AD's say "well open the playgrounds and swimming pools then you Malaka"

[Ibake]

New thread!

Oh and our venue is council owned so I won't be surprised if they've sold it off before we get married because it's obviously sat empty costing them money and will be for the foreseeable.

@TrustTheGeneGenie I feel like a broken record but I just can't come to terms with the total lack of any logic.

[quote AnxiousElephant77]@TrustTheGeneGenie I feel like a broken record but I just can't come to terms with the total lack of any logic. [/quote]
Me too :( there is no logic is there!

Especially interesting one about the sewage worker. I’ve just seen the possibility of transmission of Covid through faeces mentioned as justification for not reopening public toilets on another thread. It reminded me of the whole “catching AIDS off the toilet seat” nonsense from the 80s, and makes me wonder what some people DO in public toilets. The only part of me which touches the actual toilet is the backs of my thighs, which as far as I know aren’t especially permeable and I don’t eat with them or touch my face with them. Veering slightly off topic there but I’ve never understood why some people are so weird about public toilets (and toilets in general on MN....)

Some good news at last. DS2 has a provisional wedding date tbc later today for 2 days before they emigrate 😊. Their council was saying they weren't doing weddings until August as they needed to risk assess venues but they explained they were emigrating and their venue has been fast tracked due to exceptional circumstances. It will be just DH and I as witnesses and they are setting up a Facebook group to stream it. His GFs parents and family are all outside the UK so there can't be anyone from her side.

Great news about the wedding!

Random musing here, probably a sign of the state of my brain. I love live comedy but I think the current crisis gives comedians a bit of an issue. I know they like to be topical but it's going to be a LOOOONG time before I find anything about this shit show remotely amusing

Well, the new schools guidance seems relatively OK. (I think) and there is not the thing about dropping GCSEs after all. Thankfully.

Another one
I'm a police officer in Essex, feel exactly the same as you. I've 4 kids in 3 different secondary schools and this is horrific for them at the moment.

Seems to be no requirement for having to have social distancing in schools either, just as suits them, which will be better for the mental health aspect.

@Orangeblossom78

Seems to be no requirement for having to have social distancing in schools either, just as suits them, which will be better for the mental health aspect.

Good news! There's going to be a lot of very angry dementors.

My only concern now is the frequency of which DS has to self isolate because someone else in his bubble is sick.

I'm hoping it's fairly unlikely as the community transmission is generally not that high? Please reassure me ad's!

Apologies if I have missed it but here is the published guidance for parents - note the patronising tone whilst hastily covering up shitloads of U turns

www.gov.uk/government/publications/what-parents-and-carers-need-to-know-about-early-years-providers-schools-and-colleges-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak/what-parents-and-carers-need-to-know-about-early-years-providers-schools-and-colleges-in-the-autumn-term

DD has just rang about an incident at work yesterday. This may be long so scroll by if you want no offence will be taken.

DD was talking to a mum and her 2 young kids yesterday, 1 of whom, the mother explained has GDD. After having a chat the boy (child with GDD) flung his arms around DD. The mum was almost in tears apologising to which DD told her it was absolutely fine, not to give it a moments thought and to carry on with the rest of her day. About an hour or so later DD was called to her managers office (a lovely man), for a discussion about what had happened. DD thought she was in big trouble for allowing the child to hug her, but no, it turns out the mother had gone to guest services to praise DD and her attitude. Far from being given a stern warning, DD has been recommended for a "star employee" award. There was 1 complaint by somebody passing by when it happened but it seems the mother and DD's manager soon put paid to that.

@TrustTheGeneGenie If it helps my 4 year old has been at school since the 1st June. There are 7 in his bubble and nobody has had symptoms. There are roughly similar in the other class bubble and I've seen at least 3 kids from that bubble every day too so they can't have been off for even a day either.

My friends child has a bigger bubble I think, had to have a day or 2 off because a child had a symptom but as soon as they tested negative the bubble was back.

Other friends child hasn't been off either like mine so that's 2 schools without any symptoms and 1 school with a symptom.

Another one
I am a social worker and we have been mixing with children and families throughout lockdown and I don’t know anyone who has has tested positive, either families or colleagues.

@HesterShaw1

And I know we're always pleased with other people's little victories and pleasures on this thread. So can I just mention I had a really nice evening last night. I went round a friend's garden and there were...gasp....EIGHT of us there, all from different houses. He has the most amazing views and his gaff is like something out of the Darling Buds of May. We sat under his vines at ate pizza made outside in his homemade oven. One of the guys has cancer, one has Parkinson's, and they have both have decided life is for living. And yet we have perfectly healthy people in their 20s and 30s too scared to set foot outside. It's just so sad.

Sounds like a beautiful oasis of bliss!

And brilliant about the wedding Country.

I hope the other weddings can go ahead in an enjoyable form.

Pretty much all civilisations have some kind of birth, death and marriage rites, and others for religion or nature. Until not so many generations ago, life was brutal and often short, but life was filled with little feast days and celebrations to punctuate life, bond and brighten up the slog. It's not natural to live without them- no wonder life reverted back after Cromwell! Even austere/puritanical communities have community.
Living for months without celebrations, and social gatherings is so alien to our species.

