Anti Dementors Party Planners Meet Here

[ThatLibraryMiss]

Wanted to make the new thread quickly to get the link onto the last page of the previous one!

I love F1 so the Grand Prix going ahead is great, not to mention this year is likely to be two GB ones due to canceled races.

Yes plenty of people go to that. About 400,000 people accross the weekend and about 150,000 for the race.

It will be a huge (and I mean huge) cash injection for the local economy as well as all the additional money Silverstone will be able to get.

Hope you feel better soon, Jourdain

Drivingdown because the rules make bugger all sense. There’s a current thread where a poster is being given a hard time for wanting to go with her child meet a friend and her child outside for for a socially distanced picnic. Lots of the usual why are you so special and passive aggressive 🤷‍♀️ . A couple of weeks ago the same posters would have been the ones laying into people for driving short distances or going out for a walk twice a day, but because those things are no longer against the rules they can’t.

Hope you feel better soon Jourdain.

I don't want to go to shops if it is going to be under so many rules, buying school shoes will be a nightmare if they have to adhere to the 72 hour rule. It is ridiculous, I've been able to wander around Tesco etc clothing sections and do the hell I like and now we have all this new stuff to contend with. I'm sick of this shit.

Interesting the Guardian reports on how lockdown school is positive and pupils don't want it to end due to low numbers etc, bit of a change from their last article

www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/26/tiktok-and-a-shoulder-to-cry-on-why-pupils-in-gloucestershire-wish-lockdown-school-would-never-end

Weeds I loved your poetry yesterday.

Lilac Ignore and carry on posting here.

Jourdain I hope you feel better later on. I find it really refreshing reading your posts. My mum has just finished strong chemo for a similar cancer and she's truly terrified of having me or DS anywhere near her. She let us sit in her garden with her inside last week but has worried we've 'given her something' since so has asked us not to go again. It's quite depressing and then I feel guilty for not understanding the fear properly.

Yesterday we broke the rules. We met my best friend for a socially distanced walk which was fine but DS didn't want to sit in the park (too sunny, no shade) so we ended up coming home and I persuaded my friend to sit at the bottom of my garden instead. It was lovely except we could smell a neighbours bbq and I was very jealous! It honestly smelled amazing. I really need to set mine up.

It's lovely to see that more and more people are becoming positive again and the doom merchants are not getting the feedback that they crave and love so much...

A light at the end of the tunnel

Yippee

What's the 72h thing?

Out local M&S apparently part of its clothing and homeware sections open, with no special restriction in place apart from keep 2 meters and screens up at the checkouts. DH went last week and bought all sorts of rubbish some nonessential items.

Just seen this joy on local site

Enforce the law! cyclist and skateboarders off the pavement. For those of us oracularly challenged and chronic anxiety the current situation in tantamount to death due to living in constant fear not of the virus but selfish lawbreaking selfish people who have NO REGARD for COMMUNITY or cohesive relationships with others.

Payment of road tax, insurance by law and adherence to the LAW by having an audible BELL and lights after dark!

I have a bicycle - gave up after watching illegal practices and being bullied and threatened by “Lycra yobs” of ALL ages when trying to enjoy a peaceful pastime.

@bakingcupcakes I think there is an element that, if it's difficult to distance, you get less worried about it. Realistically, I can't isolate from my 3 Primary School DC within a not-particularly-large flat with no garden. Once you accept that you have to do it, it is easier to deal with mentally! I can imagine that for someone like your mum, who doesn't have to, making a choice to be "not safe" is difficult. Especially when everyone carries on like you're likely to catch it off the post or from popping into the supermarket (when I think both these things are statistically unlikely!).

Little Obviously I don’t know how old your dc is, but if they’re still in Startrite sizes and you have a printer, you can print off a paper measuring gauge which is a little bit fiddly but pretty good. We ordered some new shoes for DS with this as his feet grew too, and he only had a pair of Crocs that fit him - useless on the stony farm tracks around here, the poor boy was collecting half a hundredweight of hardcore every time we tried to go for a walk.

Oh and actually if you don’t have a printer I think you can get them to send you a free one in the post.

The new shopping rules are ridiculous, if that is what is being proposed.

I really don't see the logic in closing changing rooms. So if I buy something, I would potentially take it home, try it on a few times, then have to make another journey back to return it if it doesn't fit. Thus exposing more people to my deadly germs.

Or I could just try it on quickly in a changing room and try not to lick the mirror or anything while I was in there.

It will be less hassle just to carry on ordering things online. This will not save/revive the high street at all.

And quarantining returns for 72hours? Wtf? They don't tell us to quarantine our supermarket shopping (although I know half of mumsnet seems to, as well as dousing everything in bleach ) so why the need to quarantine returns? Bonkers!

