Anti dementors not (second) waving but flouting

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

Welcome one and all. Bad days, good days...we're here for you all

I see the Telegraph has a lead article today of “School age children more likely to be hit by lightning than die of coronavirus”.

iamapixie - excellently put. Thank you, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Heroku , I think you’re spot on.
Really the lockdown hasn’t been too bad here in my coastal town.
Parks have been open. Beach open...but car parks and toilets stupidly closeD, but as I’m only a 5 min drive away it’s not been a problem

I’ve found lots of other nooks and crannies along the coast to pull into and here’s the shocker..just how much of our coast line is being fastened off with gates at the ends of little roads down to it.
I drove down one the other day, my dh isn’t from here and I said you used to be able to get right down to the cove but there was a big gate stopping you.
This was near an industrial site so I’m hoping it’s not happening all around the country but I fear it is.

Our covered in town centre has had 8 shops open. It gets lovely and sunny in there, so even when it’s cool outside, it’s nice in there.
We have a marina, I posted a picture the other day and a historic harbour as well as miles of sandy beach
I’ve never stopped driving.
The furthest I went to was the Lake District about 100 miles away, that was beautiful. I’ve also been twice to a National Forest and when the weather was lovely we had three Indian picnics, where we go to a rural Indian restaurant, buy a takeaway and eat it in their car park under the trees.
My dh even got a bottle of beer
We did staithes, Sandsend and whitby in April.
Seaham a few times, that’s beautiful on the coast and there’s a lovely country park with lots of wildlife that’s been open throughout and the car park open too.
Herrington Park near penshaw monument was open ( not to drivers, so we just parked on the grass along with everyone else) and that was really lovely. We must’ve gone there about late April early May.

I never thought I’d appreciate living where I do in a town that’s the laughing stock of the country but it has served us well and all my children and grandchildren live here and I’ve seen them all regularly.

Was hoping to see my dil in Northallerton today ( saw her about a month ago there)with her lovely baby but the weather is grim Today
I fancied doing another raid on boyes and lewis and cooper
We’ve postponed till neXt week when hopefully the weather is better and more shops are opened
So yes dear heroku, look for the places that had a decent lockdown and see if you can move there
I’m so grateful for what we’ve had

Losing the fucking plot today. DD2 is bored out her mind as DD1 is at school and she isn’t. Pestering me to play sylvanian families with her. I hate playing. Really hate it. Happy to set up crafts, read books etc but I hate playing. On top of that the toddler got up at 4.30am so I’m exhausted and he’s exhausted. He’s whinging at me, pulling my hair and smashing down all the sylvanian families that DD is setting up. DH is as usual in the study and will emerge around 6pm saying ‘have you all had a nice day playing?’.
13 weeks I’ve had of this. It’s fucking awful.

@RubberDinghyRapids

Dear Bloody BBC. Please stop 'writing' articles from individual nurses saying that they don't feel safe, and predicting second waves. Especially ones who have lived and breathed (pun infuckingtended) Covid for the last two months. The one today has done nothing but work and sit alone in a hotel room for the duration. Do you not think her view will be a teensy bit biased? And for that matter the doctor from Barnsley - who only ever pops up to doom.

Yeah I read that article too. And it annoyed the piss out of me. "People aren't living in complete isolation any more!" Well.. fucking duh. That was always going to be a thing that could only be sustained in the very short term. Hospitals are seeing fewer and fewer Covid patients. It has been acknowledged that this will probably need to become something we live with. Flu puts thousands in the hospital and the morgue every single winter, yet we continue to function - and it's well-known that it can put young healthy pregnant women in the ICU. Doctors will in fact have a distortedly negative view of the risk, because they are quite literally beacons and clustering points for the very worst outcomes.

I feel sincerely for HCPs in Covid wards who are exhausted and worn down, especially if they are also living in isolation - they need support and respite, badly. But that article was solid gold guilt-tripping bullshit.

@RubberDinghyRapids

Dear Bloody BBC. Please stop 'writing' articles from individual nurses saying that they don't feel safe, and predicting second waves. Especially ones who have lived and breathed (pun infuckingtended) Covid for the last two months. The one today has done nothing but work and sit alone in a hotel room for the duration. Do you not think her view will be a teensy bit biased? And for that matter the doctor from Barnsley - who only ever pops up to doom.

I've woken up and seen that my friend who fortunately hasn't shared much about Covid but has been of the sanitising his shopping disposition (age 51, very healthy) has posted this BBC sob story as a response to me posting the Spectator article shared on here yesterday about science and the changing of minds as the situation develops.

I have replied back pretty robustly, pointing out that his children are missing school because ONE person tested positive in his local authority area in the last week of May.

I've pointed out that I haven't been flocking off anywhere crowded, or seen any family in 4 months (he drops shopping off to his parent, 70s, no worrying health concerns, doesn't see any other family anyway) and that I no longer buy into the the current cost-benefit analysis of the situation when all the structure of my life is suspended indefinitely, and I'm just existing with lonliness, for the sake of a virus which to my family unit has odds comparible to being struck by lightning.

