AD's say "well open the playgrounds and swimming pools then you Malaka"

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That does indeed sound lovely, @HesterShaw1 - its great when you find people who have the same approach to life!

I finally managed to speak to someone on the ward who said they are still waiting for some of the blood test results and once the doctor has reviewed them they will decide if he is ok to come home. Phoned brother to update him and Mum has just phoned him to say he is definitely coming home today and the hospital have arranged transport. But given she phoned me this morning and told he had sepsis I don't think we can rely on that being accurate.

Oh god.

I'm on a work video call and we are talking about returning to the office (or not).

I've had to mute it because it turns out all my colleagues (all younger than me - mostly younger than 30) are dementers who are too scared to leave their house and come into the office.

It's so depressing.

But remember, everyone, it's all worth it to stop people dying!!!

Have been following this thread for a while so thought I should contribute a bit,I too am a fellow AD!

It’s hard to put how I feel in words, I am not very eloquent but I will try. A recent tweet I saw from a mum in my daughter’s class has prompted me to join in, she is sadly a dementor. Yes she has some medical issues that may make her more vulnerable and more anxious. Her tweet was about her concerns about restaurants reopening and the children going back in September. These people cannot expect the whole world to continue to be at a standstill to give them the perceived level of protection they expect. My children have already sacrificed a whole 4 months of education and their sports and all the fun and socialisation along the way, me and my husband have sacrificed three months of earnings. Holiday cancelled like so many. Selfishly I’ve bloody missed my gym classes, I feel less fit and toned, and my alone time in the house whilst the children are at school! We have done all this to protect the vulnerable. But the NHS is no longer overwhelmed so we can start to move forward, why are people so resistant to this?

We are human, living beings, always vulnerable to accidents and disease. Thank goodness for modern medicine, vaccinations and health and safety to protect us but there is always a risk and we just have to live with this and the risk has always been there-people will have to just accept there is a tiny risk they may contract Covid and die from it like every time we step in a car there is a tiny risk we will die, or every time we cut ourselves there is a tiny risk we will get sepsis and die or every time we walk down the stairs in our house there is a tiny risk we will fall down and die from a broken neck, the list goes on and on. I’ve got a bit of a side interest in behavioual science and people’s perception of risk is very skewed and this crisis has really brought that out, I’m surprised I’ve not seen any articles concerning this.

Anyway, keep up the good work everyone in keeping positive, moving forward and supporting businesses affected. By the way I also work in the most vulnerable of professions to Covid. I suspect we were all happily working as normal beginning-mid March when our risk was much higher to contracting it but now we are decked out very uncomfortably like intensive care Covid doctors and nurses when I think our risk is probably much lower than back then, sigh.

I've just been on my LinkedIn page. There's loads of people posting pictures of impossibly neat, tidy, airy workstations set against windows with gorgeous views, and comments like "long may the new normal [sorry] continue" and people posting agreeing comments underneath.

Fuck off, you're all infuriating.

But I've also had a private message from a former client, responding to my latest article Linked In, saying how much she agreed with my argument, because she's struggling with working from home, and how she's experiencing rising tensions with her colleagues. I suspect this is much nearer to most people's truths, even those working totally safe jobs, like she is.

A police officer on a group I’m on wrote this and I’m very tempted to believe them as supermarket workers and other public facing staff have chimed in as well

I’m ready to fight this tooth and nail. I’m so tired of parents putting their fear onto the kids. The kids are only scared because of the parents.

Let me put this into perspective for you... I’m a police officer in London, we have briefing in a room with 30 other officers, we share a locker room (Separate for Male and female), we all walk around the same base swapping over from team to team at handover so sometimes you can mix with 60+ people when shift change over happens not to mention sharing the same vehicles, the same radio batteries, the same doors, computers etc. We then do it all again at the end of our shifts, so again mixing with a further 30+ people sharing everything etc.

Plus then you have the extra officers who have been drafted in from their regular duties to help out and who you don’t mix with on a usual shift etc. Not to mention the people we have to deal with on the streets and the other officers we meet out and about. And when we are taken for aid (duties up town in London) we then share a carrier with sometimes 10 other officers who you don’t normally work with, or have never worked with and could be from another borough.

BUT... only 2 people have had it (confirmed). Surely the police service should have come down with COVID19 now? We got given no PPE except gloves and hand sanitizer (with no alcohol - we had to provide alcohol gel) then eventually we got given masks if we wanted them.

I ended up walking through the COVID A&E department with no mask because we were searching for a high risk missing person!

And one final thing. I have asthma... and the inhalers I’m on make me “high risk”. I’ve been working throughout. Not once have I shielded. I mean I’m pretty sure I had it in December but I can’t prove that.

So why has this virus not attacked me? Are the police completely immune? Does our job make us immune? If the police can still work with no changes throughout the pandemic then surely the teachers can? Surely kids can go back to school with no changes?

Mocha, I completely disagree.

