for the left to be challenged where it is utterly hypocritical - and not where it is merely differs in opinion.

At the moment there is a real racist undertone to some white support for BLM and there is some utterly sexist stuff entrenched in views that are supposed to be feminist and there is some incredibly capitalist views from some who profess to be be socialists. THATS where the issues lie, not with people who associate with people who aren't fully signed up to 'the cause'. This ultimately serves the likes of Trump far more than 'proving your morality on twitter'.

Its authoritarian bullshit, that is inadvertantly harmful to those it professes to support most. You don't persuade people about an idea with cancel culture, you just alienate them and entrench them.

I am utterly SICK of it.

The sooner it all implodes the better tbh.

RedToothBrush · 08/07/2020 10:44

My lecturer taught me many years ago about the power of censorship and just how dangerous it was.

Who the censors are matters, and there is no guarentee it will always be 'your side' and giving people unlimited powers of censorship has the effect of corruption and exploitation because no one else can hold them accountable.

It HAS to be about maintaing a balance of power and consensus otherwise you get outright conflict.

This is where the US is presently headed. I am not looking forward to seeing what happens later in the year.

derxa · 08/07/2020 10:49

The sooner it all implodes the better tbh. Agree 100%

rainbringsjoytome · 08/07/2020 10:51

Why do people think if you date someone you agree with or endorse all their views?

Before now, I had never considered that others would think I was the shadow mind of my partner.

What an extraordinary opinion.

KimchiLaLa · 08/07/2020 10:51

Who is her boyfriend?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/07/2020 10:54

Nobody knows.. which is part of the issue with the tweets in the first place!

cloud1183 · 08/07/2020 10:54

@KimchiLaLa apparently he’sa regular guy in Boston who works for a tech company. Some trolls hacked either into his or her account and found private pictures and posted them all over twitter. The trolls looked into him and found he voted republican so of course she is dating a Trump fan now 🙄

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/07/2020 10:55

And the woman (not girl) is entitled not to have to display her private life.

WIll twitter ban those trolls? Will they be prosecuted under whatever laws there are about hacking?

I think we can guess the answer...

saraclara · 08/07/2020 10:56

Liberalism is about encouraging debate and difference of opinion is healthy in creating and reinforcing your own arguments.

Part of relationships is about a healthy exchange of views and in turn that helps to moderate views and understand others with different persceptives - and in turn slowly change opinions. You should respect others with different views even if you don't agree with them. You should instead engage with them and demonstrate over time why your argument is more compelling and better for society as a whole.

Exactly. My oldest friends' politics and attitudes to some debates are not mine. Not in an extreme way, but in someways demonstrating that they've led quite a sheltered and very white bread life. There's no doubt that I'm uncomfortable with some of their views, but we can talk about them calmly, and they listen to my experiences and they've surprised me by taking things on board. They are good people and caring and giving friends.

From my point of view I've learned where people who have those sort of views are coming from. If I stuck within my remainer/labour/multicultural bubble of friends and dumped these, I'd be the poorer for it. We need to understand what brings people to the different sides of political thought, if we're to make any progress.

Hopeforall · 08/07/2020 10:58

@RedToothBrush

My lecturer taught me many years ago about the power of censorship and just how dangerous it was.

Who the censors are matters, and there is no guarentee it will always be 'your side' and giving people unlimited powers of censorship has the effect of corruption and exploitation because no one else can hold them accountable.

It HAS to be about maintaing a balance of power and consensus otherwise you get outright conflict.

This is where the US is presently headed. I am not looking forward to seeing what happens later in the year.

Interesting, redtoothbrush. Your favourite thread on the Brexit topic doesn’t seem to tolerate alternative .
Hopeforall · 08/07/2020 10:59

‘alternative views’ that should be.

Maduixa · 08/07/2020 11:00

KimchiLala: Who is her boyfriend?

James K. Burke, obvi. If y0u'R€ n()t ouTr@gEd, YoU hAvE n0t Be€n PaYiNg AtTeNt1oN!!!! (Yeah, I've never heard of him either.)

SirVixofVixHall · 08/07/2020 11:02

Agree Op. Totalitarianism. Very frightening how much this has taken hold. Given that we are in the middle of a bloody pandemic, you would think people would grasp that all of us working together and meeting across political divisions, is the most important thing now.

Justanotherlurker · 08/07/2020 11:04

Why do people think if you date someone you agree with or endorse all their views?

It's cancel culture at its worst, it's coming from the assumption that the world is black and white and that those calling for cancellation have the moral upper hand.

There is genuine push back happening about this now, and IMO it is a good thing.

Even the bbc has picked up on the letter www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53330105

This is the push back that a lot of the vocal left didn't think would happen.

TheLadyAnneNeville · 08/07/2020 11:11

Hmmm... a Trump supporter. Not good.

Coughsyrupsucks · 08/07/2020 11:11

Honestly I bet they were all tweeting #bekind a few months ago. I hope she is ok and who cares who she is dating? Honestly some of them need to get their own lives and stop being so invested in people they don’t actually know.

callmeadoctor · 08/07/2020 11:15

I ve actually started to actively report some horrible posters on Twitter, it seems to me that nobody really bothers to report this stuff to Twitter, we should all be doing this. (Plus its very satisfying when Twitter tells you that your report was correct!)

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/07/2020 11:16

Hmmm... a Trump supporter. Not good. Erm... oh never mind!

cloud1183 · 08/07/2020 11:17

Everytime I log into twitter there is a hashtag that someone is dead. It’s poisonous

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/07/2020 11:17

James K. Burke, She's dating the original Captain of The Starship Enterprise???

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