Keir Starmer wins

[Clawdy]

New leader. Good news, but wish Lisa Nandy could have been deputy.

But his team is really awful, so he hasn't got a hope in hell of beating the Conservatives in a GE, particularly while the Tories have all the political heavyweights.

his team is really awful

Who do you mean by his team? Who is awful in it?

Well i suppose we don't know who is in it yet, but I cant think of a single political heavyweight in the Labour party atm. And Angela rayner is dreadful, but I am not a Labour supporter.

He just needs to continue to look like PM material

This is so important. In an ideal world, it wouldn’t be so important that Labour leaders look and sound the part of a credible PM in the mind of the average voter, but we have to be realistic.

Yes agree

He may be a little wooden as a pp put it but this could work in his favour. A contrast to what some see as Johnson’s buffoon image and the mistrust.

I find it disappointing that he has spoken out about the antisemitism but has not spoken out about the foul misogyny of the woke brigade - those who think women prisoners should be locked up with men cos the men want it that way.

This is the party which this week rejected a membership application from Karen Ingala Smith - feminist campaigner who has played a massive role in highlighting the epidemic of violence against women. This is who Labour turn away. Keir said nothing

I hope he was biding his time and securing the leadership first but I’m not hopeful. Angela Rayner does not help matters.

It will be many a long year before I can vote for them again.

I voted for him because he was the most likely to win a general election. Now he needs to get rid of everybody who isn't helping to do that.

Well i suppose we don't know who is in it yet, but I cant think of a single political heavyweight in the Labour party atm.
I think there are credible figures on the backbench but they have either been sidelined during the Corbyn era or refused to serve in his cabinet. Hopefully now more will come to the fore and not too many have list their jobs.

while the Tories have all the political heavyweights

Really? I don't call Johnson, Patel, Hancock, Raab, Rees-Mogg heavy weights. The exception seems to be Sunak who is rising to the occasion. If they have any other heavyweights, Johnson has kept them out of the way on the backbenches.

If we could have Sunak and Starmer up it would be great for UK.

Alexander de pfeifel Boris Johnson, eton toff- that'll do well with the working classes

And where the fuck has this myth come from that Brexit was overwhelmingly some working class thing? load of bollocks. It was a result, as usual with politics in this country, of rich home counties men with hard prostates

It was a result, as usual with politics in this country, of rich home counties men with hard prostates

Yes, the recent census found that they made up 52% of the population. It was a real shock to the social scientists!

I had to laugh at the hard prostates! How do you know this?

Really? I don't call Johnson, Patel, Hancock, Raab, Rees-Mogg heavy weights.

To be fair, you also support a party that could fit all of its MPs in a minibus, so maybe the evaluation of power politics isn’t quite your bag?

ohh you naïve thing, you still think it had anything to do with the 52% who voted.

nor do you seem aware that more than one demographic can make it into a percentage

I am not sure that they asked about prostates on the census. Maybe they will during the next one?

This is great news. I can now vote labour.

Oh come on Cendrillon, instead of slagging off the other parties, tell us who the Tory heavyweights are.

I have given you one in Sunak. I also think that Julian Smith, who did a good job as N I Sec of State in the 5 minutes he was allowed to do the job, was another.

I was just wishing that the runner-up could be deputy. But now I see Lisa wasn't runner-up!

She's at least as bad as RLB. She's promised to allow rapists to choose to spend their terms in women's prisons and to expel feminists from the Labour party.

I've watched many interviews with her, all she does is spout platitudes.

Most of the Tory heavyweights, or even medium-weights, stood down at thet last election: Ken Clarke, Philip Hammond, Oliver Letwin, Justine Greening, Alan Duncan etc.

To be honest, there aren't many experienced MPs to choose from on either side. I'm hoping Yvette Cooper and Hilary Benn will be brought back to the Labour front bench.

Time to move forward from four wasted years under Corbyn and co and allowing so many nasty people having control over the party

I would have liked Lisa Nandy to be deputy

I shall be voting Labour again

I'm not sure being deputy is that big a deal - arguably shadow Chancellor, Home Secretary or Foreign Secretary are more significant jobs.

Ken Clarke would have gone anyway, because he had already said he planned to stand down at the next election in 2015, and then May called her election so he carried on. The rest of them should have had many years Parliamentary service ahead of them.