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I feel sick and truly apprehensive about the future

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MyGhastIsFlabbered · 13/12/2019 06:21

Anyone else devastated by the election result? Please can someone tell me it'll be ok?

And please no Tory gloating, I've seen enough of that on FB.

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BillHadersNewWife · 13/12/2019 08:10

OneHundred and I used to say...when I was younger and struggling..."Well it's ok, there's no workhouses anymore!" all amused by my own humour...because my Nan who was born in 1910 used to tell me about the fear of the workhouse that was in all working families' hearts. The absolute terror of ending up there because once you did it was almost impossible to improve on your life.

DonKeyshot · 13/12/2019 08:11

"Some may find it better, some may find it worse" because our lives have ups as well as downs, BillHadersNewWife, and my "Life as we know it will carry on" was made without any specific reference to politics.

Wakaranaihito · 13/12/2019 08:12

I am worried because the cuts haven't ended. Millions more coming down the line for Councils.

I agree that Momentum/Corbyn left have done this to themselves with their righteousness and name calling. No one is ever pure enough for them.

I just don't see an end to the ever growing army of homeless, the waits for GP appointments and cancer treatments.

Next December we will be hitting another brick wall as it turns out they haven't negotiated a trade deal and we will be looking at crashing out of the EU. This isn't over. It's only the beginning.

Looking at moving to Europe over the next couple of years, taking our business with us.

All because the left wing parties politics can't pull together and Labour won't push for proportional representation.

Iggly · 13/12/2019 08:13

I am worried because the cuts haven't ended. Millions more coming down the line for Councils

Yep.

People will wonder why the streets aren’t being cleaned, why bins are collected once a month, why street lights are being dimmed.

It’s because the Tories have taken money away from local authorities and it won’t end.

girlofthenorth · 13/12/2019 08:15

@WellErrr
The Conservatives have stated clearly and unequivocally, many times, that the NHS is not, nor will it ever be, for sale. This isn’t something they’re a bit cagey or evasive about, they’ve been very clear.

70% of community services have already been sold

MIdgebabe · 13/12/2019 08:16

If you want services like nhs and education, you need money, that needs taxes, and the people who have more should pay more.

If you haven't got enough in the bank to pay for the services you want and don't want to raise taxes You could try austerity, and hope that all those lovey rich people turn things around for you , although not clear what you hope to achieve as the trickle down concept has been disproven,

Most rich people on incomes of 80 k a year are happy spending it on houses and holidays abroad, not investing in companies and creating jobs

So your option is raise taxes or do something we know doesn't work.

MIdgebabe · 13/12/2019 08:16

the nhs is not for sale

Guess that means it's already been sold. The deals are done

breastfeeding · 13/12/2019 08:17

life as we know it will carry on

That’s ok if you’re doing fine, or even just scraping by.
What if you’re not ......
What if you’re cold tired and hungry. Missing meals so your children can eat, so that the food bank parcel goes further?
Looking over your shoulder terrified you’ll get caught for the miserable little cash in hand jobs you do so you can afford some Christmas presents for your children ?

Iggly · 13/12/2019 08:19

the nhs is not for sale

Ok. Let me put this another way

Healthcare services will be for sale. They have already been outsourced in many areas and this will continue.

The NHS will be a conduit for funnelling taxpayers money into the private sector.

Iwantacookie · 13/12/2019 08:20

I'm scared to. My dp is disabled so boris and his cronies think we are the scum of the earth and my times as a single parent means my dc are apparently mugging old ladies.
Yes I'm fucking terrified!
I'm actually shocked so many people are ok with the state of the country as it is?
I'm assuming there is ALOT of I'm alright Jack mentality Sad

Peregrina · 13/12/2019 08:20

It will be fine. Life as we know it will carry on.

Ho hum. Like Hitler's Germany was fine for very many people, until you overlook the Jews forced into exile with their property sequestered and then the 6 million murdered. Oh yes, it was fine for some.

Great result, let's get going, hope they do some infrastructure building down our way. We've had nothing for decades.

It will be more than ok, more nurses and funding for the nhs, mental health, police, education, etc and the end of austerity,

I will believe that when I see it.

breastfeeding · 13/12/2019 08:20

And , to be honest the very large group I assume that probably all voted for Brexit as they remember ‘it was ok before the EU!’ Will all be dead within a decade but leave their legacy and we’ll have such good border control the country will be emptier so public services will be less stretched ......but then ......who will want to do all the jobs people come here to do ? It’s not going to work

SlayBellsRing · 13/12/2019 08:20

I would have been a lot more worried if Labour won with it's dire manifesto.

