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Anti dementors say lockdown can just fucking do one now, we're going for chips.

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SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 13/06/2020 22:19

New thread! I think this brings the total to 12?

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Mascotte · 15/06/2020 15:25

@OurLady there's a Facebook protest group which had thirty members on Thursday and over 2000 today; writing to MSPs, etc.. big pound I on radio today showing lots of people v unhappy - think it just might be working...?!

rosettesforjill · 15/06/2020 15:26

Walked through our local small town this morning on the way to DD's first nursery settling session (no staff PPE, no distancing between children and that between adult seems pretty relaxed). They've got new 2m markings on all the pavements, which is optimistic as the shops are rubbish and I would imagine it's unlikely that people will be queuing all the way back to the station to go to one of the many charity shops or the weird card shop. I have no desire to go shopping at all!

Mascotte · 15/06/2020 15:26

@HesterShaw1 excellent!

I keep promising myself I'll quit wine.. well, drink less wine..

countrygirl99 · 15/06/2020 15:26

On the East Dulwich thing I think some people's privilege is so strong it shines out of their arse - apologies for crude language but I've just had my umpteenth unreasonable email and I'm getting a bit snippy. I bet she complains about the smell of the sanitiser in shops.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 15/06/2020 15:29

Mascotte I think it must be having an effect.

I think Wales Minsters seem keener to get them back to school than at one time - so hopefully September it will be full time.

TheGreatWave · 15/06/2020 15:39

Hello all, DH has a blood test tomorrow and masks are mandated by the surgery. Me being so "meh" about it all means we don't have any.

Someone posted about a very simple one they made a few threads back, involved sheering elastic I remember that much, but no more. If it was someone can they let me know the instructions again please, or alternatively something that I can whip up tonight with no machine (well a teeny one).

Thank you

Mascotte · 15/06/2020 15:43

Just a warning if you're going shopping: no need to buy occasion wear, as there will be no occasions 😂😂

OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks · 15/06/2020 15:43

"People must be allowed to make their own decisions and nobody gets to say they are not thinking properly.

Outside of the very specific (and legally restricted) circumstance of sectioning someone, we don't restrict people based on the quality of their thinking."

Well yes I would agree in an ideal world, but we don't allow some decisions and we do restrict some people on the quality of their actions/thinking - like you said sectioning, and also imprisonment. I think no one would disagree that some people definitely need restricting in some circumstances (eg a rape and stabbing at local rave)

I suppose the key is "legally restricted" and whether people see these legal restrictions as reasonable or not? Some are straightforward eg everyone except rapists themselves would think rapists should be legally restricted.

But in other situations it isn't so clear cut. I can think of lots of examples of "crimes" I personally, and lots of other people think should be legalised/decriminalised, but I accept some people agree and some don't. So do we go with the majority view - and if so what about unusual cases such as the lockdown?

Apologies if I'm repeating a previous discussion I've missed, or if you just want to say "fuck off and shut up we want to talk about going out not discussing laws for fucks sake" GrinI won't be offended.

It's just that the last couple of threads I have caught have been really interesting to me, especially as someone who resents phrases like "it's for your own good" and "you've let the class down" Wink but yet now I feel I have to do something "for my own good" and it's really pissing me off!

Mascotte · 15/06/2020 15:43

I had to pop over and look

rookiemere · 15/06/2020 15:43

Karona many shops in Scotland are open you just have to look. Our big Next had its home bit open on Friday and clothes are opening today apparently. Clothes section at big M&S has been open for a few weeks. Most gourmet food shops have reopened.

Admittedly it's not a full on Primark filled killing shopping spree. But I'm making it my personal mission to visit and buy things from any opened shop. Hence why I'm currently wearing a rather strong perfume from Next no samples any more just because I can.

AnxiousElephant77 · 15/06/2020 15:51

@Mascotte Sensitive bride easily triggered over here Grin

InsaneInTheViralMembrane · 15/06/2020 15:52

Urgh the neds are mobbing greggs - would never happen at my £6.95/loaf artisan bakery. So crass.

Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy · 15/06/2020 15:56

@OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks - I think the problem is for laws to be legitimate the restrictions/obligations they impose need to be proportionate to meet their stated aim. I could just about see lockdown as needed to save the NHS, but as it's aims become increasingly unclear I can't continue to support it. In fact, I believe it is doing far more harm than good. I suspect as the economic, education, wellbeing and health impacts become increasingly clear the proportionality of the lockdown will become harder to justify in people's minds and people will either start to break the law or show their disapproval in other ways. Having said that I'm in Wales where we're still not meant to travel more than 5 miles and the freedom England is enjoying means it actually feels like another country and there's been little or no resistance. It doesn't mean that our government is making proportionate and just decisions though, particularly in regards to the limits on children and young people.

I've got too much time on my hands and am studying law. Can you tell?!?

Mascotte · 15/06/2020 15:57

Oh, sorry @AnxiousElephant77, I was quoting a corker on the shopping thread 😳

I am certainly planning for flaunting some occasion wear as I cannot bloody wait, and things will be back on.

Weddings must be soon. Surely?

Mascotte · 15/06/2020 15:57

It's actually pretty draconian to prevent people getting married.

mightbealittlebitmad · 15/06/2020 15:57

Shopping thread is hilarious but I am interested to know more about the lack of queues for IKEA? I'm in desperate need of a visit but I don't have time to spend hours in the queue if I go in the week.

Cattermole · 15/06/2020 15:57

@TheGreatWave when my mum went to the surgery last week she was wearing one of the home-made masks (which were nowhere near as good as @BarkandCheese's, being made out of two layers of crap polycotton - yes I did snip it open and have a look Grin )

Surgery gave her a proper disposable clinical mask - dunno what anybody else's experience has been but with ours having a hot side and a cold side I think they're trying to err on the side of caution.

KaronAVyrus · 15/06/2020 15:59

@rookiemere

Karona many shops in Scotland are open you just have to look. Our big Next had its home bit open on Friday and clothes are opening today apparently. Clothes section at big M&S has been open for a few weeks. Most gourmet food shops have reopened.

Admittedly it's not a full on Primark filled killing shopping spree. But I'm making it my personal mission to visit and buy things from any opened shop. Hence why I'm currently wearing a rather strong perfume from Next no samples any more just because I can.

Oh, I didn’t know some have already opened. Looks like I will be going on a killing spree tomorrow 😂
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TuckMyWin · 15/06/2020 16:06

@mightbealittlebitmad I went Sunday morning to our local one, and arrived about 5 mins before it opened. Queued for about 5 mins. All very civilised. The queue looked a bit longer when I left an hour later, but it didn't look excessive.

AnxiousElephant77 · 15/06/2020 16:15

@Mascotte Oh don't worry, I've turned into chief crank and I'm a joy to live with 😬

Nihiloxica · 15/06/2020 16:16

everyone except rapists themselves would think rapists should be legally restricted.

Even rapists (in the rare cases where they are convicted of rape) aren't sentenced based on the quality of their thoughts, but because they broke the law.

It is very VERY hard to get a rapist convicted, and a lot of weight is given to the right of the accused to a fair trial and the presumption of innocence in court.

Restricting everybody because some people can't be trusted to think the right way is pretty totalitarian.

Would women be safer if men had to obey a curfew?

Yes.

Would imposing that curfew be proportionate or just?

Do I want to live in a society that punishes entire groups for the likely infractions of certain members?

No.

SockYarn · 15/06/2020 16:17

Fuck me that shopping thread.

Same old names cropping up again and again with their second wave, everyone's going to DIE bullshit.

I may have got a bit sweary.

SockYarn · 15/06/2020 16:18

Karona many shops in Scotland are open you just have to look

Teenage DD is still recovering from me taking her shopping in the big Asda at the begininng of May and making her try jeans on in the aisle over her leggings to make sure they fitted.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 15/06/2020 16:20

TheGreatWave

Sock masks on you tube might be worth a look. There are many mask types instruction on there.

First one that came up:

They were at one time handing them out to everyone entering - no idea who widespread that is now.