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Hey Tory Voters

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ilovetinsel · 07/12/2019 20:17

Seriously. How can you?

Hey Tory Voters
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LemonGingerCakes · 09/12/2019 10:15

I do NOT understand voting Tory to 'get Brexit done’.

It was the Tories who started this mess and the Tories who have not managed to 'get Brexit done' for the last three years.

Johnson constantly repeating the Brexit statement over and over doesn’t change that fact.

coffeebliss · 09/12/2019 10:44

I don't think that the country will get better under Labour. I don't have an issue with paying more tax. I welcome the idea of a better NHS. But his policies wrt business are arbitrary and ill-thought through.

My family is working all hours to keep a British company going (family owned - not our family though! - using British materials, with British employees). With recent trading conditions, it has been touch and go whether there is enough cash to pay everyone on some months, although with recent credit extensions, we have been able to make it through, and things are looking better. The company employs 300 British people. At times, the only reason for keeping going rather than finding a new, less stressful job, has been to make sure that these people and their families can make their mortgage payments. Being forced to give away 10% of the business to the employees will kill this business. Profit margins are too low to be able to cope with the impact. Some very difficult decisions will have to be made at an individual and business level. Do we cut our workforce to under 250? Which departments could we outsource? These are real business decisions.

At a personal level, should we leave the company (this will not turn out well for the company; our responsibility and efforts are what have turned it around and kept it going) and find another job elsewhere, which would be so much less stressful. Pretty easy, too, particularly if we look internationally. There must be so many businesses that will cut workers or close down if Corbyn gets in. So many people that will just up and leave. It is unbelievably tragic to think about.

Many politicians - on both sides - can be quoted to show their bigotry / racism, etc. It's a terrible thing. But personally I can't vote based on how obnoxious I find them. Instead, I will be voting based on the policies they suggest and for the party that I think is less likely to kill the economy - and therefore everyday people's livelihoods - short, medium and long term.

I even regard Brexit - despite having voted Remain - as less concerning than Corbyn, not least because some of the damage has already been done. Talk about the lesser of 2 evils!

Chrestomanciscat · 09/12/2019 11:00

This is it people. Only two options for next Prime Minister, either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn.

Either No Deal, no action on climate change, no standing up to Trump, no hope with Johnson.
Or blocking No Deal, no NHS sell-off, a Green New Deal and a much brighter future with labour

Bloomburger · 09/12/2019 11:07

In fact, the Tories are so useless that the City would prefer a Lib/Lab coalition as less damaging to the economy.

^ says who. My husband is in the City and on quite a few panels and boards (can't expand) and he is horrified at the thought of Lib/Lad getting anywhere near the purse strings again as are most big businesses.

I think people have short memories when it comes to the fact that the Labour government bailed out the banks when we were hours away from cash machines running empty.

SingingLily · 09/12/2019 11:09

I think the poster who said there was being ironic. Smile

SingingLily · 09/12/2019 11:10

There?

That!

Flaming autocorrect Smile

Gilead · 09/12/2019 11:49

My husband is in the City and on quite a few panels and boards (can't expand) and he is horrified at the thought of Lib/Lad getting anywhere near the purse strings again as are most big businesses.
Interesting, my Tory brother and my Liberal sister are both quite satisfied with the Labour manifesto, both stating that it's clearer than the Tory manifesto. Both running very large UK financial firms.
Perhaps your husband needs to re-check the figures that have been approved by the FT and The Economist, among others.

pootroll · 09/12/2019 12:04

My sibling works pretty high up for one of the big banks in the uk and word going around is that the lab/lib option is far preferred.

From a personal point of view having experienced atos at their worst, voting for the Conservatives and Unionist party is not an option.

I sympathise SingingLily, the constituency you mention is tough, I get that you wouldn’t vote labour, and tbh even if you did it wouldn’t matter as they’re so far behind there. I would struggle to vote for either of the other two though. Perhaps if the Lib Dem candidate was different I could hold my nose and vote for them. I suspect I’d have to spoil my ballot though.

CendrillonSings · 09/12/2019 12:08

My sibling works pretty high up for one of the big banks in the uk and word going around is that the lab/lib option is far preferred.

Labour and Lib Dems the parties of the big banks? That may not be quite the electoral selling point you imagine...

Luckylassiam · 09/12/2019 12:08

Actually can’t wait until the Tories win

Gilead · 09/12/2019 12:10

Why Luckylass?

Patroclus · 09/12/2019 12:16

Not really sure why we should give a shit what some magazine in Israel thinks about our political parties

Trewser · 09/12/2019 12:19

My sibling works pretty high up for one of the big banks in the uk and word going around is that the lab/lib option is far preferred

Rubbish.

pootroll · 09/12/2019 12:34

Not saying it’s a selling point....
And nope not rubbish, second option being a hung parliament.

Trewser · 09/12/2019 12:42

So they'd prefer a Labour govt as their first option? And a hung parliament as the second? You are seriously telling me that you have friends who work 'high up' in a big bank who would prefer those two options over a Tory government? Again, Rubbish.

pootroll · 09/12/2019 12:51

Again not rubbish. Not everyone has been brainwashed by the vile rhetoric and lies spaffed over the British public by the Conservative and Unionist Party.

Trewser · 09/12/2019 12:52

Well, I guess their personal opinions might be different to their corporate ones! Happy to be hypocrites I guess!

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 09/12/2019 13:26

I suspect a number of voters indicating their preference for a Labour Government are not acting purely altruistically! The bribes offered by Corbybn et al for free broadband, cheaper rail fares, 4 day working week, yet more maternity and paternity leave, thus making things even more difficult for small businesses, free university tuition, free kittens, free unicorns, etc. may just have something to do with it! Where is the money going to come from?????

bluebells1 · 09/12/2019 13:33

Momentum have a few busy days ahead. Keep trying, hun.

Your antisemitic, terrorist appeasing twat of a leader is a million times worse than fumbling Bo Jo.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 09/12/2019 14:30

I hope none of you I’m alright Jacks need a food bank or Welfare assistance in the next 5 years.
The wheel of fortune moves constantly.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 09/12/2019 14:34

Second comment.
“Yawn”
Oh so Homophobia Racism ect is fine.
People burning to death is “their fault” because they lacked common sense, apparently.
AngryAngry

Trewser · 09/12/2019 14:42

How are Labour going to stop the need for food banks?

SlowAndWild · 09/12/2019 15:00

This is like a playground. Much like the House of Commons in fact.....

LochJessMonster · 09/12/2019 15:03

You understand the more threads like this, the more I will enjoy registering my Conservative vote on Thursday.
This!

I am voting Tory through researched decision - what will favour me and my family in the long run, what is most likely to get Brexit done, and because it is not a vote for JC.

But every thread and insult like this on MN makes that X in the Conservative box even sweeter.

thehorseandhisboy · 09/12/2019 15:03

Yeah. I don't think all the 'how could you?' posts are helpful - they just get people's backs up.

But people are scared, really scared of not being able to heat their homes, hang on to their homes, feed their children, access health and social care, which makes people lash out in anger.

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