Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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Agree with posters about serial offenders not always having a set modus operandi. Often about opportunity. Peter Sutcliffe (who later made a huge deal about voices telling him to kill prostituted women) actually started with non- prostituted women walking to their homes in the dark. It was only when he was interrupted that he then moved on the prostituted women as he could isolate them in more hidden areas and then attacked. He’d also started off with breaking and entering.

I think they may we’ll have got their man.

Black, they can be but both mine went through stages of wanting to be called something else.
Also your example doesn't include a child perhaps living under constant threat of violence.

I don't think her holding onto full name washes.
More people speaking out now in the press.
I hope something concrete comes out, I hope this guy is on proper suicide watch and can't do away with himself before the family get answers, any of these families.

People like this move like shadows and its hard to understand just how loose and transient their lives are unless you did a bit travelling yourself or you have witnessed it yourself and I've done it both.
For a time we had same on our street.

I sincerely hope the German police dont just think ‘this is our man.’ I hope they rely on solid evidence. Someone mentioned the Bamber case just now- a classic example of the first office inspecting the case thinking they’d ‘got their murderer’ only to get it wrong.

CB may be a vile low life who deserves to be locked away but there is only shaky circumstantial evidence on him- and that’s after being on the radar of various police forces including the Met for donkeys years. I’m aware people keep piping up with ‘the fact that the police probably know more than they are releasing publicly- yeah, they may do but it’s pretty clear they have nothing very substantial. They are desperately hoping someone will come forward and tell them something... but with all the people who no doubt have grudges against CB, or are keen to ‘help’ the police a plea bargain, god knows whether anyone will tell them anything useful.

It would be wonderful if the case could be solved but we’ve been here so many times before, with ‘breakthroughs’ and ‘suspects’. For years it was the man carrying a child who was the key to the mystery. And it did take literally years for that to be clarified as an innocent dad carrying his child. Then there was the ‘ugly pock marked man’ apparently hanging round the hotel. Then there was the woman with short cropped hair who was apparently the key to solving the case.

Sadly we’ve been there before many times. I fully expect this to be the same... lots of salacious stuff in the papers for a few days and then fading to nothing

Swift that's true, a child under violence would act differently to a child who's being settled into a new family as gently as possible.

However I still can't imagine abductors allowing her to speak freely in a cafe or restaurant.

Then there was the ‘ugly pock marked man’ apparently hanging round the hotel

What, like the ugly pock marked man they’ve named as a suspect?

I’m aware people keep piping up with ‘the fact that the police probably know more than they are releasing publicly- yeah, they may do but it’s pretty clear they have nothing very substantial.

It's clear they can't charge him yet but you can know who did something but not be able to physically prove it.

It seems like you are desperate for this lead to go nowhere.

I think they are trying to flush people out. They know they have the right man, and they probably know what has happened. The releasing of photos with his english girlfriend and her face [erfectly recognisiable for example. Saying that loyalties might have shifted. I think they know very well what is what.

At least, I hope so. I want so much for some sort of justice and for the Mc Canns to have whatever peace is possible.

The Tanner sighting of a man carrying a child was proved to be an innocent tourist but the unrelated Smith sighting of a man carrying a child was never solved and is still seen as a key in solving the investigation.

And they are still trying to locate CB’s ex girlfriends...

And CB does have pock marked skin.

The releasing of photos with his english girlfriend and her face [erfectly recognisiable for example. Saying that loyalties might have shifted. I think they know very well what is what.

We’re the photos of the suspect and his English girlfriend “released” by police? Or were they dug up by the press?

I think it’s dropping out of the news because they have what they are looking for now. They have had 400+ leads so I think releasing the name may have given them the information they want.

This happens usually anyway. Baby P, small article with mothers name in paper, months later the court case comes around and it’s gathered momentum and suddenly no one can be named.

