Welsh chat thread?

[picklesdragonisawelshdragon]

Bore da!
Sut wyt ti heddiw?

Dwi'n dysgu Cymraeg.
I'm very bad, to be fair. Grew up in S.Wales before Welsh was brought back.

A fyddai unrhyw un yn hoffi ymuno â mi?

Don’t worry about mutations though, the main thing is you recognised the word.

Rwy wedi ymuno a mumsnet am y tro cyntaf just I ddarllen a phostio yma. Diolch o'r gallon I bawb syn's cyfrannu! Rwy'n rhugl yn y Cymraeg, one wedi'm addysgu trwy Saesneg (doedd dim ysgolion cyfrwng Cynraeg yma at y pryd (rwy'n hen!). Byw yng Nghymoedd y De. Cafodd fy mhlentyn ei addysgu trwy'r Cymraeg yn yr ysgol, mae'n byw yn Lloegr nawr ac yn colli'r iaith :( Hapus I helpu ynrhuw un sy'n dysgu.

Bore da! I grew up in South Wales & did learn some basic Welsh at school Dydw I ddim yn hoffi coffi but I've recently started trying to improve using Duolingo & I'm surprised by how hard I'm finding it. They obviously teach a different version to my school Welsh so it's rather confusing! E.g. Duolingo teaches "AGnu dw i" whereas school taught me to say "AGnu ydw i". Subtle differences but enough to confuse my brain when I've not studied Welsh for nearly 20 years but thought I had a good grasp of the basics!

I'd like to move back to Wales at some point in the future but I'd be taking my English DH & DCs with me. Thought it would be a good idea to brush up on my Welsh so I can help them adjust. I'd love the DC to be bilingual & am investigating Welsh-medium schools. If we moved to France they'd have to adjust so I figure it's no different!

Helo! Saesneg - dw i'n dysgu Cymraeg yn Hampshire.

Don't worry about mutations? They're the most confusing bit of learning Welsh!

Croeso Hela! Diolch!
Diolch Seren- mutations, fascinating. I'm going to ignore them now I know what they are. I'll save them for later!

Rwy'n falch o weld pobl ar duolingo! diolch i chi gyd!

Bore da! Siaradwr Gymraeg yma hefyd!
Hyfryd I weld siwd gymaint o dysgwyr yma xx

@picklesdragonisawelshdragon
Mutations aren't easy. The mutation depends on the letter that precedes it.

Wales = Cymru
to Wales = i Gymru (vowel that isn't a)
in Wales = yng Nghymru (consonant n)
and Wales = a Chymru. (a)

If you went to Chester (Caer) yesterday, you'd say 'Es i Gaer ddoe.
If you were in Chester yesterday, you would say " Roeddwn yng Nghaer ddoe'. If you said ' Roeddwn yn Gaer ddoe' , the person you were talking to would hear ' I was a fortress yesterday'

a affects p and t too.
Adults and children = Oedolion a phlant
Cup (cwpan) and teapot (tebot) = cwpan a thebot.

Gwych! Diolch, Mam!

I'm making so many mistakes on Duolingo. I've forgotten so much. Hey ho.

hwyl am nawr

P'nawn Da. I realised it might more convenient if I'd posted bilingually (and also if I could spell and type) I'm a fluent Welsh speaker, educated in English medium (as I am old and there were no Welsh medium schools in my area then). I live in the South Wales Valleys area. My child was educated Welsh medium, even though his Dad doesn't speak it. He went on to FE in Scotland and England, so didn't hold him back in anyway. Unfortunately having lived in England for a while now he's losing the language. I'm happy to help any learners here. Da bo, hwyl am y tro.
Hela

The thing that is most difficult about mutations is that when you're first learning, it means you don't even know where to look up a word. (I did have a learner's dictionary that would point you at brecwast when you looked up frecwast, though.) I have absorbed them enough that I now know what the original stem word is, but I still make a million mistakes actually using them - whether I should be using a mutation in this place, and if so, which type. OTOH, I sometimes make mistakes in English, especially with speaking, if I change my mind about how to say something half way through and end up rephrasing. So speaking perfectly every single time isn't completely natural even when fluent.

Noswaith dda bawb. Dwi heb wylio Pobol y Cwm ers rhai blynyddoedd. Roeddwn yn arfer gwylio gyda fy mam - buodd hi farw tair blynedd yn ol. Gwnes I wylio neithiwr a theimlo hiraeth ar ol Mam! Byddaf yn gwylio eto henoserch hynny.

S'mae! mae hiraeth yn air gwych. Dwi erioed wedi gwylio pobol y cwm

I can't see what I'm typing/copy pasting, my iPad's playing up.

Dw i wedi blino. Mae fy mab yn gwneud cacen.

Dwi isio cacen rwan.

felly ydw i!

Paid becso am mutations! Don't worry about them.
Even 1st language siaradwyr get them wrong, so don't be afraid or put off by them.
Siarad ac ymarfer sy'n bwysig.
Wwww dw i'n caru siarad Cymraeg at Fymsnet 😂

AR Fymsnet, nid at, twpsyn dw i!

Dwi bwyta cecen.

Helo holl siaradwyr Cymraeg Mamsnet . Dwi'n Gymraeg iaith gyntaf yn enedigol o Gaerdydd ond wedi bod yn byw yn y canolbarth ers 10 mlynedd. Braf cael gweld gymaint yn rhoi tro ar ddysgu'r iaith.

Rhywun arall sy'n gwylio Pobl y Cwm! Hwre.

Mae llawer o siaradwyr Cymraeg yn fy ardal. Fi'n dod o'r Cymoedd yn wreiddiol hefyd.

Mae DD yn mynd I ysgol Gymraeg ond es i ddim.

Dwi'n ymdopi at lafar - ysgrifennu sy'n anodd I fi achos does dim lot o gyfle I ymarfer.

rwy'n falch bod hyn yn dda i siaradwyr Cymraeg hefyd

Bore da!

Rwy'n bwyta uwd i frecwast. beth amdanoch chi?

And is there a rule for that R instead of a D?

Bore da pawb. Sut dach chi heddiw? Sut mae twywdd? Mae'n gwyntog yma a mae'n bwrw glaw. Dwi'n hapus achos does na ddim rhaid i mi mynd allan. Dwi'n hoffwn medru siarad am rhybeth yn fyw diddorol, ond dydw'n ddim gallu siarad yn ddigon dda. Os dach chi gwrando ar lot o Gymraeg y treigliadau dechra swnia yn iawn. Sori am y gamgymeriadau. Dwi'n lwcis achos dwi'n byw mewn ardal Cymraeg iawn.

Bore da pawb hyfryd I weld gymaint o siaradwyr cymraeg
Dw I yn wreiddiol o'r gorllewin ac yn siaradwr iaith gyntaf.
Husband is English so we speak English at home but the DC's have all been educated through the medium of welsh and are fluent
Keep nagging the other half to learn