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36 COVID fatalities reported today. We are on the way out of this 🌟🌟

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Jkslays · 14/06/2020 19:01

36 reported fatalities today (weekend caveat), the lowest number since the day before lockdown was announced. 77 & 115 the last two Sundays for comparison

Mercifully, the human toll of this crisis is easing

I'm hopeful the trends will continue to improve

As reported by Professor Karol Sikora on Twitter

This is amazing news and surely our schools should be able to open as normal come September!

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Legoandloldolls · 14/06/2020 21:08

I'm really starting to believe that some people dont want this to go or for live to get back to anything near to normal ever.

Less mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, friends etc are dieing.

Surely that's the right direction no?

What can be taken as a good sign? A second rise in numbers of infection and deaths? We could get the kids home forever and never go shopping for clothes, homes or furniture again? But at least locked away no one will ever die? Except we all die eventually and humans have relatively short life spans. Yippie! Decades of lockdown and nothing to look forward too except death from old age. 🤔

Bollss · 14/06/2020 21:09

@TeaChocKitKat

There were only 22 deaths in New Zealand in total so no, I can't get any comfort from the fact there have been 36 deaths in the UK today.
Ah yes because the UK and new Zealand are so comfortable.
Bollss · 14/06/2020 21:09

*comparable

IcedPurple · 14/06/2020 21:11

I'm really starting to believe that some people dont want this to go or for live to get back to anything near to normal ever

That's been clear for a while. Some people are just loving the doom and drama of it all. They hate the thought of not being able to express their outrage at 'idiots' 'flocking' to beaches and the like.

Khione · 14/06/2020 21:15

@Oaktree55 Sun 14-Jun-20 20:16:08
The cases are going down due to lockdown /social distancing/being outside more etc. I think pretty much everyone thinks that come Autumn the cases will be rising. The virus hasn’t changed it been eliminated nor will it be unfortunately. This is very transmissible and numbers increase exponentially given half a chance. Unfortunately the only way of relaxing fully is a vaccine or therapeutic breakthrough. I just worry people think this is the end 🤦🏽‍♀️

Thankfully I am pretty sure you are wrong that 'Pretty much everyone thinks that come Autumn the cases will be rising.' It sounds like you are revelling in this situation. It isn't 'The End' but for most people CV isn't the worst thing that can happen. For one thing flu kills more children than CV has (approx 12 a year in the UK as opposed to a grand total of 3 from CV).

Far too many people seem to be enjoying being as pessimistic as possible - I can only think your own lives are so boring that you want everyone's to be the same.

Casino218 · 14/06/2020 21:15

It's Sunday. The figures always dip on a Sunday. Don't get too excited.

saveeno · 14/06/2020 21:17

The inept Government will be delighted that the thousands of deaths will be forgotten by those unaffected by such deaths once we are able to mingle and resume our lives again.

So very sorry for those who have lost loved ones during this, but that is the reality. The human spirit in general has a way of moving forward and forgetting what went before if the current and future looks ok.

I hate that Johnson might get away with his Government's ineptitude, but like I say, people's memories are short in times like this.

And next up is Brexit. You could not make this up really.

IcedPurple · 14/06/2020 21:21

It's Sunday. The figures always dip on a Sunday. Don't get too excited

I think you're the one who's excited, as you rushed in to be a Debbie Downer without reading the thread and realising that many people have already pointed out that while it's true that figures are always lower on a Sunday, today's figures are the lowest since March.

Oaktree55 · 14/06/2020 21:21

Trust me my life isn't boring and I am certainly not revelling in this! What does bother me is that a lot if not the majority think this will "disappear" or we are at the end of this. Look at how Asia struggles to contain this with very stringent controls which we will not be able to replicate here. It is becoming clearer the more is learnt about this that indoor gatherings spread this virus and my point is come Autumn it is logical that this will resurge again. We do not have the systems in place in the UK to put these "fires" out as they start. This can very quickly lead to exponential growth. It's not my opinion its a fact based on how this virus behaves. I am sorry if some can't handly the facts!

Khione · 14/06/2020 21:21

@saveeno

The inept Government will be delighted that the thousands of deaths will be forgotten by those unaffected by such deaths once we are able to mingle and resume our lives again.

So very sorry for those who have lost loved ones during this, but that is the reality. The human spirit in general has a way of moving forward and forgetting what went before if the current and future looks ok.

I hate that Johnson might get away with his Government's ineptitude, but like I say, people's memories are short in times like this.

And next up is Brexit. You could not make this up really.

The same way that the 28,000 who died from flu just a few years ago were never even thought about by the majority of people who weren't directly affected.
Devlesko · 14/06/2020 21:22

Yes Minister.

