Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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Given the police only seem to have appealed for more information in relation to MM it makes me think they already have concrete evidence for the other children.

@Blackbear19

Given the police only seem to have appealed for more information in relation to MM it makes me think they already have concrete evidence for the other children.

Sadly I don't they have enough evidence to charge him with anything - if they did they would. They are trying to get people to come forward with the reassurance that he is in prison but he could be out any day so surely if they had something, anything that was strong enough to arrest on they would?

I don't know how the German system works. But if it was here and they released a name and photos of the inside of someone's house I would expect they would have enough evidence to at least press charges for something or surely they would be done for dirtying the mans name - sorry forgotten the right word.

And they are risking vigilante groups to take things into their own hands.

Given the police only seem to have appealed for more information in relation to MM it makes me think they already have concrete evidence for the other children.

I don't understand why you would think that at all. They've said (not actually heard this except in the papers) that they are checking again to see if there may be a link.

I do think being in the area (possibly) is a fragile link. Especially for someone living a transient life style.

I just think the media should calm down and stop printing loads of speculative stuff. Responsible reporting is what's needed not his mother feeding stray cats

His phone puts him in the area of the complex and his phone links with employee at this complex.
The whole complex and area sounds utterly awful! They think the employee was tipping him off on when to Rob.

Robberies, criminals... Dreadful! Networks of degenerates!

Swift season, I never put it together that the employee was tipping of when to rob.
Do you think that who they are appealing to with the "loyalties may have changed".

Surely a child going missing is a different ball game???

Whoever was working in the inside would have known the catastrophe that happened.

Do we know what happened to clement fraud? Was his home checked?

The restaurant bookings list was, according to some reports, left open showing the regular booking for the whole group and possibly also with a note about them leaving their children in the apartments so they needed a table from which you could see the apartment building. I think at least some of that was in Kate McCann's book but would have to check to see exactly what. But it would have been pretty clear for any interested observer that their evenings followed a predictable pattern that was open to criminal exploitation of some kind, whether burglary or worse. That could have been staff member, fellow guest, resident in the area etc. You wouldn't need even to be in direct contact with them.

I don't know how the German system works. But if it was here and they released a name and photos of the inside of someone's house I would expect they would have enough evidence to at least press charges for something or surely they would be done for dirtying the mans name - sorry forgotten the right word. Robert Muratt’s name was released in the beginning.

Names have been released in regard to other crimes to the extent those people have had to move away from the area even though it’s transpired they were innocent.

It happens often enough over here, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t happen in Germany.

Publishing this man’s name prior to any kind of charge is already opening up his family to vigilante action.

So what on earth was going on re the bringing other children over from Germany, some sort of trafficking?

Who knows why those kids where brought from Germany. But you can guarantee it wasn't to build sand castles.

The photos of the inside of the house could be for them to help recognize it.

In Germany they have very strict laws about privacy for criminals. They would noway have released his names with put more evidence. Also perhaps he has no idea of the media storm around him??

Lots of burglary and attacks on children in the time just be forecast they went.
It's Jaws isn't it. Awful.

To help them apparently, re German kids.
Sounds like the Asian sex rings.
Why on earth would any upstanding person who genuinely wanted to help kids have anything to do with cb? Heroin? Crack.. Awful...

Seems to me... (ransom on Internet) two man job operation in Marc Warner.. Working as a team... And the macanns walked into a spider web of criminality.

Who is the 'they' that think he was tipping him off?

I think SM is really bad for putting stuff into fact from speculation or press reports.

Look at all the beliefs about the McCanns ; she refused to answer 48 questions is repeated as if she wouldn't speak to the police about Madeleine.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the german police have released his name, it was the media here who announced it.

Someone working at the resort!. Its all back to the phone numbers! Now they suspect him they have been able to link in phone numbers and one of the phone numbers was linked to an employee at the resort.

Yes I know that. Who is the 'they' that thinks that? Whose theory is it?

The police!
It's a jigsaw isn't it, it's just coming together!

Ok. I can't find a source for that so was interested. Never mind.

Look at all the beliefs about the McCanns ; she refused to answer 48 questions is repeated as if she wouldn't speak to the police about Madeleine.

Yep. And we've seen that on the threads this week: people with no experience whatsoever of criminal interrogation, either as the person being questioned or a professional, piously and in total ignorance condemning a person for following their solicitor's advice in a foreign country.

That's what I mean. All this stuff gets discussed and theories presented as fact and half truths regurgitated. I don't think the media is helping digging all this up and creating a storm around him.

I still can't find who thinks he was being tipped off and by who. Earlier someone posted that Diego has been cleared. I can't see any of that even in the media so with chat forums and the mainstream media themselves this will all become a muddy mess unless he is convicted of all four crimes.

I assumed that part of the reason for releasing the phone number of the caller was so other people could check for the number in their contacts. I have hundreds of numbers in my phone and I'm sure at least 5% of those contacts have new numbers but I haven't contacted them in years. If I was in Portugal I definitely would have checked for the number in my contacts.

I thought initially the number was linked to a teenage boy now but now it's a linked-in account of someone else?

It's hard to know if they are trying to flush out someone in particular, a group of people or having a stab in the dark.

@Noeuf it has been printed in the Portuguese press DS is not linked.
The British police were the ones linking 3 people to phone records and tipping off. One was the driver Carlos at Ocean club,who called in sick the night MM was taken, one was a Waiter and the third was a local young guy called Ricardo . All the transcripts for police interviews are public. I’m sure a quick google will bring up the story at the time.

Thanks Arewedone, so an older report that has some more significance now? That makes sense.

I've read some press but it's a bit icky - the poor mother being pictured in the park with some cats. I think not much will happen until we have another statement from police.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the german police have released his name, it was the media here who announced it.

Police clearly did not try to keep CB's identity a secret. They banked on the media outing him and painting him as a 'serial killer'.

In my view the police have lots of circumstantial evidence (phone logs showing presence near crime scenes, several acquaintances who heard stuff from him that seems to link him to MM's abduction...) and a psychological profile (not least courtesy chat logs) that depicts this man, a convicted paedophile and violent rapist, as someone who is sadistic and fine with killing the child afterwards.

But they have no proof. So they out him, 'allowing' the press to put the jigsaw puzzle together, branding him a serial killer. This way they can dissuade courts from releasing him early, dissuade courts from showing lenience or appyling 'in dubio pro reo'. They know they probably won't ever be able to convict him for MM and the other kids, so they basically try to keep him in prison for everything else.

This is very troubling from a 'rule of law' perspective (even though I understand the motivation, considering they are probably fully convinced he did it).