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Group hug thread for those devastated by election results

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KizzyWayfarer · 13/12/2019 00:02

Just a quiet place to sit. If you want to gloat or opinionate about Corbyn please go over to AIBU.

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itwaseverthus · 13/12/2019 06:45

@itwaseverthus I think it’s fair to say that while I have Tory friends (that includes the woman who I consider my best friend), we wouldn’t be! Grow up and take a long hard look at yourself. I’m guessing underneath you don’t like what you see.

Sentance or syntax is off so not quite sure what you are saying but I love me, and more importantly, I love you and my fellow man and am thrilled we are not going down the Marxist road. I get that you don't agree, fine. But to minimise the anti semitism in the Labour party just makes you look slavish. Never an intelligent or self loving look.

lifeisgoodagain · 13/12/2019 06:46

Irony is that people like me can if we wish leave the country, if we wanted we could go to Germany next year, but the poor, the uneducated, the ill, those without connections are stuck here and they are the ones who will suffer - I can live without olive oil, I can stockpile food, others will go hungry.

Toscanello · 13/12/2019 06:47

It is such a depressing result. Not so much that the Tories will have a big majority, I am old enough to have seen that come and go. Rather because they have such a majority with a leader who is such an inarticulate, dim buffoon. That Labour chose to stay with Corbyn as leader when every indication was he was so unpopular with the electorate that a Labour win was impossible. That parts of the UK are now so dumbed down they don't seem to have any foresight about what the are voting for (Labour strongholds for years where seats were lost). It is a lurch to the right that seems so different from previous years.

Brexit will affect us very much as we live in a European country. I have always said to DS if he becomes a citizen here he should never renounce his British citizenship. This result has really changed my mind. Why stay a citizen of a country where people vote for a leader who seems to want to really do nothing for the majority of people in that country, and an opposition who would keep a well meaning but ineffectual and unelectable leader, thereby also doing nothing for the country. And where fellow citizens seem so politically uneducated they seem to vote without thinking. For me, certainly a product of an education system which is so lacking due to underfunding. To be clear, I am absolutely not saying all Tory voters are thick.

Very depressing and for the first time I am truly glad I no longer live there. (Wait a for the good riddance remarks).

se22mother · 13/12/2019 06:48

So upset too. Woke up to the terrible news at 5. My hard right sister will be gloating

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WaterSheep · 13/12/2019 06:51

This has never been a more apt day to be Friday 13th.

Agreed. I suspected the results were going to be bad, but I never expected it to be this catastrophic. Sad

itwaseverthus · 13/12/2019 06:52

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Mary1935 · 13/12/2019 06:54

Yes my first thought was WHY- why why?
Do we think it’s brexit that pushed it this far. It must have contributed greatly. 78 seat majority for Boris.
God knows what he will do to the nhs - I was talking to a woman who worked in London - she said “ if only we knew that the tortes where planning for the nhs there would be an uproar” - she did work in a place that would know.
Why is london mainly labour?
I work in mental health and the cuts to people’s benefits, the hoops they need to jump through and the implementation of universal credit is soul destroying. Then social services cutting services and lack of housing is dire.

Jasmin82 · 13/12/2019 06:54

Thanks, @Stabilos.

WesternMeadowlark · 13/12/2019 06:55

Not leaving Conservative threads alone and not leaving anti-Conservative threads alone aren't equivalent.

The Conservative Party - and therefore their voters - are in favour of the unnecessary deaths of thousands of people.

The opposition to the Conservative Party - primarily the Labour Party of the past few years, but not exclusively - are against the unnecessary deaths of thousands of people.

That's what this election was about, as far too many elections have been. And yes, the people have spoken: most believe that the unnecessary deaths of thousands of people are either a good thing, or not worth taking a few minutes to - completely anonymously - try to stop.

Of course that's horrifying. Anyone who doesn't see it as very, very bad and dangerous, whatever their personal emotional response (I completely understand being burnt out at this stage) doesn't have a fully formed and functioning conscience. The fact that that applies to so many is the point. That's how we end up with the right to the means to stay alive even being on the ballot to be voted against.

I don't have any answers to that pathology.

But out of the two moral positions represented in this election, outlined above, objecting to the latter exposes your lack of conscience, whereas anyone objecting to the former is doing the right thing, whether it's a good idea tactically or not. (I doubt it makes much difference to anyone far enough gone to be in favour of so much death, tbh.) I haven't posted on any Conservative threads on here, but I commend those who have; the idea that tit-for-tat is applicable in this situation is pure nonsense.

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Things that shouldn't need to be spelled out, but apparently do.

CochonDinde · 13/12/2019 06:55

I've went to sleep crying and I've woken up crying. Cannot believe what kind of country I now live in

itwaseverthus · 13/12/2019 06:59

*.

The Conservative Party - and therefore their voters - are in favour of the unnecessary deaths of thousands of people.*

And THAT is why you people are not worth taking seriously. You sat and typed that out and believe that. You will never win with such blinkered attitudes. I am not a Tory die hard, I am a realist. You need t wake up.

Macca84 · 13/12/2019 07:01

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Mamsnetter2020 · 13/12/2019 07:02

Hugs all round - I just don’t understand people, I really don’t.

Just ignore the conservative bullies who show up here.

itwaseverthus · 13/12/2019 07:03

Why the fuck not? Do you not want to learn anything? Are you doomed to repeat the same errors again and again? Meh, probably. But it's the internet. I can comment and you can ignore.

WesternMeadowlark · 13/12/2019 07:03

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DownstairsMixUp · 13/12/2019 07:03

absolutely devastated, have cried a lot. Worried about my future. Feeling so sorry for our lovely nhs staff

Stabilos · 13/12/2019 07:03

I was debating what conversation I'd have with my 16yo son this morning, it's an age when anxiety can take hold. I've decided to remind him not to worry, he's got dual British/other EU country citizenship, plus ambition, so I'll be encouraging him to take flight at the earliest opportunity.

Piggywaspushed · 13/12/2019 07:05

Let's do as was suggest and ignore.

It's not in the spirit of this thread. OP asked for quite reflection. No doubt was will continue swearing at us and I will continue to report until MNHQ notices the abuse but make it easier for me by not swearing and name calling back.

itwaseverthus · 13/12/2019 07:05

It reminds me of the threads about voting Tory where all the Labour die-hards came on and banged on and on about if you vote Tory you are condemning thousands of child to certain death. What goes around.

Piggywaspushed · 13/12/2019 07:05

quiet reflection.

WesternMeadowlark · 13/12/2019 07:05

[I'm fully aware of what that poster is like, btw, I've only posted in case the people on here living in fully-justified fear gain some comfort from it, and won't be engaging there again.]

itwaseverthus · 13/12/2019 07:07

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Mintjulia · 13/12/2019 07:10

Politicians DO NOT determine how kind people are to each other.
This vote doesn’t stop us being kind to each other, being foster caters or volunteers or just being decent people or friends.
What goes on in Downing Street will not stop me being a good neighbour, a decent sister & mum & friend. Flowers

itwaseverthus · 13/12/2019 07:10

t's not in the spirit of this thread. OP asked for quite reflection. No doubt was will continue swearing at us and I will continue to report until MNHQ notices the abuse but make it easier for me by not swearing and name calling back. The swearing is all stemming from others, I am merely batting it back...

This is a chat forum, not a closed shop. You lost that one.

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