Anti dementors not (second) waving but flouting

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

Welcome one and all. Bad days, good days...we're here for you all

KaronAVyrus - announced in Parliament today. scottishtourismalliance.co.uk/scottish-tourism-alliance-responds-to-announcement-that-sector-can-reopen-on-15th-july/

Thanks Golden. Hopefully some of the season can be saved.

I have lurked on these threads for the past few weeks as the one place of sanity I have found on the internet. Have found it hard to stay positive this week in light of the lack of clear direction on how we are going to emerge from this shitshow that we have somehow got into. I think we are capable of getting through this and on the road to a fairly speedy recovery if only the can’t/ shan’t/ won’t shouty people aren’t allowed to dictate the agenda moving forward. It’s driving me nuts and I am going to have to stop reading the news etc. Fortunately I don’t know many dementors in real life but the media and a lot of threads on MN have really affected me.

DH is going to governors' meeting for school this evening armed with reams of "how we can do this" to bring as many as children as possible back in and I bet my bottom dollar he will be met with "we can't". It's infuriating.

Anyway, can I have an anti-dementor prayer vigil at 4.30 please that there is some movement from our ridiculously demontorish head teacher?

@flippetydip I won the war on our governing board. I will be sending you anti dementor vibes.

Was the hardest meeting Ive ever had though, felt like I was being interrogated.

Flippetydip my dad is Chairman of Governors for a little primary school with 80 or so pupils. Their head has said they can't open for reception as they wanted to because the Govt guidelines are so restrictive they 1. physically don't have enough space and 2. have teachers shielding so not enough teachers for the tiny number of children they are allowed to cover. The governors are tearing their hair out but its really a lack of joined up thinking from the Government (who would have thought THAT would ever occur!! (joke!!) ) that's caused all the issues. The school don't feel they can NOT abide by the rules incase someone sues them for eg putting their child in danger by having 6 children per teacher instead of 5.

I've just read this BBC article about the OECD predicting that the UK economy will be the worst hit in the world and I can feel my inner economy dementor getting riled up.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-52991913

I'm trying not to be too negative but agghh what have we done?! I run my own business so at least I know how much money I've got coming in but I'm so worried about friends and family losing their jobs in the next few months.

@Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy I'm a school governor at my school. This has been emailed round

gov.wales/keep-education-safe-operational-guidance-schools-and-settings-covid-19

It's not the worst thing in the world but does use 'new normal' (arrgghh) and implies that unless things change it will be blended learning in Sept. It does have a heartening use of track n trace to support schols further opening. In owrk atm so not caught up but I can feel the tide turning away from dementors (anyone hear Jeremy Vine on R2 today?)

Well..... so far Boris has prioritised car showrooms, garden centres and golf. What more do the ol' fellas want???

Wales - have just spoken to NHS and private hospital about OH urgent! operation due to be carried out in March which was cancelled by both.

NHS secretary said you will know at the same time as we do when the health secretary issues his lunchtime briefing. Until then surgery confined to cancer and fractures

SPIRE secretary contracter up until July 5th with NHS who may extend it further.

So OH is stuffed, he is still insisting I write to them both to get him to top of list ffs.

Pubs?

@LivinLaVidaLoki - thank you. DH is much nicer and less aggressive than I am and therefore far better liked so he might gets his points across better.

@Blobby10 - this is a lack of joined up thinking from the head as well unfortunately. DH has it in black and white that it can be done to have all the children in from years F, 1 and 6 as well as KW and vulnerable children in but the Head has just not thought things through properly.

We'll see. The whole thing is a farce. Who would have thought we'd have to be fighting in the UK for the fundamental human right of education for our children?

I had to bite my lip today when a friend, no kids but an ex-school teacher and very involved with lots of children personally, told me she was glad children were out of education as it was a factory that didn't equip them properly for life anyway. I did send her a fairly stern reply on email......

Have to turn over when Jeremy Vine comes on. He must send out a bat signal for all the dementors to vent their shite.

Someone has just started a thread as she has a 'friend' in the DFE who has said part time schools until Christmas.

That bloody end of year thing again!!!

If it is December Im just not going to send DS to school until it's ft. I'd rather pay for ft nursery than piss arsing about here there and everywhere and endless childcare juggling for months. He will probably learn more in ft nursery than in 10 hrs a week of school.

Disease professor fears cost of lockdown 'worse than disease itself'
Mark Woolhouse, professor of infectious disease epidemiology at the University of Edinburgh, told the Science and Technology Committee it may be years before the full effect of lockdown is known.

He said: "I don't think we will be able to do a full reckoning of the cost of lockdown for some time yet.

"I have no doubt that lockdown itself will cause a loss of livelihoods, loss of wellbeing and, quite possibly, a loss of lives of itself, but we won't be able to balance that out for some time."

He added: "I fear that, to a degree, in the UK, but certainly internationally - Africa, for example, I do fear that the cost of lockdown may be considerably worse than the disease itself."

^^ I guess when poor people starve to death or watch their babies die of measles they should be happy that it wasn't covid that got them. I despise people.

@bakingcupcakes, my dentist really rates electric toothbrushes. She recommends Oral-B, although the practice (chain) sells Phillips.

@MrsArchchancellorRidcully thanks. Glad to see that all pupils should get something.

www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/10/orchestras-might-not-survive-after-coronavirus-pandemic-uk-conductors?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The impact on live music makes me so sad. I have had the privilege of being conducted by Simon Rattle when I was a teenager (he guest conducted our youth orchestra for one rehearsal) and I will never forget it.

Have been reading today about the suspicion that the virus was in china in August, became more prevalent in October and then started to spread globally. this ties in with the suspicious illnesses November - Jan.

A Consultant friend of the family said the virus has been in the UK since November, and that its mutated since then.

So I'm wondering actually if this stuff we are going through now is actually the 2nd wave...

HELP this thread has just hidden itself from me. How do I unhide it? When I go to I`m on, it does not show.

I have to turn off Jeremy Vine at the best of times, right now I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than listen to him. Ken Bruce is like having a relaxing warm bath with a good book to read, but go one minute over 12pm and all the mental good vibes vanish.

Having effectively lost my job at the start of all this if the government offered quick retraining for TA type roles to ease the strain on schools I’d be right on it.

my dentist really rates electric toothbrushes. She recommends Oral-B, although the practice (chain) sells Phillips.

She's not the dentist off the advert is she?

Have been reading today about the suspicion that the virus was in china in August, became more prevalent in October and then started to spread globally. this ties in with the suspicious illnesses November - Jan.

It's vehemently denied by the Chines of course, but it's definitely worth looking into. I was in China over the winter and had a horrible bug, really nasty - I was iller than I have been for years. However it was very phlegmy and snotty along with the high temp and awful cough, so I assumed it was just a normal chest infection.

There is also this breaking news, which seems to say the opposite, unless I'm reading it wrong. Not beyond the realms of possibility.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52993734

Hurray for tourism restarting.

I am wondering how some of the Scottish dementors are going to cope now.

I've had oral B electric one for years - it's better than a manual and dentist insited we get same for our kids when they were quite young.

Read a thread on here made me think sonic might be the way to upgrade - and so far I think it's better for me. Articles I read seemed less clear there was much difference but did find a science paper that suggested sonic slightly better for gums showing signs of issues - which is where I am.

I'm getting kids sonic next as the multiply settings and sound like a emergency vehicle in the mouth may encourage them to remember to brush rather than me keep naging.