Major Incident in Glasgow

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I can hear nothing but sirens from my flat.

Have read that it appears to be a terrorist attack, but not confirmed. At least 3 dead. Glasgow city centre. Just awful

Ssd, I was pointing out that there have been some claims in this thread that the accommodation was inadequate. This was also reported on Sky News with regards to the wifi.

I was just pointing out that this in fact a very good quality hotel, of a higher than global average standard, with three meals, centrally located, laundry service.

Ok let’s give you the benefit of the doubt.

I’d happily stay there on a weekend on the town.

Would I be so happy moved forcibly into a room from my own flat, with shared facilities, for 14 weeks with no choice as to food (and the complaints are that it’s mouldy and undercooked ), my £5 a day allowance taken away so I can’t top up my phone and check how my loved ones are, and the Internet didn’t work?

I’m suspecting not.

The people in the hotel have been (peacefully) protesting at the poor quality of food, no social distancing, and poor WiFi. There were also counter protests (ie go home sort of thing).

As I said in an earlier post tensions were rising which is no surprise given in our house of 4 we’re at breaking point after 14 weeks of lockdown.

14 weeks in a hotel full to the brim with people of multiple nationalities, lots of young restless men, and families staying in smal hotel rooms. I imagine a skeleton staff too. Empty city centre, supposed to be “staying at home” nothing to do, no rea greenery or parks within a reasonable walk.

Don’t think it’s anything to do with the star rating of the hotel, more the decision to pile hundreds of disenfranchised people into it.

Yes but you don’t know if the current residents were receiving the usual hotel services. They may have just been getting a roof over their heads, no cooking facilities etc. Difficult with children in tow.

Agree RJ

Looks a decent hotel for a city break near everything, but as somewhere cooped up during lock down with strangers, christ no.

That part of the town is usually buzzing, its like a ghost town just now except for folk wandering aimlessly about, and the odd supermarket key worker.

well what would the solution have been @TheMurk

@TheMurk poor food and poor wifi?/ maybe they could pay for an upgrade then.....oh,wait!

jeez, where is your compassion

How can anyone justify this

Some ignorant comments on here. You do realise what seeking asylum means? It means that you often CANNOT go back to your own country because it may be war torn or there be a threat to your life. My family fled partition in India in 1947. Some people need to get educated on stop making judgements on other people's lives, which may be considerably less comfortable than their own.

Are you for real?

A police officers family has had the call they all dread tonight and people are justifying it because their WiFi was shite? Seriously? People are so desperate to be woke that they’ve lost their damn minds. There is no way any sane person can justify this.

Well to be fair @Punkatheart these are failed asylum seekers. Meaning their grounds for seeking asylum were rejected. They were given the option to return home but then there was a whole shimmy shammy of dogooders trying to keep them here anyway, so they were in a kind of limbo awaiting a reprieve.

Some might say it suits the current executive to have lots of grateful people in the voting population ahead of a big election...

However the real problem is the mismanagement of accommodating them during a pandemic which falls to the SG contractor Mears Group.

No doubt cramming them all across two city centre hotels was the cheapest option.

Perhaps there were better ways to have them accommodated through this period. Or perhaps their complaints could have been addressed in some way.

Or maybe the guy went beserk because he caught the maintenance guy shagging his missus?

We don’t know until there’s an investigation but there were ongoing tensions at the hotel for sure.

@Nixen
With respect, yes I would expect you to have compassion for the vast majority of peaceful/ innocent people fleeing for their lives ( in situations often caused directly by UK foreign policy/ actions).

Like most Tube-commuting Londoners who survived the July 7th bombings, I did not turn into a raving hate-filled person, most people were quite the opposite in fact.

I think those are honest, intelligent and pertinent observations TheMurk. But the other poster who is saying that she lacks compassion for asylum seekers because they 'go round killing people's the most absurd individual. So all asylum seekers should be judged on the actions of a few? Also, we don't know all the facts yet.

@YankeeinKingArthursCourt there’s somewhere in between being a raving hated filled person and being a do gooder who thinks ‘poor guy couldn’t get on the WiFi so it’s totally understandable he stabbed multiple people’. I’ll aim for being in the middle I think.

@Punkatheart did I say I felt that way about all asylum seekers? I was responding to the people who seem to think they can justify this persons actions because his accommodation wasn’t up to scratch. I feel desperately sad for the no doubt entirely innocent asylum seekers he attacked!

No doubt cramming them all across two city centre hotels was the cheapest option.

The hotel had 91 twin and family rooms. There were 100 people staying there.

Not exactly crammed.

Can you please tell me where you’ve found the info these are failed asylum seekers? Or are you meaning they’re in the appeal process? I’m also unsure they are able to vote, again happy to see evidence they are.

No one is justifying anyone being injured. At this point though it looks like an in house fight where one person has lost it, while living in unsuitable conditions and a high stress situation. Probably someone who is highly traumatised to begin with.

To take that to the vitriol against asylum seekers as a group is quite appalling. It happens with native scots regularly. There are no excuses for violence but nor are there excuses for stigmatising an entire group of society based on the actions of one or two. I think our reading resident forgets many of us here are Glaswegian.

I live in Reading too. I understand that refugees and asylum seekers can have extreme and complex mental health issues as a result of their experiences prior to being granted asylum. It's not as simple as 'being grateful'. And mental health services are on their knees, along with policing. . .

Sorry, that should have been some refugees and asylum seekers.