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Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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Smallsteps88 · 05/06/2020 23:37

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SirVixofVixHall · 12/06/2020 11:27

The wigs etc sound more like a fetish for women’s clothing, going by Hazel’s comments.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/06/2020 11:33

What did Hazel say that related to the wigs, SirVix?

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes · 12/06/2020 11:39

@SirVixofVixHall

The wigs etc sound more like a fetish for women’s clothing, going by Hazel’s comments.
The clothes sound like they could be a weird combination of fetish, forensic awareness (Hazel says her attacker wore a leotard and tights) I think it is less likely that you would shed hairs, skin cells etc in that type of close fitting clothes and finally if anyone saw him really odd clothes can take the eyes away from what a suspect actually looks like so witnesses will say he was wearing a red curly wig and a leotard because that is what they noticed rather than being able to say he was tall/short, had blue eyes/brown eyes etc and that give much less for the police to on as once the clothes/wig are removed witnesses are less likely to be able to positively identify him.
Arewedone · 12/06/2020 11:40

@DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes but conversely he makes a sloppy criminal when you look at how many convictions he’s amassed!
Personally I’m not convinced the little boy was taken by CB. He seems to want to control and hurt women/girls.

User1775836552 · 12/06/2020 11:42

I expect he holds some deep murderous anger towards his birth mother for giving him up, yet also wants their attention, hence the vicious attack on the older woman and dating older women. Also clearly resents children.

AlternativePerspective · 12/06/2020 11:43

@ Arewedone but that’s exactly what some people appear to think.

There are lots of references even on this thread about how the police are clearly informing the press about this and that, and of course because the police can’t speak out at this stage the press have free rein to print whatever they want with the added line that “an anonymous source in the German police said,”...

TBH from some of the other stuff he’s alleged to have been involved in I don’t actually believe that he was responsible for MM’s disappearance. That doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s not a despicable individual, he clearly is and should stay locked up for a long time. But I don’t think that this has revealed anything re MM.

Arewedone · 12/06/2020 11:56

@alternativeperspective, yeah it’s a tricky one as there are a number of reports placing a blonde tall man around the apartments, and the girlfriends comment about a horrible job the night before so although speculation can’t be ignored. I think I’m thinking he doesn’t seem part of an organised crime ring.

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes · 12/06/2020 12:04

[quote Arewedone]@DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes but conversely he makes a sloppy criminal when you look at how many convictions he’s amassed!
Personally I’m not convinced the little boy was taken by CB. He seems to want to control and hurt women/girls.[/quote]
One of his teenage conviction for a sex crime involved a young boy. His sex crimes convictions seem to be when we young then a huge gap until the American tourist rape and even that was 15 years after the crime. So apart from getting caught young he seems to have got away with that type of offending for years. His jail time as an adult appears to be for petty crime, drug, stolen goods etc.

GiantKitten · 12/06/2020 12:14

[quote StormBaby]@SpocksEyebrows I read that he was adopted as a child, so possible attachment issues?[/quote]
I’ve been wondering about that too, StormBaby

The references to his childhood haven’t been very detailed & I don’t think we’ve had anything about the circumstances of his adoption.

There were 2 other adopted boys in the family & I think the adoptive parents were quite old? I wonder if the father was very authoritarian, because according to the neighbours CB needed firm discipline & didn’t get it after the father was badly injured in a car crash.

He’s obviously a very damaged personality. It would be interesting to hear from the other 2 but I imagine they’re lying very low.

SirVixofVixHall · 12/06/2020 12:16

Hazel didn’t mention a wig, but he was dressed in women’s clothing and women’s clothes, plus “exotic” clothing (what does that mean?) and wigs were found. I assumed disguise initially but after reading Hazel’s account I think a sexual thing is more likely.

GiantKitten · 12/06/2020 12:19

The mother hasn’t seen any of them for years.

Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2
Smallsteps88 · 12/06/2020 12:19

So why would he risk taking MM if it was for his own gratification from a tourist resort. He lived in PDL and there are plenty of local children.

The 72 year old and the Irish woman were both non locals. Not to mention the German girl from the “rehabilitation” centre. If he is responsible for all those attacks then it would appear he targets non locals for some reason.

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User1775836552 · 12/06/2020 12:23

The mother hasn’t seen any of them for years

That’s strange. I could understand one child going off the rails and having no contact, but all three?

User1775836552 · 12/06/2020 12:24

The mother hasn’t seen any of them for years

That’s strange. I could understand one child going off the rails and having no contact, but all three?

Blackbear19 · 12/06/2020 12:25

I actually think he probably does target locals too but they either take more precautions, or they don't go to the police.

Don't forget Joana the Portuguese police have no interest in reopening her case. I think that says more about what happens in Portugal than anything else does.

Smallsteps88 · 12/06/2020 12:29

I actually think he probably does target locals too but they either take more precautions, or they don't go to the police.

Or are persuaded by the police not to take it further/they’re mistaken etc.

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Blackbear19 · 12/06/2020 14:56

That too Smallsteps.
Women are less likely to report rape if they don't think it will be taken seriously. Not enough evidence to prosecute when they never checked the scene properly.

The more you read the more I feel for the McCann's. The police tried to completely discredit them. I feel guilty that I ever doubted them.

Arewedone · 12/06/2020 15:01

@Blackbear yes precisely, so if local women know how lax the PJ are and possibly under reported or punished, then why target a child on holiday?

Arewedone · 12/06/2020 15:09

I’m still struggling with the idea that if he was super organised would he have walked down the street carrying a child and get into a very distinctive vehicle.

Arewedone · 12/06/2020 15:12

I’m not saying so don’t think it was him, but beginning to think it was on behalf of someone else, which I realise sounds like a wild conspiracy theory.

BeyondDreamsOfBeyondFourWalls · 12/06/2020 15:13

I'm fairly sure it's not that unusual for an offender to not have a "type" - frequently the "type" is whoever they perceive to be vulnerable, male or female, old or young.

Blackbear19 · 12/06/2020 15:16

Because she was unfortunately an easy target.
Assuming he did take Joana and the boy (sorry forgotten his name) from the beach. They were both opportunistic abductions.

Going by Netflix he tried to get his hands on another child but was interupted by her mum.
Knowing the McCann & friends kids were all being left alone he had time to pick and plan which one he wanted.

Blackbear19 · 12/06/2020 15:21

He moved the vehicle on the next day. Seems like a massive coincidence - No?

Also it's thing that people stereotype, paedophile are lowlifes who don't read the Times or drive posh cars. They read The Sun and drive dodge looking vans.

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes · 12/06/2020 15:23

@Arewedone

I’m still struggling with the idea that if he was super organised would he have walked down the street carrying a child and get into a very distinctive vehicle.
Organised in terms of categorising criminals does mean he keeps his coloured pencils in colour order. It means they plan crimes rather than acting impulsively. Why carry a child? Because there was a night crèche at the hotel so someone carrying a child wouldn't be an unusual thing. Given that it was the Jag he re-registered the next day I think it's not too much of a leap to assume that if he took her he used that not the camper van. I wouldn't think black flashy car was that much of a stand out. Because he has become used to getting away with it. Again if we assume he is guilty in most or all of the case he is being linked to (and probably a shit tonne of others that were never reported or were more or less ignored by the Portuguese police) then he has beaten women in public, stalked them, broken into their homes, raped women and walked away casually afterwards without any come back. It took 15 years for him to be convicted of the American lady's rape and if he took Madeleine he has got away with that for 13 years and quite possibly other children for even longer. He probably felt untouchable.
DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes · 12/06/2020 15:24

*Doesn't mean not does mean

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