Equanimitas · 13/12/2019 08:21

The Conservatives have stated clearly and unequivocally, many times, that the NHS is not, nor will it ever be, for sale. This isn’t something they’re a bit cagey or evasive about, they’ve been very clear

But the Conservatives have a track record of outright lies which has become considerably worse under Johnson. Unfortunately I would put money on the fact that they will continue the process of selling off the most lucrative parts: look at what has happened with the privatisation of lab services.

BeardedMum · 13/12/2019 08:23

There is hardly anything left of the NHS so there is soon no alternative but to sell. There won’t be any new investments from the Tories.

DingDongSchadenfreudeOnHigh · 13/12/2019 08:25

I could cry.

The rich will continue to look after themselves and their cronies, and the tiny amount of restraint on them will be legislated away.

The poor will continue to live and die in misery and want.

Our health shrive will be destroyed.

Our children and young people will see what little future that had snatched from them (unless we are rich, of course where even more entitlement will be piled onto an already overloaded platter).

FenellaMaxwell · 13/12/2019 08:25

I work for the NHS. Like all my NHS colleagues on here, I have seen First hand that sadly the tories have already started privatising but stealth. We are at the tipping point for the NHS, and Boris is nudging us off the cliff whilst Trump circles in the water like some rapey orange, bewigged shark.

DingDongSchadenfreudeOnHigh · 13/12/2019 08:25

*service, not shrive

DingDongSchadenfreudeOnHigh · 13/12/2019 08:26

The Conservatives have stated clearly and unequivocally, many times, that the NHS is not, nor will it ever be, for sale. This isn’t something they’re a bit cagey or evasive about, they’ve been very clear

And you believe them?

Come here, my dear . . . I have a bridge in London I'd like to sell you . . .

WorldsOnFire · 13/12/2019 08:28

I’ve written this on several post this morning but I’ll say it again. The behaviour, attitude and aggression displayed by labour voters this past week or so has been enough to put anyone off. This ‘my opinion matters more than everyone else’s’ bullish entitlement and vile name calling does not win any support or friends and I can’t pretend I haven’t been slightly pleased to witness the torys sticking their tongues out this morning and the labour voters being giant sore losers. So I can’t even imagine how much actual Tory voters must have enjoyed it.

I voted Lib Dem in the end but my god I’d have rather voted Tory than labour after the performance I saw. (Off poorly so spent a lot of this week reading MN posts 👍🏻)

People in glass houses shouldn’t throw ‘racism, disablism, sexism’ rocks- JC has a FAR from clean record not to mention the completely illogical funding he promised. Either
A- he had a magical money forest no one else was aware of.
B- he was an actual moron
C- he was lying

‘Most’ people (even non Tory voters like me) assumed it was C in which case we already have a perfectly effective liar whose been doing the job for a while now- why shake up the system just to be let down by somebody new? 🤔

TFSRM · 13/12/2019 08:28

Get Brexit done is the most annoying soundbite. Brexit is going to tie up parliament business for years. Nothing else will get done.

Expo · 13/12/2019 08:31

I do find it extraordinary that people are calling the tories racist and sexist with a leader like Jeremy Corbyn at the helm of Labour.

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 13/12/2019 08:32

I have not engaged in any name calling so far but I think it takes a special kind of cunt to gloat when people are genuinely scared and upset for the future.

It might be ok, it might be worse than we ever imagined...we just don't know. And BoJo and his cronies' promises are worthless, he wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him round the face with a rotten kipper.

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LeithWalk · 13/12/2019 08:33

The NHS will continue to privatise.

I am an education professional; schools are being 'privatised' all the time; tax payers money given to academy trusts with very little scrutiny, outsourced service to private money making companies; SEN support being outsourced to private companies charging astronomical amounts ( think £150, 000 to £250,00 per child for out of county care - because there aren't any/enough LA run schools).LA's haven't any choice but to pay; private companies going bust and leaving part built schools.

Johnson promises billions more for education - nearly half of this is inflationary cost, another chunk is needed because we will have more children to educate, there really isn't much left in the pot for schools to educate your children.
One in two schools in my LA have a deficit budget - can't buy books, can't retain the staff they need to educate our children successfully.

Words fail me that as a nation we have voted for this.

Expo · 13/12/2019 08:34

Seems people were more scared and upset for the future with JC. I voted Lib Dem but when I left the polling station I was more scared I had just let JC in through the back door.

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