Madeleine McCann - new suspect

[KatherineJaneway]

A 43-year-old German prisoner who travelled around Portugal in a camper van is now the focus of Scotland Yard's investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52914016]

Also - why should they say sorry to you? How are you affected?

Very true, who should they apologise to, @caperberries ? You?

@knittingaddict nobody is forcing you to quote what I originally posted nor is somebody forcing you to tagg me either clearly you want to strain yourself.
I never made out it wasn’t normal. But a GP and a consultant are quite high positions.... & they are on excellent salaries that’s what I meant to break it down for you in simple terms (they could of paid a nanny). By no means did I say they should be abused for what they did.
But let’s be honest some people commenting on this thread need to ask themselves if they left their child in a hotel room how welcoming would your local neighbours be of you? Everybody has their own opinion.

@Cadent I’m not sure how it worked
at Centre Parcs but standard procedure for Baby Listening used to be a hotel room phone left off the hook and staff on reception listening on the phones or walking down hotel corridors listening out for crying children.

I’m not blaming the parents by the way as I’ve posted earlier up thread asking people to stop this myself.

@NameChange84 no I know you’re not!

Catching the vile human being who did this would make the world a better place. Still abusing the family for a terrible decision does nothing, apart from making a handful of parents feel better about their great parenting.

I agree they made a mistake and probably beat themselves up about it every day. They certainly paid a terrible price for it.
The focus should be on catching the person who took her and finding out what happened. The fault lies with the abductor not the parents .

I would say it's none of my neighbours business.

As I said earlier, I have left my children in a hotel room. I wouldn't do it now, but there are lots of things that we did then and wouldn't do now.

Of course, I don't think that they should apologise to me. How ridiculous Where did I say that?

People were discussing whether it was 'normal parenting practice' to leave children unattended at that time, because the McCanns always maintained that it was normal, responsible parenting.

But it wasn't normal, then or now.

Why is this thread being derailed by people who insist on having their say about the decision to leave the children alone that night? It has all been said thousands of times, no one has a single new or interesting thing to say on the matter

because theres a certain type of person, dim, under-achieving, quite possibly struggling as a parent who really get off on the idea of their superiority to the Mcanns. it gives them a little boost.

Maybe if we refuse to engage with the “id never leave my DC” posts they’ll get bored and stop.

I would imagine it has been and always will be a living hell. Can you imagine spending every day wondering what had happened, what had she suffered?

It's not the leaving alone that bothers me per se, but the fact that the neighbour had said the children were crying for hours on several nights. They still went out each evening though. Kate even said herself Madeleine asked why she hadn't come for her when she was crying. That's really mean to keep going out knowing your kids are frightened. One said she was frequently checking on her own child to see if there was a smell in her baby's gro bag as she'd been ill. 🙁

That sound sensible Smallsteps. It's going nowhere.

Lets hope there's some good news soon and we can put blame where it really belongs.

I actually think it is similar to dining in the back garden. We had an upstairs flat which had a very big garden, probably similar size because the neighbours either side had no fence so it was 3 big gardens together. Anyway I still never went out there when the babies were sleeping.

And yet still, what I would do bears no relevance because I was lucky enough not to be a victim of a child abductor. He did it.

Moving on... I see they’ve found who the call was to. And it wasn’t a girlfriend. He was also linked to a similar abduction in Germany 6 years almost to the day. I think it’s him.

From the latest headlines, the police's announcement seems to be attracting plenty of leads and information, including the person the suspect spoke to on the phone, so that's positive.

What are you expecting people to post. None of us really know. It’s been quite some time and I hope she is found as it’s very tragic. Lots of tragic things are happening daily and some cases haven’t been going on for 13 years

@caperberries

How ridiculous Where did I say that?

As ridiculous as you saying ‘If he'd just said, we were foolish, we made a terrible mistake, people would probably have been much less sceptical’ when in 2007 GMc said to the press: ‘I think it's fair to say the guilt we feel having not been there at that moment will never leave us,"’. (per Noeuf’s post)

@GiantKitten Oh god, that Guardian article. I shouldn't have read it. Is there any way you can retrospectively put a warning on the link? Can you report it to MNHQ?

I didn''t think I was a particularly delicate snowflake but maybe I am.

Where does it say they’ve traced the person on the phone call?

*Daily Mail 2008

He admitted: 'We made a mistake, but we are paying more for it than anyone could ever possibly imagine.'*

Do people feel better pretending they never said this? That they were off 'getting pissed' and didn't give a shit she went missing?

You forget you're not just communicating with people on the same level as you online

His name is Diogo Silva. Can't remember where I read it now. Not Daily Mail, although it may be on there. BBC?

cheerful I know they had a name but it seem to be the Portuguese equivalent of David Smith.

Evening Standard.

Must have found it on an internet search or link on here, as It's not a paper I read.

Knittingaddict they have established that the phone belonged to someone with that name but it's a common name. I don't think they have the particular person it was.

Yes, I don't think they know which Diogo Silva and apparently it's a very common name.

A few years after Madeleine went missing I was on a family holiday similar to Mark Warner and was gobsmacked that so many parents had no idea where on the complex there children were, while said parents sat in the bar, drinking.
The bar opened on to a beach which was accessible to anyone.
Admittedly the children running around were older than Madeleine. From 8 upwards I'd say.