Would you go to a bbq this weekend?

[Munkeyface]

Friends have invited us over. We have early teen children who know all about 2 metre rule.
Friends have a large garden and a outdoor loo so no need to go into their house at all.

Also live in a rural position with no close neighbours.

I don’t mind following rules but they have to have logic. I don’t understand why I can go to a supermarket but I cannot sit 2m apart in an outdoor space.

In the supermarket the amount of time you are exposed to another person is minimal. I think the tracking app being trialled in Isle of Wight triggers if you are within 2m for more than 3 minutes (of a person who subsequently develops symptoms). In the supermarket I don't think I am close to anyone for more than a few seconds, apart from the queue to get in.

At a barbeque you are going to be with people for multiples of 3 minutes. If you were next to someone for 2 hours and they subsequently developed symptoms, your potential exposure is 40 times the exposure that would trigger the app. Never mind the potential additional exposure of everyone touching the barbeque tongs, or the toilet flush..

One exposure is a small level of risk, increase the exposures and you're going to increase the risk. Hopefully that's logical enough

And I agree with everything that Pipandmum said I think one of the health advisors, early on, said social distancing and alcohol don't mix.

No it's windy as hell here. Can't think of anything worse than being buffeted around whilst trying to eat.

No.

No!!

No unless you are not eating their food, having drinks passed to you or sharing this outside loo with anyone outside your own household. Against a current advice of you are doing those things.

thewinkingprawn

I definitely would. We shall be enjoying a bbq with grandparents and then seeing friends for similar. All in the garden. I think it’s time everyone started to get a grip about the actual risk you young, fit healthy people.“

That’s not the issue really, is it. Young, fit, healthy people pass it on to older, not so fit, not so healthy people. Like grandparents. At a BBQ.

What have you decided @Munkeyface ?

You're awfully quiet!!!

TSSDNCOP

Well if Dominic Cummings can break the rules why should they expect everyone else to have to stick to them?

So because he deliberately put people and his close family at risk, you want to do the same?
One persons idiotic behaviour doesn’t justify everyone else immediately throwing caution to the wind.

But Dominic did it!
If Dominic told you to play chicken on the M6, would you?

All the people saying ‘no’ are quoting ‘because it’s against the rules’
Lots of people blindly following the rules without questioning the logic or thinking behind them and no risk assessment done.

Interesting thread and I do think if you’d have asked this question a few weeks ago there would have been many more people saying ‘no way’

But we are being given conflicting advice. Go to work, sit on a bus, sit in an office, use a shared toilet, send your kids back to school. But no you can’t sit in a garden with friends. More people are questioning the logic of this, using their common sense and make their own risk assessment.

School and work are necessary. Socialising isn’t. It’s a question of limiting the number of opportunities the virus has to latch on to new hosts.
Not exactly rocket science, is it?

That is currently not allowed. 2m rule ok, but what about the chairs, plates and cups, people will have touched them and passed them to you. Then you touch them and pass them back.

Admit I'm not that keen on bbqs either!

The fact you're a key worker makes it worse to be honest!

BBQ tomorrow. Still undecided. Husband keen.

Crack on then. If you get ill, you get ill

No

No.

• No unless you are not eating their food, having drinks passed to you or sharing this outside loo with anyone outside your own household. Against a current advice of you are doing those things.”

How is this different to doing to a takeaway and using a public loo somewhere )m(at work, service station etc.) or Doing to the supermarket which tens of millions of people are doing everyday?

The risk is so minuscule - people can love in the same house for weeks with someone who didn’t even know they had Covid and not contact it - that these “rules” are all getting a bit stupid.

We need to crack on with life and infect as many people as possible before winter comes round. Most of you have probably had it or willl get it and never notice anyway. Like the BBC medical correspondent who just had a positive antibody test but wasn’t aware he had had it

Did you go OP?

No from me, but its because one of our household is shielded and we just cannot take any risks.

I wouldn't object to my neighbours doing it, as long as they remained distanced.

I bet she went.

No, assuming they will be preparing all food. Why risk it. I'm currently 34 weeks pregnant though, so probably over thinking it all.

Yes.