Bloody love you lot thank you for keeping me sane

@mylittleyumyum yes we are the sceptics. We don't agree on everything (ranging from "maybe we should try to open schools again now" to "lockdown was a ridiculous idea") but are here for a nuanced a discussion on all of this rather than constant fear-mongering. We've managed about 10 threads now without any arguments or narkiness which is quite impressive!

All flights..I had a conversation with my very dear friend who lives in Dorset. She told me that there’d been over 400 deaths one day and over 300 the day before. I knew that wasn’t right. I did a covid live search and I think it had 147 deaths since this had all begun.
I sent her a text for a link to her figures, nicely and politely, that was ten days ago and I haven’t heard anymore yet.

People are believing such crap. So scary.

@mylittleyumyum

Hello, I think you are my people.... Is this the area for skeptical people....?

Yes! Most definitely. Welcome

Bog roll, all flights
My Dorset friend has been sanitising her shopping too ☹️

I hope I'm in the right place to voice this, donning flak jacket just in case....
My daughter's birthday is coming up, we have planned a tiki theme to make the day special. Her Dad and I are in debate over whether to invite her three best friends (two 'come as a pair') and the other is a neighbour who we have been in contact with throughout.
The logical part of me says yes - she's seen her friends over the past couple of weeks, but the other part is screaming that it's not socially acceptable, and neighbours will be tut-tutting and posting about our flagrant disregard of the killer virus all over the village Facebook page.
Should I make her a martyr, play by the rules and order the 'Lockdown Birthday' badge, or invite her friends and to hell with the haters?

My ds came into contact with someone who had a positive test for covid.
He couldn’t even get tested.

Well you should know me by know
Invite friends, ignore haters
Lol

Iamapixie, our oven cleaner came back yesterday. His van clearly marks out what he is. The neighbours will probably object but I don’t give a fuck. They can’t understand why I pay someone to do it anyway. I can’t wait until our cleaner comes back. The local company I use are back but only cleaning empty houses at the moment. I can’t get us all out of the house for 4 hours to let her work. Believe me I tried

@Shodan

The question you need to ask yourself is
Who will be in your life for the rest of your life.
Villagers?
Daughter?

There’s your answer.

@mylittleyumyum - to hell with the haters. Children have sacrificed enough already.

The best bit about sanitising shopping... they cracked and got a takeaway pizza in having worked out a strategy to not catch the virus from the packaging...

They enjoy eating their pizza and shortly afterwards find that their 7yo is sucking on the pizza box

@Dowser it's scary how ignorant people are. Even people you thought would never fall for such crap.

We had an email from DS's HT this morning - in the South West, natch, OH MY GOD THE R RATE!!! capital of the world.

Although there were challenges of opening the school for all in light of the current government guidance, we were 100% committed to making this work. As the Headteacher of your children’s school, I am personally very frustrated and sad that we will not be able to see some children before September. To help with the future, we are asking all parents in Years 2,3,4 and 5 that if they could, would they send their children into school. Can I repeat that this is a big “if” and at the moment we are just gauging opinion.

Dementors can kiss my clanky white ass.
The tide is turning, isn't it?

BlackBerry..I asked an oven cleaner to come one day to clean my oven.
I had friends In At the time
So the guy came.
I’m waiting for him to get a big machine out of his van and attach it to my oven.

Nope , he rolled up his sleeves and got cracking .

In front of my friends, I was mortified. 😂
Thankfully I can laugh about it now.

Dowser it is really, totally weird what people believe, isn't it? The south west as a whole has had very few cases. And the press is conniving at misinforming us. Whenever beaches are crowded someone always takes a pic of the beach in Lyme and it gets published, usually in the Daily Fail. It's happened again recently but either they used an old photo, or they took it from a weird angle or something, because we have friends there who confirm it's been deathly quiet, and if you log into the live webcams (I do it almost daily ) you can see tumbleweed blowing through.

Meanwhile, I saw this cracker on another MN thread today:

It's too soon..
We won't be out of the woods until next March I reckon.

Stop it, stop it. All this talk of cleaners, ours doesn't want to come back yet covid germs something something virus something so we're both going to be back working full time from next week AND have to do our own cleaning ffs.

Re the bbc article.

There is an extremely good reason that sage is a committee made up of different focuses.

Too heavy a focus on one issue can be extremely detrimental to a good outcome on a problem. The closer you are to a single focus generally the worse you are at taking a holistic view and sensibly weighing probibilities and risk. This is why I generally speaking didn't have an issue with Cummings being involved in the original meetings.

It also brings into sharp focus the government jumping on the Imperial/Ferguson band wagon without seeming to consider other options as a particularly odd set of circumstances.

This is why I am super sceptical of all the articles 'from a sage scientist' etc. Generally they appear to be from individuals that just cannot see or accept an issue outside of their expertise.

(if you have done any project management you will recognise the individual. Will 100% use AoB to blither on about a point you have already covered extensively and already used words of one syllable to explain why you will be taking on another course of action over (the generally ridiculous) one they have proposed)

@Cattermole That's amazing, what a woman. We have no such email and ds is currently frying his brain cells on his Xbox and dd is having (another) lie in. Excellent parenting today.