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Lord above, why did I go back on Facebook? I have a dementory shielder who is refuting EVERYTHING I say with "What about ME? What if I die? What about people like ME?"

Sorry for the caps but she's got me really riled. She has never worked because of her condition, which she thinks is unique to her, however I happen to know someone else, with the same condition and more on top, who refuses to let it stop him doing anything. She barely leaves her house at the best of times, her illness truly defines her.
Yet everyone else has to stay in because she will die if we don't.

Sorry, good morning everybody :D

Yes I too am definitely thinking about how things will impact the close family more.

@mylittleyumyum just delete her ....

So many NHS experts around these days - which is interesting given when my health fell apart in feb/March - each and every medic or nurse I spoke to said it was a big fuss over nothing and wouldn’t amount to anything. So tbf if one of the country’s leading consultants doesn’t understand the implications of a pandemic, I don’t think Sue from general ward 7 is going to be guiding Red Cross policy from here on out.

And the ‘Sue in ward 3’ stuff. No one mentions Harpreet in ward 4 who isn’t a dementor and thinks she’s talking crap. Only the dementors get air time. I know several HCPs and none of them are dementors.

I’m going to be “circle back” woman. Last week we talked meat-rearing and slaughter. We’re all so removed from death, including our own of course. My mum died early in the year and some in the family were furious with the NHS that they weren’t doing more. Tbh at that point the only way they could’ve done more is by implementing some sort of Professor Helsing (Transylvania 3) contraption.

My point. I was fucking terrified at first - I have a couple of co-morbidities for this thing - or I might be just fine. So I’ve had to accept my own mortality - and when I did, was able to see the futility of all of this. Afaik none of us are able to cheat death.

But tbh things are getting back to normal, the daily mail today are going on about how bad for you one glass of wine is. So even they are looking for different things to dement about now

I too am bemused by the general acceptance of all this shit. I think it’s partly down to furlough as there’s a substantial number of people who are being paid all or most of their salary and are having a lovely relaxing summer. They’re not looking ahead to the economic shit storm which is about to hit.

I work for a large charity - we're having to cut our research funding by £150,000,000 this year and there will be heavy job losses (including mine). The RSPCA announced last week it was cutting a fifth of its work force and that’s just the start - the charitable sector has a £12 billion pound funding gap - thousands of people will lose their jobs, services which people rely on will disappear, research funding will take years to recover.

Multiply what’s happening with charities by all the other sectors which are badly affected and the near future looks pretty grim. Sorry, sounding a bit economically dementory there ...

@torydeathdrug

“nobody else is looking out for my good or that of my families, so I need to for it myself.”

Yup absolutely that.

I get the distinct impression that however some people dress it up that they are looking out for wider society it is really down to their own fear for themselves and they want everyone else to think about their wellbeing whilst not actually caring much about anyone else

Isn’t the NHS the biggest employer in the UK? That fact alone renders “I know someone who works for the NHS and “ useless because out of such a huge workforce there are going to be hundreds of different opinions. I can imagine GPs being contacted and being told to be prepared for a second wave, because it would be utter foolishness not to. As we’ve said many times before on here being prepared for something and assuming that something is going to happen are two very different things.

Why are mainstream people not more angry about schools, lockdown etc? Why are they happy for schools to remain closed?

I think it has given a significant number of people a 'purpose'. When the experts say 'you' can make a difference, 'it's because of you' we have squashed this virus blah blah blah they feel that they personally are responsible and what they do matters and is important. It also comes from a safe place where they aren't immediately struggling for money, risking their lives and jobs and homes. As people lose their jobs, services suffer because of spending constraints that may change but for now the most vocal are probably not the ones impacted the most.

Well that's my armchair non expert opinion anyway

@NothingIsWrong I definitely think it's worth a visit to your GP. Might well be that 2 weeks off to reset might help you get the energy to get through the summer? You need to put your health first

People on furlough have not had a lovely relaxing summer - most realise that they may well lose their jobs - but sunbathing in the garden/park is free. Maybe we should have stayed at home staring at a wall instead?

There is outrage but most people keep it to themselves.

Oh I do believe the NHS is expecting a second wave in October.
They were, according to the local delivery board my big boss sits on, also expecting one in mid-May, we haven't had our "peak" in the south west (that seems to have tapered off a bit now though) yet, and when the tourists start coming we're all going to die.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
October is normally the beginning of sniffle season, so I understand from what I've read that the October thing is an informed guess: past behaviour being the best predictor of future risk, as they say in my line of work...

My opinion in the schools situation is that while people are off work & they're being paid & the sun is shining life is all good. Come autumn when redundancies hit & it's raining & the fun has stopped people will feel very differently, about schools, lockdown, the whole lot. I think the government has basically bought compliance via furlough and has been very lucky with the weather

Sorry not very well worded - the above is my explanation of why noone's sharing my extreme rage about schools

Also not criticising furlough, it was the right and humane thing to do.

there’s a substantial number of people who are being paid all or most of their salary and are having a lovely relaxing summer. They’re not looking ahead to the economic shit storm which is about to hit.

I agree. SIL has just been recalled from furlough and the wailing and dementoring is off the scale. “I didn’t sign up to this job to risk my life!!!” with the rest of the family fawning over her as if she’s the most put upon person on the planet. Her company are being bastards, it’s not safe for her to be out, blah blah blah.

There are 5 from 40 called back, working in an office which is still closed to the public, she has a whole bank of desks to herself and is easily more than 2m away from anyone at all times and is perfectly healthy and in no way vulnerable. She drives to the office in a car on her own wearing a mask. I want to say get a fucking grip, what does she think is going happen to the other 35? Yet others in the family are telling her to refuse to work, as they will do when the time comes. I’m convinced they are all thick as mince

I definitely think there’s a large element of lazy bastarditis tied up in many people being “too scared” to go to work. Not all of course, but many. I’d love to be going back as it would mean I still had a job :(

I still have one person dementoring that the north west still hasn't had it's peak.

Exactly. The mood will change when the money stops. I supported furlough because it will have saved some jobs. I've been on furlough since Easter personally, and I'm very thankful for that.

However it's lured a few people into a false sense of security I think which is possibly not a good thing.

Come September I think people will be seriously angry if schools don't open because most will need to work by then

@NothingIsWrong not sure why we don't just start referring to it as "delayed gratification".....

DS has a hair appointment! I don’t yet... but getting DS’s mop tamed will be a big step anyway. I have to wear a mask, but fine, if that’s what it takes.

@KaronAVyrus I think the point is everyone is different and thinks differently. No ones saying people on furlough shouldn’t go to the beach, not round here anyway.