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[Nihiloxica]

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[quote Teateaandmoretea]@rookiemere I don’t think it’s that organised. It’s about what the politicians want back and which sectors have lobbied most effectively. No more or less.[/quote]
Minor concessions such as zoos and playgrounds have followed public outcries and petitioning. They will make minimal difference to the spread.

July 4th was clearly a significant date for starting the service/ leisure economy from the initial relaxation point and that has been a consistent way mark since around early May (?) when the initial relaxations began.

I'm not really sure what to call this phase. It is less locked down, very far from normal, "new normal" is bollocks as its just a transition. I did like "Lockout" suggested a long way back but I can't remember by whom.

The theatre sector has lobbied relentlessly and has got nowhere. So I doubt it's as clearcut as that. It is a huge factor though which we shouldn't ignore.

Not allowing grassroots sports is shocking. I just stupidly assumed it would be back on, but with no contact (rugby etc). But no, it's banned. Another blow for children. Just sit on your couch and watch screens, kiddos.

I'd like parkrun to be up and running again, not just so I can participate, but also so DS can do the volunteering chunk of his Duke of Edinburgh.

I suspect the nature of it might need to change to booking a slot the night before and staggered start times, but fingers crossed it's on the list for consideration. I do wonder if people will just start grouping unofficially at the start time - I've been doing the loop which is a cheeky (Scotland) 5 miles away but not on a Saturday morning.

Sorry parkrun is 10 miles away

Yes Ireland's Chief Medical Officer has specifically ruled out another full lockdown.
I"ve been really shocked throughout all this by people's economic naivety. I've been a lefty (more Starmer than Corbyn) Labour voter my whole life & even I realise that Governments can't make infinite amounts of money appear from thin air or micromanage every aspect of a population's behaviour indefinitely. Alot of people seem almost infantalised in their expectations - the Gov should apparently be able to magic away every horrible trade off & keep everyone 101% 'safe' & tell everyone exactly what to do for every waking moment because God forbid my might engage our brains. And I say this as someone who REALLY hates the Tories

Will stop ranting now...

My concern about extra curriculars is that they mix up school communities and spreas out local areas so could potentially take longer to reinstate as I'm assuming a period of schools only to prove that they won't trigger the 10th second wave (I think BLM protests are the 8th so pubs will be the 9th?) I suspect running races are down the bottom of the pile as mass events. I'm supposed to have a couple of local ones in November where the waves can be reduced and managed. Very different to VLM or GNR!

So do pubs.

Ultimately the way out of this is that in autumn we will hopefully have some kind of half-effective vaccine and people will need to be regularly tested. There is an enormous risk of an obesity and health timebomb if we don’t let kids play sport until 2021, tbh the thought of it makes me feel sick.

The theatre sector has lobbied relentlessly and has got nowhere. So I doubt it's as clearcut as that. It is a huge factor though which we shouldn't ignore.

That is true but they didn’t actually present any sort of workable solution to allow them to open as far as I’m aware.

Top BBC headlines are about a second wave FFS.

Meanwhile the data from Scotland tells a different story...

My DCs football and hockey have started back in a very limited fashion (outdoors, small groups, no touching any equipment except your own, 2m rule applied to parents watching as well as players). It's better than nothing, DS was overjoyed to see his football friends this week. There won't be match practice or play anytime soon, just passing drills etc. I am a bit surprised at how many people are calling this "back to normal", it's anything but.

Exactly expletive. The issue is that unless things change children are going to get really bored of not being able to play, which is kinda the point. In hockey you tackle with a fecking stick 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm sorry, I've found another much bigger problem than coronavirus. This is the real issue facing us in these times.

I had to change the ink cartridge on my home printer.

That bastard thing hates me.

Wish me luck...

Some grassroots sport is back - low-level
equestrian competitions have been going for a couple of weeks now and the calendar is starting to fill up. It’s relatively easy to maintain distance when everyone’s on a horse in the open air but it does seem a bit hit and miss as to which sports have been allowed and which are still banned. The whole ‘cricket balls are a disease vector’ stuff sounded absolutely farcical.

I’ve been fending off dh’s offers of a DIY haircut (he does his own with clippers but he’s going bald so just clips the remaining hair very short all over). He assumed I’d be rushing back to the hairdresser as soon as I could but I’m going to hold off for a while. I think the whole, sterile experience will be profoundly depressing and just emphasise how very much Not Normal this all is.