Chista · 14/06/2020 21:24

36 lives have not been lost to COVID-19 in the last 24 hours, its home many have been reported. Some of these may have been deaths from a few weeks back. So if someone sadly passes today, their death may not make the Covid-19 figures until the end of the week. In terms of its low even though schools etc have opened, do not forget the incubation period before symptoms develop. China has just seen a resurgence even though they had no positive cases for weeks.
Its complacent thinking that will spurn a second spike.

selfishteenagers · 14/06/2020 21:25

Give it 4-6 weeks then let’s see how things are. That will be the real test

IcedPurple · 14/06/2020 21:27

China has just seen a resurgence even though they had no positive cases for weeks

I'm not sure that a localised outbreak of about 45 cases in a country with a population of 1.4 billion constitutes a 'resurgence'.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 14/06/2020 21:28

@Awwlookatmybabyspider

Even 36 deaths from Covid is far too many, regardless of how far the mortality rate has dropped. I won't relax until we're down to 0
in which case you will probably never relax, which is a shame.
Khione · 14/06/2020 21:28

@Chista

36 lives have not been lost to COVID-19 in the last 24 hours, its home many have been reported. Some of these may have been deaths from a few weeks back. So if someone sadly passes today, their death may not make the Covid-19 figures until the end of the week. In terms of its low even though schools etc have opened, do not forget the incubation period before symptoms develop. China has just seen a resurgence even though they had no positive cases for weeks. Its complacent thinking that will spurn a second spike.
Yay - It is probably may be even less this week

That's even better

NowImLivinInExeter · 14/06/2020 21:31

Because the government is run by a bunch clowns who don't give a fuck about any of us.

I don't disagree with you but you do realise that most of Europe are also reopening non essential shops. Do none of their governments care about them either?

jasjas1973 · 14/06/2020 21:31

Of course numbers are falling, what on earth would anyone expect after 11 weeks of lockdown.... going back up???

We still have 1000s of new daily infections, are in summer and still (more or less) observing many restrictions on work, travel, sporting and cultural events.

We need far fewer cases if we are to lift all restrictions and return to our previous lives, though why anyone would want to is a mystery!

TeaChocKitKat · 14/06/2020 21:32

Genegenie, ok good point:)
However Wales and new Zealand are very comparable countries in terms of population and density. There have been over 1400 deaths in wales alone compared to New Zealands 22 deaths. The UK has the highest death rate in Europe. I also saw a figure the other day where the UK had 10% of the worlds covid deaths. There are so many figures that demonstrate how many unnecessary deaths we've had in the UK. I don't feel pleased or optimistic at all about our figures.

People seem to be very complacent about the virus now our figures are declining but it's still a long way from being over. It doesn't give me any pleasure to say that, I miss going out and I miss my family and friends.

Jkslays · 14/06/2020 21:33

@jasjas1973

Of course numbers are falling, what on earth would anyone expect after 11 weeks of lockdown.... going back up???

We still have 1000s of new daily infections, are in summer and still (more or less) observing many restrictions on work, travel, sporting and cultural events.

We need far fewer cases if we are to lift all restrictions and return to our previous lives, though why anyone would want to is a mystery!

Why do you not want to go back to normality?
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Sandybval · 14/06/2020 21:34

OP you should know better than posting a positive thread on covid, we need to be negative at all times and frothing about a second wave.

Bollss · 14/06/2020 21:34

@TeaChocKitKat

Genegenie, ok good point:) However Wales and new Zealand are very comparable countries in terms of population and density. There have been over 1400 deaths in wales alone compared to New Zealands 22 deaths. The UK has the highest death rate in Europe. I also saw a figure the other day where the UK had 10% of the worlds covid deaths. There are so many figures that demonstrate how many unnecessary deaths we've had in the UK. I don't feel pleased or optimistic at all about our figures. People seem to be very complacent about the virus now our figures are declining but it's still a long way from being over. It doesn't give me any pleasure to say that, I miss going out and I miss my family and friends.
Yes we've had thousands of unnecessary deaths. Lockdown will cause thousands more, in the long term. And actually already has caused deaths. Dragging this out now won't bring those people back.
majesticallyawkward · 14/06/2020 21:35

Even 36 deaths from Covid is far too many, regardless of how far the mortality rate has dropped. I won't relax until we're down to 0

What about the people suffering and dying of everything else because of the lockdown?

There was a man on Jeremy vine this week, he'd been begging for tests since March and had 12 trips to a&e because he was in so much pain he wanted to kill him self. Finally got a scan and he had an aggressive dancer which would have been treatable back in March but has now spread, he's 27 with 2 small children and has a bleak prognosis that was in almost likelihood avoidable. He's one of many being let down because the measures are no longer proportionate.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 14/06/2020 21:35

22 March - 35
29 March - 214
5 April - 644
12 April - 686
19 April - 498
26 April - 420
3 May - 315
10 May - 268
17 May - 170
24 May - 441
31 May - 115
7 June - 77
14 June - 36

....

the pattern is pretty clear

Sandybval · 14/06/2020 21:35

We need far fewer cases if we are to lift all restrictions and return to our previous lives, though why anyone would want to is a mystery

Cannot possibly fathom why people might want to be able to see friends, family, get back to work, children back to school, able to go to the gym etc. Guessing you might be working from home or something and not looking forward to having to do a full days work again? Grin

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