Tories please tell me the positives

[Mrsemcgregor]

I have to admit I’m feeling pretty bleak this morning, but I recognise that I am living in a left wing echo chamber.

I would really appreciate your views on why the result is good and how our country will improve. Please tell me how the NHS and schools and vulnerable people will be protected.

I’m not being goady, I would honestly really appreciate some positivity.

Labour voter here - I've been looking for positives to cheer myself up.

I see the FTSE 100 is up - that has to be a good thing - even if you have no investments personally, it will be good for businesses if it continues the upward trend - less likelihood of big firms making cuts and redundancies. Will also benefit many private pensions.

Not happy about the result at all, but trying to make the best of it.

Free broadband, the 4 day week etc etc were daft policies that I really don’t think anyone would have been persuaded by.

I think for me this really cemented how totally out of touch with reality that labour was to even put them as a policy. If they are that daft (I'm taking about the party not voters) then why on earth would I vote for them to run the country.

The only positive for me is that Corbyn will be stepping down so my pro Leave, Tory voting father in law will hopefully have to search harder for something to hate the leader of the Labour Party with than 'he's a friend of the IRA'

They were crazy policies and obviously very few people were persuaded by them! But Labour must have believed they could achieve them or they wouldn't have been in the manifesto. The alternative is that Labour had no intention of implementing them and were therefore lying.

Labour seemed batshit crazy to me - declaring that the NHS needed huge injections of cash because of Tory cuts and then promising free broadband for everyone.

@Mrsemcgregor Well done on being proactive!

The pound has fallen today.

There was a surge when the exit poll was announced, and now it's dropping again.

But my heart breaks for all those teachers, nurses, police officers and other public sector workers

And what makes you think they will be better off under Labour?

twosoups - they will just have to live with less than 5% pay increases going forwards. Its manageable, i've had less than 5% and less than inflation increases for about 10 years in private sector

Everyone just wants things which cannot happen at the same time.

People cheer when the tax-free allowance goes up by £500, not realising that is £500 less per person going into the NHS - so they may have to spend that £500 on private counselling or physio.

@thehorseandhisboy the pound would have expected to fall slightly against after a sharp rise as it will have been sold to make the most of the highest value for 19 months expect it to level out at about 1.21 then possibly raise to about 1.25 after Jan

Hopefully the fact that Boris has such a large majority will mean that we will have a softer Brexit, he isn’t so dependent on the ERG loons and be more of a liberal conservative ie his time as Mayor of London.

dreamingofsun you DO realise public sector workers haven’t had such pay rises ..well ever ...don’t you?

I worked as a nurse for 30 years and I certainly never saw such a pay rise except with promotion.

Anyone who thinks public sector workers are getting such huge pay rises every year needs to look again. They don’t and haven’t.

And some nurses earning a so called good salary are using food banks as their housing costs are so high. THAT is an issue not your imaginary pay rises which don’t happen.

twosoups - they will just have to live with less than 5% pay increases going forwards.

Hahahaha! Eleven years in the public sector and the most I've ever had - under Labour - was just under 3%. This year's is 1.5% and that is in recognition of the last few years of either nothing (pay freeze) or 1%.

In fact I've just worked out that in real terms I'm around £1300 p.a. worse off.

they will get Brexit done
they can add up & realise you actually have to pay for things
tax will not be a stupid rate
they can work out how to put their shoes on the correct feet

Scratching my head over this.

My main plus for the Tories and Brexit will be more non-EU workers coming over. I like working with Indian and Chinese nationalities, so that's one positive for me.

I don't trust Boris one bit (especially after the nursing number blunder), so I reserve judgement on their manifesto promises.

Silver lining: the Tories will pass the WA and we'll be into the transition period. That means we can move to the EU and be legally allowed to stay. Then when the transition period ends, all the Leave/Tory voters will get what they so badly want and deserve. (Sadly a lot of innocent people will also suffer from continued austerity and from the economic fallout of leaving the single market, but I'm trying to stay positive.)

For me I had the following reasons for voting Tory:

Brexit uncertainty. I was a remain voter but the longer this has gone on the more our economy has suffered. Putting the UK to another referendum wasn't going to speed recovery if labour had their way.

Nationalisation. I have a good but very expensive rail service that I rely on to get to work. I'm old enough to remember British rail and it was awful. I'd rather carry on paying for a private operator who does a good job.

Free Wi-fi promised by labour. I pay for super fast because I need it to work from home regularly. Nationalising could mean everyone gets the same but nobody pays for that. In my view that means a drop in competitive service levels that give you good service if you're willing to pay for it.

Tax - I pay high taxes in a well paid job. If labour got in my view was that they'd make it harder for me to get to work, harder to work from home and tax me more. No incentive for me there.

Also from what I could see the majority of the labour electoral promises had very senior economists shaking with fear. It just didn't seem viable from any perspective.

I don't agree with current poverty levels or the millions who are struggling to survive. But from what I could see labour were heading towards bankrupting the country so I've been very selfish

Dollyparton3 thanks for that.

I agree that yet another referendum wasn't the way forward, and think that would have caused further damage in lots of ways.

But what does 'getting Brexit done' actually mean?

Johnson or whoever he appoints has a year to negotiate trade agreements with countries which it took the EU years to reach agreements with.

Given that he couldn't face Andrew Neil and hid in a fridge to avoid Piers Morgan, I hope that he puts someone else up for the job.

This is clearly a ridiculously optimistic time scale.

If agreements aren't established, then... Well, then....

amd so that wasn't really a positive was it?

@Pinkyyy you clearly haven't a clue how badly schools have been affected under the Tories. It's terrible.

This is a really interesting thread. Thanks, OP. and those who have contributed.

@Flatwhite32 I know extremely well actually.

@Dollyparton3 Quite a number of economists were doing quite the opposite of quaking in their boots www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae

Or are the likes of David Blanchflower and Simon Wren-Lewis not senior enough for you?

Good @Pinkyyy, so why vote for them?