I"ve been really shocked throughout all this by people's economic naivety.

Me too.

I think it tips into outright idiocy too.

Also, there are some on the left that see this cessation as an opportunity to lobby for UBI (weirdly, since UBI is problematic from a left pov).

Anarchists I know are delighted by the chance to permanently disrupt the functioning of the state (even at the cost of unprecedented stare control of individual behaviour ).

There are lots of political agendas served by lockdown, so not all of the blocking is naivety, although it often performs that.

Handy if you happen to have a horse. None of our local riding schools are showing signs of opening. Presumably it isn’t workable with current restrictions

I'm fed up at the lack of proper schooling and things like council pool not being open. Seems more about money than health at times. I only afford the pool due to having a health condition and having a membership due to that. Council pool emailed asking to email the MP but she was not very helpful on playgrounds (lib dem, thought would be better)

@SomewhereEast I’d go further and say I’ve been shocked by a lot of people’s utter stupidity generally.....

Hairdressers open on 13th July here in Wales but I won't be rushing back. Mostly because I'm starting to like wearing my hair longer. I haven't had hair below my shoulders since I left uni (cough) years ago and it's starting to grow on me (see what I did there?)

Interesting to hear about some grassroots sports restarting. I agree it's not normal-normal but it's a damn sight better than what we have here in Wales yet

@Nihiloxica That is an interesting point that I hadn't considered. Not all of the blocking stems from idiocy. Food for thought!

It's annoying when every single conversation about the economy is dragged back to UBI. Never mind your political stance on UBI, it still requires money to be raised from taxation! And public health will take a battering if everyone sits on their arses, waiting to be 100% safe

My hair wants to be long and so I need to get it cut to prevent it growing to my waist.

I was well overdue a cut when this started (finding the time to sit in a chair having hair chopped is a struggle. This is why I haven't had it coloured for years.)

It's already well down my back. I have started wearing it in a giant bun on the top of my head, which works OK, but can make my neck sore due to the weight of it.

I won't be rushing back to the hairdresser because I feel that in hairdressing triage terms, I'm not a priority. Friends who want grey covered are much more bothered than I am, so I will leave it a few months.

Every time I see someone say “the government are putting the economy before people’s lives” I want to shout THE ECONOMY IS PEOPLES LIVES.

I think other posters see the economy as fat cats lining their pockets. I don’t see how they can’t understand the basic facts that it’s about ordinary people having jobs, those jobs enabling them to pay their bills and spend money to enable other businesses to thrive, paying tax and that tax funding all those essential services like...who were we trying to protect again...that’s it, the NHS.

I actually think that all of this is evidence against UBI. It has shown a lot of people are actually willing to do very little if they have the chance. UBI assumes that we would all want to better ourselves and it requires that to be affordable.

@Teateaandmoretea it’s weird how different areas have different sectors opening up. All the riding schools near us opened up as soon as they could at the end of May. They started with individual lessons only with group lessons starting last week. Still no beginners but that’s changing from 4th July as DD’s got a summer job teaching small children on ponies. It’s yet another aspect of this whole thing which makes no sense ...

@Teateaandmoretea

I actually think that all of this is evidence against UBI. It has shown a lot of people are actually willing to do very little if they have the chance. UBI assumes that we would all want to better ourselves and it requires that to be affordable.

Well it assumes that people will do socially productive work that currently has no remuneration.

But yes, it does beg the question that most people aren't lazy shirkers, and this social experiment has shown that to be untrue of many.

That Unions of socially useful professions are blocking a return to work is interesting. Also the number of people at less risk from Covid than flu being awkward about returning to work due to "safety".

Totally agree @BarkandCheese. These people are as thick as shit

it’s weird how different areas have different sectors opening up.

If your competition is opening, it is likely to dispel any reluctance to return.

^That Unions of socially useful professions are blocking a return to work is interesting. Also the number of people at less risk from Covid than flu being awkward about returning to work due to "safety*

I have asked this repeatedly and never had an answer . Wonder why?

1 in 40 chance of getting the virus - schools open as normal, no SD, no one dropping dead all over the place, no PPE.

1 in 2700 chance of getting the virus and falling - too dangerous to go back to work.

Can’t wait for the Tories to make unions even more toothless after all years. They’ve been unreasonable pains in the arses defending the indefensible for years.