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Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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Smallsteps88 · 05/06/2020 23:37

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Caelano · 06/06/2020 12:00

I’m sure lots of people will have seen the guy round and about, in bars etc but that’s hardly the same as having a chat room conversation where he might confide that he knows what happened to MM!!

Blackbear19 · 06/06/2020 12:01

There must have been people at stages of him life that knew something was ‘off’ with his personality/moral compass.

Possibly but some of these people are incredibly devious. The man who was eventually convicted of Vicky Hamilton / Angeliaka Kluk was volunteering in a church.

Delta do they think Adam was brought by family, is there a child missing in the area they think he came from?

Swiftsseason · 06/06/2020 12:11

Peace apparently the algarve has disproportionately large about of child sex offenders there, probably another aspect of the case that upset the local police.
I'd like to know if anyone has investigated that obstructive police chief in Portugal.
He should be punished if its found that this German is the man...

Perhaps he even has links to him?!

ButteryPuffin · 06/06/2020 12:12

Agree that the most frustrating thing coming out of all this so far is the relative ease with which sex offenders, and child abusers in particular, get to wander around freely committing crimes, serving relatively short sentences, then being released to start again with new victims. It's all completely wrong.

platonicgin · 06/06/2020 12:14

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Casino218 · 06/06/2020 12:16

After reading all of these news stories it's put me right off the Algarve. However I bet many family tourist resorts attract the same characters

Blackbear19 · 06/06/2020 12:19

l think a dc would be alive had they not been so silly

Their DD might be alive, but he'd probably have gone after another DC. Sick individual.

ArriettyJones · 06/06/2020 12:20

Tourist towns are, by definition, transient places with a shifting cast of characters, short term lets, a high proportion of non-locals. It’s inevitable that they attract various types of shadiness and criminality, sadly.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 06/06/2020 12:20

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knittingaddict · 06/06/2020 12:24

Off tangent, but I don’t get why people are sensitive about being tagged?

I thought that too Cadent. It's almost impossible to know who is responding to who if things aren't quoted or user names mentioned.

BeyondDreamsOfBeyondFourWalls · 06/06/2020 12:26

When he was found guilty of the first crime though he was 17 - is that a minor in Germany? If it is, I wonder how come it's public. Aren't child records (if he was legally a minor) usually sealed?

BlueTreeBlue · 06/06/2020 12:28

Anywhere country that has good weather and is cheap to live in will attract a disproportionate number of these criminals. Algarve, Costa Brava, Thailand, etc. Criminals from other countries find that their money goes much further in these places and they may also not have many ties to their countries of origin.

BlueTreeBlue · 06/06/2020 12:30

*Any country, not anywhere country

JoesExotic · 06/06/2020 12:38

I agree with the posters who have said it is important not to give in to conformation bias regarding the German.
He's clearly a very, very sick individual who thoroughly deserves to die in prison. BUT if he wasn't responsible for MM I would want the real perpetrator held accountable, not just anybody- through some desire to have the case 'solved'.
I'm sure the German Police are working on this premise too, but there isn't a person or police force in Europe who wouldn't like to be the ones who 'cracked' the McCann Case.

AlternativePerspective · 06/06/2020 12:39

One of the problems with this amount of publicity though is that the girlfriend, or anyone else might be afraid to come forward for fear of being outed by the press and then targeted by vigilante types who believe that she must have known something if she was with him.

Some people are in a relationship with someone and never know the depth of what they’re involved in, and if this person is genuinely innocent then she risks being hounded by association.

SisterAgatha · 06/06/2020 12:41

I have actually been to Praia da luz, before I had children and I didn’t like it. It didn’t have a very happy feel for me, although the place was very nice. It felt a bit stuck up and closed off. Now I’ve seen all of this I am equally put off Germany tbh.

SisterAgatha · 06/06/2020 12:43

By the same coin, by not naming him, any ex gf may never even know he is such an evil thing and will never come forward. I think they have to offer amnesty to witnesses.

JoesExotic · 06/06/2020 12:43

Indeed @AlternativePerspective, this kind of person often has charm and charisma (when it suits them) to boot.
The man who's attic he lived in whilst in Germany seems by all accounts a 'normal' man, who said all they ever discussed was cars, football and other "man stuff".
He's come out to the press and let them photograph the attic & told his story. My overriding feeling was sympathy for him tbh!

caperberries · 06/06/2020 12:44

I'd like to know if anyone has investigated that obstructive police chief in Portugal.
He should be punished if its found that this German is the man... Perhaps he even has links to Him

Do you mean Detective Amaral? The McCanns sued him for writing a book about the case, in which he accused them of being involved in Madeleine’s disappearance.

I’m not sure whether he’s been investigated, but I think his career is over. The idea that he could be linked to the German suspect is slightly terrifying... it might explain a few things, though.

NameChange84 · 06/06/2020 12:44

I think the likelihood is the person they are appealing to in terms of “loyalties changing” etc is this person

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-identify-new-female-suspect-madeleine-mccann-case-disappearance-portugal-metropolitan-police-a7711226.html%3famp

Sought by police in May 2017, a time we now know is significant in the suspects timeline too.

I think this is who they are appealing to.

caperberries · 06/06/2020 12:46

Now I’ve seen all of this I am equally put off Germany tbh

That’s a bit OTT

madcatladyforever · 06/06/2020 12:49

It is just so unhelpful having a go at the parents because what's done is done. I was a young mum and my child could have gone missing everytime I let him play on the green with his friends and when I was young I'll admit I left him alone a few times to pop next door and see my neighbour leaving the back door open.
Any of those times he could have gone missing, of course I know better now but we ALL make mistakes that could have devastating effects.
Harping on and on about it just causes more misery, I cannot possibly imagine how awful it is losing a child without everyone judging you. That could so easily have been me.

GreenTeaMug · 06/06/2020 12:53

the polcie chief got a suspended sentence for perjury- but not rleated to the Madeleine McCann case.

He's not a shining example of policing.

bathsh3ba · 06/06/2020 12:54

A PP said all paedophiles should be locked up. A paedophile is someone who experiences sexual attraction to a pre-pubescent child. I have absolutely no idea what the figures are as to what percentage of paedophiles act on their attraction and what percentage don't, but the fact that someone is a paedophile doesn't necessarily mean they would hurt a child (or facilitate the hurting of a child by watching child pornography etc). We can't lock people up on the basis of something in their head....

On-topic, I assume the police have more evidence than they are letting on, which doesn't look good for the little girl. I hope for her sake and her family's sake, they get some closure soon. It seems virtually impossible she is still alive and if this man is convicted of killing her, he should be in prison for life. But he is innocent till proven guilty and so I'm not sure how good an idea it is to have his face all over the Internet....

GreenTeaMug · 06/06/2020 12:55

not for perjury, sorry, for falsifying documents.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joana_Cipriano

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