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Anti dementors flock together

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Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy · 07/06/2020 18:43

Gather here anti dementors

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Bollss · 09/06/2020 16:27

That's good @Drivingdownthe101 I hope more schools follow.

I really want to know what will happen come September but it really seems like nobody knows! I mean even reassurance they were discussing it might help!

Thighmageddon · 09/06/2020 16:28

Golden

If the trials of the Oxford vaccine show it works on the timetable they're hoping for it could be licensed for emergency use by September, with thirty million doses ready to go. Would be pretty hard for even the most dementor-y dementors to insist we all have to stay in lockdown once there is actually a vaccine

Sadly I've read on here about people will be refusing the vaccine because it'll be a rushed one.

I'll be queueing camping outside my surgery door with a sleeping bag if I have to to get mine. Alongside my usual flu jab which I read so many saying it's poison, don't have it, it'll cause long term health problems.

SudokuBook · 09/06/2020 16:32

I’ll be standing with my arm out and my sleeve rolled up the second that vaccine is available.

Alsohuman · 09/06/2020 16:33

Me too.

Bollss · 09/06/2020 16:34

I am hopeful for a vaccine. I would definitely get it. But I think not making any kind of back up plan based on the hope that its ready is fucking stupid!

I've not really read up on it lately tbh. Does it look like it will happen?

GoldenOmber · 09/06/2020 16:35

people will be refusing the vaccine because it'll be a rushed one.

That's fine, their call, but there is bugger all chance the government's going to keep paying out furlough or subsidising businesses because some people want to wait ten years before getting it.

(although I do worry that years from now there'll still be people mostly refusing to leave their houses and living in a state of permanent fear until the WHO declare the virus eradicated...)

GoldenOmber · 09/06/2020 16:38

I've not really read up on it lately tbh. Does it look like it will happen?

It's looking fairly good as far as I can see (am not an expert m'self, just spent a lot of time doing OH GOD SOMEBODY COME UP WITH A VACCINE late-night Googling in some darker weeks). Enough that governments (us and US in particular) are already paying to manufacture loads of it before the trials are finished. The team behind it still reckon it's got about an 80% chance of working, AstraZeneca who are manufacturing it here seem pretty confident.

Main problem now seems to be getting enough volunteers actually exposed to the virus to check that it works, now lockdown has reduced the cases so much! They're trialling it in other countries like Brazil and not just the UK now for that reason.

Nihiloxica · 09/06/2020 16:39

Isn't the Philippines where people were being shot for breaking lockdown?

rubs things lasciviously

Oooooh a PROPER lockdown.

Lucky Philippines.

Drivingdownthe101 · 09/06/2020 16:41

@Nihiloxica

Isn't the Philippines where people were being shot for breaking lockdown?

rubs things lasciviously

Oooooh a PROPER lockdown.

Lucky Philippines.

There was a prolific dementor on here in the early lockdown days who said on nearly every thread that we needed ‘forced isolation’ for symptoms. I asked her exactly how she proposed to force it, and did she mean nailing people’s front doors shut like in China? She likes the idea of that. She seems to have disappeared now.
CountessFrog · 09/06/2020 16:45

People are so fucking stupid that they can’t even work out the difference between what was planned and what’s planned now.

Just had an email from our secondary head starting along the lines ‘given the drastic change in plans for primary...’ so it appears even he can’t see the minute difference.

Drivingdownthe101 · 09/06/2020 16:46

People are so fucking stupid

Could have just left it there to be honest Grin. Yes, they are.

AnxiousElephant77 · 09/06/2020 16:46

Dp also absolutely convinced re the vaccine. I feel like it's a pipe dream but probably the only way to get us (fully) out of this absolute mess.

TeacupDrama · 09/06/2020 16:56

I reckon that furlough in businesses that are allowed to re-open will be abolished before October it might continue in some form for those with a medical certificate saying they should shield but can't work from home, but how long a business can realistically be expected to keep a job open for is debatable
SO I imagine that once retail is fully open furlough for retail jobs might disappear, hospitality may take longer to get back so there maybe a bit continuing for longer but my guess is that once employers have to contribute in August some people will be made redundant

if it was me I would have people working if possible I would make it difficult to furlough half the staff with others doing twice as much work, if you have furloughed staff there has to be a ban on overtime or working beyond 37-40 hours for rest of staff, it is not fair for Government /taxpaper to be footing half the wage bill while the same amount of work is being forced out of half the number of staff, eg if there is too much work for 15 people to complete in 37 hours each then you need to bring someone else out of furlough. I think there will be a lot of furlough fraud cases later.

