Prince Andrew

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I haven’t watched the interview, but heard reports of the content. I just find it unbelievable he claims he can’t remember meeting a woman he had his arm around! Despicable. Does anyone believe him?

I struggle to think of any positive reason why he should not help the French police or fbi. If there is one the palace or him should announce that "Andrew is refusing to co operate with the authorities in France and America for x reason" and put it to bed.

Because the reason has to be huge where being in the midst of this shit storm is preferable to co operating.

Radio silence other than his "legal team advise him not to" can only lead us to a very negative conclusion as to why he is avoiding any form of questioning and co operation and is choosing to go through this shit instead.

Surely the standards of expected behaviour should be higher for royalty than the norm? I don’t know personally any men who have behaved as shoddily as this. Even if not actually criminal his is very shit behaviour. And this person is richly rewarded from the public purse by dint of who he was born to? Revolution stirring in my veins the French had it right!

The BIG question is why are paedophiles and procurers of children allowed to get anywhere near the royal family?

Jimmy Savile, was introduced into royal circles by Lord Mountbatten, uncle and mentor to prince charles, who had child abuse accusations made against him with evidence.

Now Epstein!

Lets not forget about the vetting by security services that individuals indeed go through to get within spitting distance of the royal family.

Andrews admission during the interview, Epstein was at Beartices 18th birthday party (along with the queen) and visited Sandringham.

Savile was a constant in royal circles, even bought in for marriage guidance for charles and Diana.

It's not difficult to join the dots. For anyone interested in finding facts, take a look at research done by Shaun Attwood with over 100 videos on the Epstein case:
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPT_cCpNMvT73vjeimfkttju80FKKlH52

To be fair, we’re probably all associated with a peadophile in some way. What the RF need to do is what most of us would, which is cut them off and report as soon as we become aware (if indeed we ever do)

The problem is that the way Andrew Windsor thinks about women is the way many many men do - just writ large. And we live in a society where that is totally normalised.

rrg, you asked the question 'Why are predators allowed to get near to the powerful'
One might ask why are bank robbers attracted to banks, why are pedophiles attracted to the Catholic priesthood, why is the lion so interested in the struggling baby antelope.
obviously this is speculation on my part but I think that when people cross certain lines they develop a predatory mindset that other people don't really understand

RhinoskinhaveI Passthecherrycoke

You are missing the point. Security services vet people before they are allowed into royal circles.
Us plebs make our own judgements upon who we associate with.

Generally speaking, men don’t like women, and think of them as being there for the convenience of men. Whether it’s picking up their socks, wiping their piss from the loo seat or being convenient sexual vessels. Bertrand How do the men in your life feel about your views?

Have to laugh at the advert on my screen

“ Bertrand How do the men in your life feel about your views?”

They are pretty pissed off with the way many of their sex behave too.

They are pretty pissed off with the way many of their sex behave too. Fair enough. It's similar in my house

@derxa- what was the point of that little exchange?

Blimey Bertrand lets not start expecting ppl to have a reason for posting! MN will never be the same again .

I think you are missing my point rrg1, which is that these are skilled predators who are highly motivated to find or construct a route towards their prey

My employer vets people too. Bet I’ve still worked with a paedophile- I mean how many work in schools?

The point is, no one knows they’re a paedophile until they know. Often when they’re caught. Until then how would you?

Id sumarised it as, what do the men around you think of your views on men, you replied that they feel the same as you about men, she replied her experience was similar.

Have you taken offence that she questioned you on this that you demand she justify her point?

It’s an odd question- who cares what the men in berts life think of her stance, even it was anti man?

Is it because a mans view is all important?

I didn't get that from it.

I see a lot on MN where theres little realisation that men actually abhore the way men let down the male sex, and female. Or lack of acknowledgement of the levels of mysogyny.

Many men will tell you what they think of their experience of what drives a lot of the men they know, and its not good.

In order to get what they want pedophiles have to be extremely good at the whole grooming process, they don't just groom the victim they have to groom or manipulate everyone around the victim, they understand very well the importance of maintaining a facade so that even if one or two people suspect the fact that everyone else sees them as a decent honorable person will hold sway

“Have you taken offence that she questioned you on this that you demand she justify her point?”

Haven’t taken offence or demanding anything. Just wondering what she thought I might be going to say.

Has anyone come across any articles by body language experts? I thought DM would have reported something like this by now.

RhinoskinhaveI

I think you are missing my point rrg1, which is that these are skilled predators who are highly motivated to find or construct a route towards their prey

More skilled than worldwide Security Services?

I admire your naivety, I wish I thought so well

I honestly don’t think we need comments from body language “experts”- it’s an inexact science at the best of times. What he actually says and doesn’t say in words is enough!

Passthecherrycoke

My employer vets people too. Bet I’ve still worked with a paedophile- I mean how many work in schools?

Trust me vetting for royals is far beyond that of an employer and I can say that, from experience, best not posted on here

I suppose everyone can wonder can't they, what others expected they might say before they actually did say. She did say what she said in response, so then you knew what she said.

Why worry...be happy ...