Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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Ah I know what pp means, it's just the thought of the heartache and distress that infertility probably caused to think of this happening.. it's not saying the actual loss itself worse.

I can see why the police did want the mccanns to be guilty. It covers up the lack of policing they’d done for several years.

This in a nutshell.
For some reason the police in Portugal didn't seem to want to dig too deeply in any of the three missing children cases.

Point the finger and make it fit seems to be their answer, ignore any lack of evidence, or evidence that says otherwise.

Makes you wonder why? Other than lazy policing??

It is hard sometimes not to speculate, especially in a case that has spawned an actual cottage industry of bullshitting and supposition. Plenty of people have made good money out of it. But I do think it's generally best to presume something is a fuck up rather than a conspiracy until proven otherwise.

@Blackbear19

I can see why the police did want the mccanns to be guilty. It covers up the lack of policing they’d done for several years.

This in a nutshell.
For some reason the police in Portugal didn't seem to want to dig too deeply in any of the three missing children cases.

Point the finger and make it fit seems to be their answer, ignore any lack of evidence, or evidence that says otherwise.

Makes you wonder why? Other than lazy policing??

With the Casa Pia investigation at the time, maybe they didn't want any more 'bad press' about yet more paedophiles in their country....

I don't believe the McCanns killed Madeleine, but I don't think everyone who disagrees with their parenting is "desperately trying to convince themselves they can keep their children safe", or whatever pop psychology MN comes up with. You could just as easily say that those who defend the McCanns have probably taken similar risks with their own children and are desperately trying to convince themselves that they're not neglectful.

Alicia not everyone no, but there absolutely is an element of "a bad thing happened to their child because they were bad parents and I am not a bad parent so it won't happen to mine". It is human nature we want to think that we can keep our children safe it's easier to think someone failed to do that than admit that something awful could happen however watchful we are. Every parent I have ever met has lost sight of a child for a moment, or had them run across the road without looking or had them fall off a bed/sofa/changing unit and 99.9 times out of 100 there is no real harm done.

Amaral just makes me shudder. No idea why. Completely dead, cold gaze.

Portuguese police are now being asked to relook at the Joana Cipriano case!
It’s odd the latest comment from an ex PJ saying there’s not enough evidence to convict B. Maybe not back in 2017 but there definitely looks like there is more to come!

Casa Pia investigation at the time,

I've just googled that
But I guess abuse within care homes is verging on a world wide issue.

Portuguese police are now being asked to relook at the Joana Cipriano case!

I makes perfect sense to rebook at it.

Sorry Relook not rebook typo.

@CheerfuIPotato

Amaral just makes me shudder. No idea why. Completely dead, cold gaze.

He makes me shudder because any police officer lying for their colleagues does that.

Amaral makes me shudder because he clearly hates women.

Not a big fan of the Daily Mail but going by them CB was identified to the Portuguese police in 2007. But his name wasn't on the list of 600 suspects that was given to the British and German police.

Really does make you wonder what Amaral was up to?
That is the equivalent of sending other police on a wild goose chase.

On 30 April the granddaughter of 5A's former owners saw a blond-haired man leaning against a wall behind the apartments,

I'm sorry to derail, but I've seen this post before. Former owner? Are the flats privately owned and rented out?

I didn’t know about the coconut shell, that’s interesting.

The coconut shell is bizarre. Did no one with a clue examine it?

The whole think stinks.
Shoddy police work, look the other way & possible cover ups.
How many children have been lost because of this.
I think a whole can of worms is about to explode & about time.

@Andylion

Apparently it took an expert from Kew Gardens to positively identify it as a coconut shell. Prior to that much was made about how Eddie had managed to detect “a child’s skull through concrete walls” .

What's Kew Gardens?

I heard about the scull at the time. But didn't know it had since been ruled out or the same dog was involved

What I dislike on MN is people jumping on posters assuming there was some kind of negativity behind their posts. I have no negativity at all. I never even implied anything remotely similar to some posters on here talking about children being loved more or less.

I said that these parents have suffered a lot and they are probably feeling extreme guilt. So no need to crucify them again and again.

I'm going through my third consecutive miscarriage. I've been to hell and back. The last 18 months nearly broke me. All I'm saying is that these guys had 5 years of this kind of struggle in their lives, then they happily ended up with three children, but another tragedy hit them and it has no end for 13 years now.

This would be enough to break the toughest of us. That's why I think enough has been said about them and no need to criticise them over and over again.

@TracyBeakerSoYeah

The whole think stinks. Shoddy police work, look the other way & possible cover ups. How many children have been lost because of this. I think a whole can of worms is about to explode & about time.

Absolutely.

As an aside, I'm actually wondering how many of you I 'know' from the FM forum years ago....

@Blackbear19

The Royal Botanical Gardens at Kew

www.kew.org

The thought that a child trafficking ring disguised as a children’s home at PDL is just horrific.

@Blackbear19

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_child_abuse_investigation_2008

This details the coconut shell confirmed by the expert from Kew Gardens and confirms the same sniffer dogs were used as had been used in the McCann investigation.

Thank you Namechange.

Just goes to show how stuff hits the headlines then disappears and you never hear much more about it.

Ok, is this new info or am I the last one to hear it?

The guy (he was named here and elsewhere due to the number being linke to some social media account) whose phone number German police published, and who talked for half an hour to CB's number an hour prior to the abduction, is the guy who tipped CB off about the restaurant 'block reservation'? Wow.

news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-was-tipped-off-by-praia-da-luz-hotel-worker-12002751