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Keir Starmer wins

151 replies

Clawdy · 04/04/2020 10:56

New leader. Good news, but wish Lisa Nandy could have been deputy.

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1forsorrow · 04/04/2020 12:09

Glad I joined, hope my vote helped. I voted for Dr Allin-Khan as deputy but just glad we got the right leader.

DippyAvocado · 04/04/2020 12:17

Ahhhh the man of the people...

The knighted millionaire socialist arch remainer...

He'll do extraordinarily well with the working class ...

Like millionaire man of the people, Boris Johnson?

Tonyaster · 04/04/2020 12:19

He was the best of a bad bunch, but Labour are really an irrelevance now and will be for 10 years.

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/04/2020 12:20

Thank goodness. A grownup has entered the room.

GinnyStrupac · 04/04/2020 12:22
  1. He needs to get rid of the anti-semitics, the misogynists, and firmly sideline Momentum. That's just to begin with.
  2. After the thread title, my mind wants to call him Fire Starter, rather than Keir Starmer.
MarshaBradyo · 04/04/2020 12:23

‘ Labour are really an irrelevance now and will be for 10 years.’

Will be interesting to see. A big recession soon won’t help Cons.

ChipotleBlessing · 04/04/2020 12:24

People describing Rayner and Nandy as Corbyn clones or Corbyn numpties clearly know fuck all about them or the politics of the Labour Party.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 04/04/2020 12:31

He'll do extraordinarily well with the working class ...

He comes from a working class background, unlike the current PM.

It seems some people (of all classes) can't bear the thought of a working class boy rising to the top through brains and hard work.

Tonyaster · 04/04/2020 12:33

I think he's pretty good, a bit wooden maybe. But Labour are in such a mess, and his team is weak. BJ is a bit of a twat but his team.is excellent.

MarshaBradyo · 04/04/2020 12:44

Cons are better at messages and media

Labour need some better brains there to aid Starmer

MarshaBradyo · 04/04/2020 12:47

Campbell was useful for Blair maybe ask him back

JuneFromBethesda · 04/04/2020 12:49

Cons are better at messages and media

If you mean glib soundbites and empty promises, absolutely.

I'm delighted Starmer won. Finally we'll have a functioning opposition to challenge this shitshow of a government.

SentimentalKiller · 04/04/2020 12:49

Lisa Nandy who said male rapists who identify as women should be place in women's prisons? Why would you want her as deputy?
I hope he knows what a woman is

MarshaBradyo · 04/04/2020 12:50

June yes for sure but they work unfortunately

TheGinGenie · 04/04/2020 12:50

Agree completely with @buffalocauliflower

I think it's good to have a mix with leader and deputy to appeal more widely. Diversity is good for getting a range of ideas too.

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 04/04/2020 12:51

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TheGinGenie · 04/04/2020 12:51

I'm a big Corbyn supporter who also voted for Starmer - it's not mutually exclusive, it's a case of deciding what you want depending on the circumstances

MarshaBradyo · 04/04/2020 12:51

I’m pro Keir btw but Labour have to recognise their weaknesses which includes being too opaque and cumbersome

Hoppinggreen · 04/04/2020 12:52

I have never voted Labour in 30 years and I wood now consider it for the first time, as long as he can keep the woke brigade under control

Hoppinggreen · 04/04/2020 12:53

Would now consider it

Icare1234 · 04/04/2020 12:57

Yes it was recorded so no challenge but his acceptance speech was calm and I feel set the right tone.

BuffaloCauliflower · 04/04/2020 13:01

@WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS can you elaborate on what you mean specifically by ‘credulous ideology’?

BuffaloCauliflower · 04/04/2020 13:03

@beautifulteeth he was born in South London to a tradesman and a nurse. He worked hard and did well for himself, as many do, doesn’t negate that he has a working class background

BackseatCookers · 04/04/2020 13:30

He'll do extraordinarily well with the working class ...

How patronising.

Working class upbringing in my house and funnily enough we enjoy seeing working class people work hard to become successful.

We want that to inspire our kids to have aspirations and not feel they have totally limited choices. Many do have limited choices due to the imbalance of opportunity in our society and poverty.

I have more confidence in someone who has grafted to get to where KS is wanting to change that and give the next generation more opportunities, more choices and less limitations than someone who has been very privileged and had a headstart in life. I don't begrudge people who have had that kind of luck, it's just circumstance and luck of the draw. I'm not bitter.

I just don't think they have the understanding of the experience of huge swathes of the population and therefore don't understand how the imbalance and poverty gap affects people.

Your comment implies working class people are unable to view success as aspirational and feel proud of people from our background who do fucking well for themselves.

My journey has been from an unlucky start in life, to foster care to running a successful business and my friends and family from the estate I grew up in are proud of "one of our own" grafting to get somewhere.

As a feminist I am proud when a woman is very successful. As someone with my background and start in life I am proud of when someone with similar roots is very successful.

You're basically saying that all working class people are bitter about other people's success and don't want people to smash the challenges faced by the massive numbers of working class people.

You're wrong.

Peregrina · 04/04/2020 14:57

He has a bit of time before the next election I reckon he can do it.

I think he could too. He just needs to continue to look like PM material and keep letting Johnson carry on behaving like a buffoon.

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