Buttery I'm aware of that; it's the fact he doesn't have any convictions for kidnap and yet the press are identifying him as a serial killer. The link to MM seems very possible but there's a desperation to paint him as already a killer and serial abductor.

Noeuf they caught the Golden State Killer recently. He did rapes, burglaries and murder in lots of different areas. So much so that he had different nicknames in those areas. He was an ex police officer with no/next to no convictions? for crime and was in his 70's when he was caught. If it wasn't for DNA he might never have been found. Background means little.

Where has his girlfriends face been published? I’d not seen that.

@KatherineJaneway oh do give over with the controlling attempts to tell people what they think
FYI i do hope the case is resolved, for the simple reason there is an innocent child who is the victim at the centre.
But I equally hope that if anyone ever is convicted or even charged, it’s the right person. It’s no justice for MM if the wrong person gets convicted

Every few years something ‘significant’ pops up in the news. It doesn’t mean we’re any closer to knowing the truth

Hate to sya it but Dailymail. Sister.

But Arietty might well be right and it was a press dig-out rather than a police release.

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Yes it's not that he couldn't be linked it's the media coverage and online assumptions that police considering a possible link means he did it.

In a few years this will all be misremembered and he will be the killer of all the kids, regardless of any trial or outcome.

@Caelano

Oh give over yourself. I am not telling anyone what to think but you're determined, despite the evidence, to see this man as nothing to the investigation.

This is a good lead. Could it be a dead end? Of course. But ever since Madeline went missing, this is the first credible lead and should be treated as such.

Noeuf that is exactly the reason the police haven't named him before now. They must be fairly sure about him.

Have the police appealed for anyone to come forward in relation to any other the other kids?

@katherineJaneway. You said I’m ‘desperate for the lead to go nowhere’. What a nasty and Sick thing to say

I repeat, I really hope the case is solved because a 3 year old innocent child is the victim here. However, given the bungled investigations by so many police forces, including Failures of the German police force, I’m not hopeful that there will be enough evidence to convict anyone. No body, no forensics. Just circumstantial evidence. It’s been an utter mess but I certainly hope there is a conclusion and only someone with a sick mind could even think otherwise

Ok people seem to be unable to understand my point.

The media frenzy over the very fragile links to other cases is painting him as a serial killer and seems to be currently over excitable.

The link to MM as I have consistently posted sounds 'promising' and like it could be a (terrible but at least an ending) answer

I have done a screenshot, rather than a clicky link , but this is from the Mail.
What the hell was going on there ? I think an awful lot of things have been covered up.

I agree, Noeuf. He's gone from being a possible suspect to the child catcher. The press need to calm down, back off and let the police do their work. Apparently, he's not talking - well do you blame him in the current hysterical situation? Everyone wants answers, but he's unlikely to talk and even more unlikely to say where her body is, even if he knows. It's like in the UK when a young female is murdered, the Press instantly suggest either Peter Tobin or Christopher Halliwell as the murderer. They are both monsters but they can't be everywhere, all the time.

Regarding Clement Freud, I found it chilling when he reached out to the McCanns and invited them for dinner. He was a paedophile, and it's known that they will get a vicarious thrill from the grief and trauma of a victim's family plus any salacious details he can find out from them. Repulsive man.

The Mail photo of him with a woman just says "A friend" not his girlfriend.

Is being in the same area for three missing children cases a fragile link? I mean I know it’s circumstantial only atm, but it’s quite unlucky of him if it is nothing more than that

There is absolutely no benefit for him (if he’s guilty) in talking at this stage. Particularly if it’s true that he is about to be released in the next few days for his appeal. It would be different if they had him banged to rights and just needed to know where she was. He may be able to secure a shorter sentence by telling them. But right now he gains nothing by talking.

I can’t see him talking either. Why would he? Even if others come forward with stories of what he’s supposedly said to them in the past, it’ll be a case of one word against another. He’s been investigated so many times over the years anyway, his properties and possessions searched, presumably If there were anything concrete as evidence things would have moved forward by now