You are eloquent as hell 😁 Very well put. How much more are people meant to give? It's not the bubonic plague.

Nice post mocha. You're wrong, you are eloquent.

ooh, cross post Hester

And another one

My husband and his 70 other workmates work in the sewers with a crappy dustmask and gloves . Absolutley none of them or their families have had the virus ! Now if they can work with raw sewage everyday and not catch it I'm sure teachers can go to work .

And another one

Thank you so much for sharing this!! I have a school mum friend who is a dr in a major London hospital who stopped social distancing at work once the peak declined ie at least 6 weeks ago and says that every time she leaves work, she feels like she goes into a parallel universe where everyone is living in fear and panicking.

@Allflightscancelled

ooh, cross post Hester

Great minds

And another

Get in there.This is such important information for millions of worried parents and teachers to hear. Please, if you can use this argument in your letters to heads/MP's etc. My situation is not quiet as risky as yourself because I'm a nurse in a private hospital (since turned NHS). We haven't had a positive patient for months. We have PPE, however have had a large numbers of staff test positive for antibodies who were working throughout, in my dept and moving about the hospital because they were asymptomatic. I tested negative along with the majority of our staff. The staff who did get Covid in March & April (none now), were mild illness. A few did get it moderately. There are NHS staff/patients in and out of our building every day. We mix with at least 30 different people every shift. The recent introduction of masks to wear constantly has just made the potential risk greater as everyone touches their faces more and removes the masks and put them down on worktops etc - doctors, nurses the lot. This is some evidence that asymptomatic people don't necessarily spread the virus however.

Dowser these are great comments! I really hope we get more people like this, shouting ever more loudly.

The police offer mentions their children’s school

over the peak we had no social distancing in our school, I saw a TA holding hands with one of the kids in the playground at lunch. But suddenly after May half term there is social distancing and stringent rules! Doesn’t quite make sense!

And another mum

Exactly that! I'm key worker but haven't send my boy to school as my husband was on it. But we both were looking forward to get boy back when school re-opened. But then they decided on full blown social distancing and Head Teacher phoned us and strongly suggested we keep him at home as he is very tentative, energetic and assertive boy who would struggle in such a environment. My question is WTF is gonna happen in Sept if they keep stupid rules in? Will I be except from fines because school can't manage him? Sorry for swearing but it's all bullshit to me. I'm tired. My boy is missing his friends and routine. We all go fecking mad here!

Thread moving that quick..I can’t keep up..and try to eat my muesli at the same time

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Wish we could share this!

I have friends that work in supermarkets and have throughout, they had no ppe, customers coming right up to them, touching thousands of products. All fine.

Their children have been going to school too where they haven’t been practicing any social distancing.

Ooh, so as I said a few moment ago, I wrote an article on my LinkedIn page and I've now had several comments about it this morning. My thing is about how working from home can only take you so far, because Zoom and Teams aren't like really life and you can't communicate as effectively (sounds dull but it has the advantage of brevity .

So what's interesting is that my feed is full of people (most of whom I don't know) saying how blissful it is working at home. But my private messages are all about how shit it is becoming now the novelty has worn off.

When asked about other officers

( they feel )exactly the same as ( me) They are so fed up with it. We have two are shielding who could potentially now never be operational again and have to work in a back office role

Me..that’s two out of 70

This vaccine thing is getting my goat, and yes, I'm going to bang on about weddings again.

I'm on all these bloody wedding Facebook groups where everyone is basically freaking out. However, that does not apply to anyone due to get married after the clock strikes midnight on NYE. I fail to understand why anyone thinks if I'm fucked in December, they're fine in February. I have a very lovely friend due to get married next June, who seemingly has no care in the world about it. But if there's no vaccine, how can anyone be sure?

I'm sick of the whole damned thing. I can go to a pub but I can't have a wedding reception? What about track and trace? I can provide reliable contact details for every single one of my guests. My dad can't walk me down the aisle unless I still live at home and we have to say our vows quickly and quietly. Washing my hands before and after exchanging rings? Dp has touched me before, you know

I mean, none of it makes any sense and I'm getting increasingly angry as the days go on.

Ds went to school for his one off 50 minutes yesterday and was like a different kid when he came out. It's all so fucked up.

have friends that work in supermarkets and have throughout, they had no ppe, customers coming right up to them, touching thousands of products. All fine.

DD is working 20 hours a week in a supermarket while the school declines to teach her her A-level courses. No-one at the store as caught Covid.

Love the positive comments.

Just to add my daughter has been working at Home Bargains all the way through this mess without screens and ppe at the start no one in her store has had covid or any stores in the area. Touch wood it stays that way.

@AnxiousElephant77 we are getting married next July and am still anxious about it going ahead as planned. If we have to postpone again we've already decided we will get legally married and jump through bullshit hoops and then throw a big fuck off party as soon as it's legal. Not what we planned but I am damned if I am not getting married next summer.

It's a load of bullshit and I'm very very angry about it.