Hey Tory Voters

[ilovetinsel]

Seriously. How can you?

It’s almost like a group of ten yr olds are running the labour PR campaign.

What does it matter? How is an @ sign making you so angry? Is it because you’re unable to prove evidence and so are making an issue out of something else? Surely not.

This highlights Mr Johnson being leader as one reason not to vote Conservative. In my opinion the best reason to vote for one of the other parties.

A man who uses racist language, treats women badly in his private life, fails allegedly to acknowledge one of his children, and tried to involve the Queen in a political stunt, sounds reason enough. None of these would apply to the other ten people whom the Conservatives could have chosen as leader.

singinglily the conservatives have already run the public sector into the ground. The NHS is in crisis, there’s a critical shortage of qualified teachers, there are so few police that knife crime has become a massive issue.

But you trust the people who caused the problem to sort it out?

Especially given since they intend to Brexit, with a real prospect of no deal by the end of 2020? We know Brexit will have a massive economic impact, even Mogg admits its. So they can easily amend their non-binding manifesto commitments to more funding for the public sector to keep up the same level of serious underfunding that they’ve been presiding over for a decade.

I’m not a momentum person. I don’t run around like a headless chicken. I’m disabled. Why the hell would I vote for a party that penalises me for being so? I’m voting for the party that has costed their manifesto with support from some of the largest financial institutions in the country, from the FT and The Economist. I’m voting for a party that isn’t asking people like me to choose heat or eat. That doesn’t penalise children for being born into lower paid families. I’m voting for a fairer society. I’m sorry Tory voters but your manifesto has yet again ignored the disabled, swiped millions (24 million) from the education budget which was used to support those with additional needs making the budget zero, and has no real plans for social housing. I am honestly at a loss how Tory voters defend the indefensible.

Actually, Gordon Brown ran sections of the public sector into the ground before he left No. 10. I know. I was one of those public sector workers.

Say what you like.

Still voting Conservative.

So you have your own ‘evidence’ from a decade ago, and none about Labour “running the whole country into the ground”.

Of course.

Hoping people will see sense & stop obsessing about Corbyn & vote for whichever party in their constituency that will get the tory's out 🤞🤞🤞

Projecting, MustardScreams. Whatever.

Still voting Conservative.

These people.

“Hoping people will see sense & stop obsessing about Corbyn”

Couldn’t have put it better myself.

ABC. Anyone. But. Corbyn.

I want the NHS to be properly funded. It isn't at the moment. It will be broken down further and sold off by the Tories. That's what this election is about. It doesn't matter if you don't personally like Corbyn -If you support a football team do you stop supporting them when the manager changes?

SingingLily, I'm really sorry, but I don't understand your reasons for doing so.

As an aside many Muslims I know really enjoyed the letter box gaff. Not all Muslims are fundamentalists who force their wives/daughters to wear niqabs. Obviously it’s not nice to make fun of the women when it’s the men that are to blame but equally it’s offensive to conflate niqab wearers with normal Muslims.

Also a Corbyn has many times said he looks up to a man who ordered acts of genocide against traditionally Muslim ethnic minorities so really if Muslims should be disgusted by anyone it’s not boris.

The damage was done between 1997 to 2010. Labour and PFI. Labour and PCTs. Ever since the entire country has paid for it. It would have been worse had Labour been re-elected in 2010 or 2015. The country would by now be completely bankrupt.

Boris Johnson has nothing on what Corbyn’s Labour Party has become. From Israel’s left-wing daily:

www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/corbyn-s-labour-worst-global-anti-semitic-incident-simon-wiesenthal-center-says-1.8234437

The Jeremy Corbyn-led Labour Party is the year's worst global anti-Semitic incident, the Jewish human rights and Holocaust remembrance organization Simon Wiesenthal Center announced Saturday.

"In a year awash with anti-Semitism on both sides of the Atlantic, no one has done more to mainstream anti-Semitism" in a democratic country than the U.K.'s Labour Party under Corbyn's leadership, the Simon Wiesenthal Center wrote.

@Gilead children of poorer families will be penalised when they’re stuck here. Children from privileged backgrounds will be safely overseas when the shit hits the fan as a result of their ‘properly costed’ manifesto not taking into account mass departures. Also worth noting that fairer isn’t necessarily better. The USSR was much fairer than modern day Britain in the egalitarian sense which you seem to employ. Everyone was equally enslaved and equally at risk of sudden death. I know where I’d want to live though.

Probably not, Gilead, but the best I can do to describe it as a voter, is playing 4D chess because there is such clear water between the three main parties. We all have to decide our priorities and this may mean sacrificing others.

I live in a constituency that recently swung from LibDem to Conservative. For this reason, it is on Jo Swinson's Remainer Alliance list of 60. There are only three choices: Conservative, LibDem, Labour.

Labour - even if I could bring myself to vote for its current incarnation, which I could not - would think a good election round here would be one where they manage to scrape the deposit back. They haven't a cat in hell's chance here.

The LibDem candidate is Helen Belcher. Anyone who thinks I will vote Helen Belcher into a seat in the HoC and into a position to have even more say over Self ID can think again.

Given that this is a swing seat, anyone who thinks I will help Helen Belcher indirectly by spoiling my ballot can think again.

4D chess.

I am voting Conservative.

Not only because I am anti-Corbyn but also because it's my feminist duty.

And no amount of shouting or goading or @-ing is going to change my mind.

It’s laughable to say you’re a feminist and vote Tory.

I understand and accept your reasoning SingingLily, obviously disappointed from a personal point of view. The only thing I would say is are you sure that's what you want to do over just one issue? (I accept that it is an incredibly important issue and am a person that no longer uses M&S).

ChristmasSpirits, comparing the current Labour Manifesto to old regime Communism isn't really a legitimate argument.

Child poverty decreased considerably under Brown and has increased phenomenally under the Tory government.
As for going overseas, it didn't happen under Thatcher when taxes for the highly paid were considerably more than the Labour Party are suggesting so why is it likely to happen now?

I'd suggest looking at all manifestos carefully before making a decision as you don't appear to have done so.

Thank you, Gilead. No, it's not just one issue but it's right up there with the most important, at least to me. The Conservatives are not an exact fit for me, electorally, but right now they are the nearest. That will have to do. This time anyway.

The best I can hope for is that this election is so decisive that it forces the three main parties to take a long hard look at themselves and at the very people they are meant to represent, and reform.

I'm sick and tired of MPs who forget they are meant to represent their constituents in Parliament, not represent Parliament in their constituencies.

You’re subjecting women to horrific treatment at the hands of the government, poor maternity care, lifelong birth injuries with no treatment, poor mental health support, refuges being closed monthly, rape victims not receiving support because of funding, domestic violence victims having to face their attacker in court, no legal aid, no Sure Start centres, less inclusion in STEM degrees, no funding for higher education.

You are not a feminist.