Personally I would have school back with kids in rows and 1 metre apart most of the time ( not for play etc) and teacher 2 metres away
not because I think rows is best for learning but it is best for not spreading as side by side and behind other children rather than face to face

I think we need to update attendance policies there would be far less colds and flu in general if people didn't go to school / work when had colds bugs etc silly attendance policies that force kids into school or people into work when ill encourage spread of any virus, there must be some mechanism for dealing with those that seem to get 10 colds per winter or get a cold every Friday/ Monday but until recently parents were threatened with all sorts for keeping Johnny off school with a cough, and people threatened with job loss if stayed at home just take two nurofen and bring a box of tissues

Care home staff are low paid and can't afford to be off sick with no pay so unwittenly they bring germs to the vulnerable especially care in community going from one vulnerable person to another. If we could sort this out with proper decent social care with decent salaries and PPE and time
of course people can't wash hands and don proper PPE when they only have 15 minutes in a home to wash toilet, dress and get a person breakfast in their own home before racing across town to do the same for the next person
if we sort proper care and protection for the vulnerable then everyone else can live their own lives while not imprisoning the vulnerable
Visitors to old folks homes should pre book sign in to say they are well and wash hands but old folk need visitors life is never 100% safe

BogRollBOGOF · 09/06/2020 16:58

@Drivingdownthe101

People are so fucking stupid

Could have just left it there to be honest Grin. Yes, they are.

Grin

I can't really add much more to that!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 09/06/2020 16:58

They have just had the landlord of one of my favourite pubs on BBC News, talking about reopening. (‘We’ve moved the planters to make a one way system... I’m a landlord, not a teacher, I don’t want to have to say to people ‘you can’t sit there’’). They have also turned the taps on at the Black Sheep Brewery and started to make beer again. Smile

BogRollBOGOF · 09/06/2020 17:02

My next mental goal is taking the kids on a pub garden crawl on 22nd June. That will brighten up the daily walk.

Nihiloxica · 09/06/2020 17:04

@BogRollBOGOF

My next mental goal is taking the kids on a pub garden crawl on 22nd June. That will brighten up the daily walk.
GrinGrin

Fantastic

Well you've no choice really now that the schools won't be open.

Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy · 09/06/2020 17:07

Is it still June? Shit. I want a pint. And schools to reopen. First a pint. We won't be allowed one of those in Wales until ??? Joyless fuckers! Please can someone in England adopt me?

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Thighmageddon · 09/06/2020 17:09

Countess was that the one with the brightly coloured picnic tables?

If they reduce the distance to 1m then they've got the perfect set up.

Bollss · 09/06/2020 17:14

I just got an email from both our local Tory MP and the labour one. Both saying the same thing that the council were now advising schools to open on Monday.

The Tory MP advised they had asked for the evidence the council used to make this decision (to delay for 2 weeks) and they admitted they had none.

Fucking fuckers. At least they've relented.

CountessFrog · 09/06/2020 17:16

I have many thoughts, opinions, ideas on this whole thing, but I always come back to ‘people are fucking stupid’

CountessFrog · 09/06/2020 17:18

Except it won’t be perfect because they don’t want it to be safe until September, after which they can spend a few more weeks ‘getting ready to welcome some years back.’

Here’s a radical thought: open your fucking doors and do what you always did. And crack on.

Teateaandmoretea · 09/06/2020 17:18

I’d let them inject me with anything if it means I can get my life back Grin

Bollss · 09/06/2020 17:19

@CountessFrog

I have many thoughts, opinions, ideas on this whole thing, but I always come back to ‘people are fucking stupid’
Me too!
TheGreatWave · 09/06/2020 17:20

Seems like Debenhams at the Metro centre will be going.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/debenhams-close-metrocentre-site-after-18388610.amp