Materially we are fine. We have time for the DCs. I know my blessings. I know that my position is not average. I'm OK now, because I ditched my career 4 years ago because our family couldn't cope with 2x long hours, no external support and a DC who struggled with wraparound care which we now know is to do with the ASD. I'm aware of the (im)practicalities of childcare, access, costs and time. The difficulties in trying to do justice to your role as mother and employee. I didn't want to fail my pupils and I couldn't fail my children becàuse if I do, there's no one other than me and DH. We were fortunate that we didn't have to grind on, and that we could manage for me to move on at the end of a contract. But it's not hard to see that everyone is unique and some people need a bit of back-up in their corner. Most people do their best with their circumstances and avaliable choices differ.

I know fundamentally we're OK and this too shall pass. But it's not hard to see the variety of tolls that it's taking on the majority of people, and to not accept second-best crumbs just because I can accommodate them.

And another

me and my mum was talking last night as my husbands restarting his driving lesson next week.. And she said.. "Oh well they have been going past mine for ages with learners in"
Thinking they was breaking the rules

I said "no mum keyworkers can still ha e lessons"

She laughed and said "yeah I forget rona knows what a keyworker is to a personal trainer" 😂 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♀️

This makes me angry

My brother in law has worked as a manager in a supermarket. When we were in the peak of this virus, he came into contact with 500 customers a day,fighting over toilet roll! 🤣🙈
He has been responsible for staff, hand over,he has been helping security on the doors, customers, warehouse and delivery drivers and hasn't seen or heard anyone with the virus. He has had customers leaning over him as he's been on the shop floor, hasn't had any PPE (apart from hand sanitiser) either.
Also my friend works in a school. For 14 weeks the keyworkers children and recently the year 1, reception and year 6 children who have returned have all been playing on the climbing frame. My friend went into work on Monday and they now can't play on the climbing frame. So what changed in 14 weeks? Why have they been allowed during the "peak" of the virus but not now? 🤔

Just back from an adventure trundle with DS. I forgot to add butter to the click and collect order (doh!) so we needed a top-up and I bribed DS with the promise of chocolate buttons from the shop. I also thought we could swing by his school and see how long it took us to get there.

We had a good nosy through the gates and a chat with the receptionist, who was waiting to collect some shoes from another parent. All very friendly, and we expressed a mutual hope that things might be a bit more normal come September... I think she is one of us! 👍

It took us an hour to get there once we’d examined the barn, the fertiliser tank, the big stones in the farm track, the wind turbine, the footpath arrows, the bridge over the stream and assorted butterflies, ladybirds and bees... I don’t think we’ll be walking to school in the mornings any time soon Got DH to come and pick up up for the home journey or we might still be out there now!

@mocha78

These people cannot expect the whole world to continue to be at a standstill to give them the perceived level of protection they expect. My children have already sacrificed a whole 4 months of education and their sports and all the fun and socialisation along the way, me and my husband have sacrificed three months of earnings. Holiday cancelled like so many. Selfishly I’ve bloody missed my gym classes, I feel less fit and toned, and my alone time in the house whilst the children are at school! We have done all this to protect the vulnerable

I don't disagree with a lot of what you say (as someone in the shielding group I have previously had a rant spoken here about how we are statistically a small number and unfortunately need to get the fuck on with it )

But may I politely take issue with the "we have sacrificed so much to protect the vulnerable." The lockdown (and I totally think it's been spectacularly fucked up the government) wasn't to protect this very small number of people, it was a (misguided and disproportionate!) attempt to spread out the number of cases in the general population in order not to (buzzword alert!) protect the NHS.

The shielding group were advised to lock themselves in their wardrobes not to leave their own houses for months to protect themselves; and in those houses to live apart from their families for months We were expected to do this to protect ourselves, we are not the ones responsible for the government fucking up children's lives and we have had no benefit at all. Please don't hold us responsible!

Also unfortunately this tactic (my shielding letter advised me to get my hospital bag ready and Advance Care Plan up to date ) this has put the fear of God into lots of these people, some of whom have not left the house for four months and have lived separately from their children in the same house.

I actually find their (and I feel a bit bad saying) "dementoring" much more understandable than some of the fit and healthy none vulnerable, people who have lost any sense of proportion or reason

And on that note I'm off to find someone to take me to the shop for cat food I may or may not have hidden the spare box so I have an "excuse" to go

I'm leaving my hospital bag and advance care plan at home

PS Hurrah for weddings! Even if it's small ceremonies and Big Parties later. The washing hands before exchanging rings made me What about the wedding night?!

@spudlet
Sounds lovely 😂
Everything is such a wonder to them.
If only we could all see life through the yes of a child

Has anyone heard how Spnbaby is today?

spudlet my boys used to walk to school, except when there was a building site on the way - diggers quadrupled the journey time.

Seems to be no requirement for having to have social distancing in schools either, just as suits them, which will be better for the mental health aspect.

I hope wales ends up with similar - at the minute older two have washed and saintered their hands three times before they get to their desk which is 2m a part from any one else and do same on way out.

One of them is meeting up with a friend today - so that's good.

@BubbleIsNotAFuckingVerb did your mother never say to you to tell boys no glove, no love?
No fashionable modern bride should be without her PPE!

So..a ‘friend‘ has had a right good go at me on my own fb page for The police offers posting
Well she can fuck right off.