Police stopped 12 Japanese tourists who were taking pics in Conwy said they spoke to them. Well maybe they should have put them back on the plane someone said.

Why are we so far behind them in rules around seeing family and friends?

This is exactly why I'm ignoring the stupid rules now. I don't want to go to a garden centre, I don't want to play golf, I don't want to queue up outside WH Smith's, I just want to see my friends and family. So bugger it.

Spanish gov been tweeting emojis of sunglasses and saying country is open for holidays

Not sure why not much dementoring about these other countries swinging from extreme lockdown to this whereas here is being more cautious

Those masks with windows are weird. As much as I hate masks, at least I can focus on the eyes while my ears and brain try to decipher the mumbling. With those masks you still lose a lot of facial expression and can't work out what to focus on. They would still muffle the sound anyway.

I'd bet they give DS1 the heebie jeebies. He can'y cope with masks or facepaint as it ruins all the cues that he manually reads. He loathes Halloween.

@orangeblossom78 I assume the summer tourism is so absolutely critical for Spain that they're willing to take the risk? Whereas it's less important for us to have everything ready for a summer season economically

Not sure why not much dementoring about these other countries swinging from extreme lockdown to this whereas here is being more cautious

It's all so much better on the continent

Surely those masks with windows steam up anyway? My glasses steam up if wear a mask, I’ll only wear one if it’s a condition because of the glasses issue.

Closing the changing rooms is smart. Online shopping has shown that when you can't try on things turnover increases. Plus when you have to go back to return something you may see something else to try and thus the cycle continues.

For large companies the critical metric is turnover and cash flow, especially for the supply chain . If that's good then profit isn't as important. You can last a long time without profit.

For a high street that has been absolutely hammered (even before this started) the cash flow will absolutely critical to ensuring that large companies stay in business.

(also changing rooms being small enclosed spaces with hard surfaces and curtains that are rarely (never) cleaned probably are pretty good at spreading stuff)

But it's not as dumb as it sounds.

MIL keeps going on about us rebooking our flights to Spain as they’re open to tourism from July. I dunno... I reckon it would be weird to not be allowed in my mums house (who lives round the corner) but allowed to fly 1000’s of miles to stay at their house for 2 weeks, visit SIL etc then fly back and still not be allowed to go to my mums

'It's simple, isolate and live, or socialise and die!'

This makes me want to howl with laughter. I am imagining it being said by Taika Waititi dressed as Hitler. And I'm sorry to anyone who is feeling very frightened of the virus. It has been frightening. But bearing in mind it kills maybe 0.5% of people who get it, this is just bloody bonkers. Why don't we have the same message about driving cars or using hoovers or mingling with others in winter when there's a bad flu year.

'DON'T HOOVER AND LIVE OR HOOVER AND DIE!!!!' I'm sure hoovers injure people every year. (Actually, I googled and the first link that came up was 'penile injuries from vacuum cleaners I am not clicking on it! Apparently they do serious damage)

Jourdain I'm sorry things are so rough. I can't imagine what it feels like waiting for the next round of news. So glad you have your children back though.

Thank you for the support everyone. I do feel much better today. I find the isolation so hard. I am such an introvert who doesn't do well around people for long stretches but I am still finding this brutally hard. I hope getting out later today will make things feel much easier. I think shops opening are going to be really weird! I can't even think of one I'd like to visit. I'd kill for a Macdonalds though which is hilarious as I've eaten about twice there in 10 years.

Morning lovely people!

@Jourdain hope you feel a bit better soon.

@lilac great to see you back. Please stay and don't let the bastards grind you down!

I am so not arsed about opening shops. I am doing a click and collect for the vast majority of stuff, and a quick whip round for anything else (usually in Lidl). I have bought a few items of clothes online. Our local nurseries are doing well with plant/compost delivery. I don't want to go to a car showroom or an outdoor market.

What I would like is for us to be able to go to the park and play, which was do my dcs a power of good or to meet up with my best friend (and it be officially 'allowed'). I can understand the economic aspects of it all, and know we need to do it, but saying nothing about the social side of it seems arse about face. And encourages people to say sod it and do these things anyway. But maybe that's what they want.

Oh and you know what's crazy? I have a friend who is working in France. He's decided he's done with being stuck in so has planned a holiday for himself. From tomorrow he is going to be staying in several different airbnbs in Wales - he's driving there having taken the train over to King's Cross and has found several places which are very relaxed about putting him up. He's thinking of going to Cornwall too and again there there are plenty of people happy to rent somewhere to him. It's so bonkers. I did warn him he might face some hostility if he tells people he's come over on holiday. It has made me sorely tempted to do similar but it feels so taboo. He's been strictly quarantining so is v unlikely to be spreading it around.