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Prince Andrew

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SunsetBoulevard3 · 16/11/2019 00:07

I haven’t watched the interview, but heard reports of the content. I just find it unbelievable he claims he can’t remember meeting a woman he had his arm around! Despicable. Does anyone believe him?

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Dowser · 19/11/2019 06:14

I didn’t understand the Kevin spacey video

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 19/11/2019 06:25

Kevin Spacey was speaking as his character Frank Underwood in House of Cards.
FU was a murderous, corrupt president of the US.

Reading the comments, are that he is alleging that JE isn’t really dead. (perhaps his death was faked by wealthy friends to stop him testifying) ( this is just my opinion)
RF mug and Masonic ring are implicating both.

It does beg the question that if the whole Jimmy Savile scandal basically outed pretty much anyone who was famous in show-business in the 70s as a paedophile. JE may well have been part of a much larger paedophile ring which is active today.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 19/11/2019 06:44

Kevin Spacey's accuser suddenly died the other month.

Which one @Patroclus? Anthony Rapp is still alive and well.

longwayoff · 19/11/2019 06:50

Yes, @Passthecherrycoke, people have short memories. What isn't being said is that this is a lifestyle actively sought by many young people who see only rewards and are therefore easily exploited by predators. Often encouraged by parents who also see only reward. A few years on, it can look quite different. I suppose it was ever thus. It's not good. This publicity showing this exploitation is good. But Jean Luc didn't suffer from exposure as I recall.

Bluntness100 · 19/11/2019 06:55

I see that the fact he is wanted for questioning by the French authorities that I mentioned earlier is now starting to appear in the press.

So that's now the fbi and French police.

I don't think we have ever had a senior royal wanted for questioning like this and avoiding it.

longwayoff · 19/11/2019 07:12

Memorialised.

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longwayoff · 19/11/2019 07:15

And this.

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JoObrien7 · 19/11/2019 07:26

@SunsetBoulevard3

I heard that she left him because of his womanizing with younger women.

Bluntness100 · 19/11/2019 07:47

I do think the fact he is refusing to be interviewed by any authorities is Very damaging indeed. Because it begs the question why is he refusing to co operate.

I think it needs to be assumed there is a very good reason he is not. It will have been examined back to front before that decision was taken. And the queen will be aware of that reason and all the detail behind it, as she will have supported or approved the blocking of his questioning.

Not submitting for questioning by the American and French police authorities is a really big deal and decision. One which won't have been taken lightly because of the implications and damage being done by him not complying.

So th only assumption that can be made is it would be worse for him if he did compy. Much worse.

JoObrien7 · 19/11/2019 07:57

@Bluntness100

He needs to make a statement to the police in the US but he won't do that which implies he has something to hide.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 19/11/2019 08:00

Maybe the Queen believes him that it was an error of judgement or whatever he’s said to her about staying friends with a convicted sex offender. She won’t be the first or last mother to believe her son unfortunately.

KaptainKaveman · 19/11/2019 08:01

How about a straight swap: Prince Andrew for Anne Sacoolas?

merrymouse · 19/11/2019 08:36

www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/08/prince-andrew-201108/amp

"The spoiling never stopped. “Whenever she hears that Andrew is in Buckingham Palace, she’ll send him a handwritten note, and he always goes to see her,” "

Confused

Also, apparently the Queen's response to his scandals in the 2000's (dodgy deals with dictators, ex-wife selling royal access) was to make him "Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order, the highest possible honor for “personal service” to the Queen."

merrymouse · 19/11/2019 08:40

I do think the fact he is refusing to be interviewed by any authorities is Very damaging indeed. Because it begs the question why is he refusing to co operate.

Also, why wouldn't he be interviewed when, given that he is constantly surrounded by security, you would expect there to be witnesses and records that could give him a proper alibi, not this 'pizza express Woking, no sweating' nonsense.

Even assuming innocence, he gives the impression that the law is a nasty messy thing that shouldn't trouble him.

BowermansNose · 19/11/2019 08:40

We watched it last night, and to be honest, we found him quite believable. He was really unaware of how he would come across, because we expect people to behave in a certain way, and say certain things, and I don't think that's how royals typically express themselves. The example for me was when he talked about Epstein's behaviour as "unbecoming". It came across terribly, but I think that is partly how they speak. If the Queen were to give an interview, I think we'd be equally aghast. You can imagine her saying how she feels a "certain affection" for her family, rather than saying (as we'd expect) that she loved them.

I think what it showed is how out of touch royals are, however (just an ordinary shooting weekend, only once going to a Pizza Express, etc).

merrymouse · 19/11/2019 08:42

If the Queen were to give an interview, I think we'd be equally aghast.

I suspect you are right, but then you have to ask why we have the royals?

SlightlyBonkersQFA · 19/11/2019 08:45

Yes, if he were innocent and blameless, talking to the police in private would have been the more sensible and fully co-operative thing to do.

longwayoff · 19/11/2019 09:34

Thanks for the VF link, @merrymouse, their research is always impressive. Suicide eh? There must have been a lengthy queue of hitmen given Epstein's contact list.

Dowser · 19/11/2019 10:17

Thanks for the KS video expiation.
I was totally baffled by it having not watched the film.

It’s worth keeping an eye on the DI forum
Some Interesting stuff being posted

Dowser · 19/11/2019 10:20

From DI forum...we are just scratching at the surface...this stuff is going deep

Members
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Posted 1 hour ago
Mossad operation....

Jeffrey Epstein victim confirms that the pedophile had cameras in the bathrooms and bedrooms of his NYC townhouse - and employed a team of men to monitor the feeds at all times

Maria Farmer sat down to for a two-part interview with CBS This Morning, and in the first part airing on Monday spoke about Jeffrey Epstein's 'media room'
She revealed that the window to that room is actually visible from the street and right by the ground floor entrance to Epstein's $77 million townhouse
'What it was, was old televisions, basically like stacked. Monitors inside this cabinet. There were men sitting here,' she said of the 'media room'
'I looked on the cameras, and I saw toilet, toilet, bed, bed, toilet, bed. I'm like, I am never going to use the restroom here,' said Farmer
She alleges that Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell assaulted her at the Ohio home of Les Wexner, and claims her sister, then 15, was also assaulted by the pair
Farmer said that she reported her assault to both the NYPD and FBI in 1996, and says that to her knowledge nothing was done about her claims at the time
By Chris Spargo For Dailymail.com
Published: 15:50, 18 November 2019 | Updated: 17:18, 18 November 2019
One of the women who has accused Jeffrey Epstein of assaulting her sat down for an interview with CBS This Morning that aired on Monday.
Maria Farmer, who along with her younger sister Annie was one of the first women to contact the FBI with allegations about the pedophile, spoke about her horror when she was shown the media room inside Epstein's home.
That horror stemmed from the fact that Farmer quickly realized once she was inside the room that Epstein had cameras surveilling guests throughout the house - even in the bathroom.
Farmer, who filed a lawsuit against Epstein's estate last week, will share more about her time with Epstein and her alleged assault when the second part of her interview airs Tuesday on CBS This Morning.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7698229/Jeffrey-Epstein-victim-confirms-pedophile-cameras-rooms-NYC-townhouse.html

WineOrGinOrBoth · 19/11/2019 11:16

James O’Brien on LBC now - I don’t think this will go away.

BertrandRussell · 19/11/2019 11:19

“Born at 3-nil. Thinks he’s scored a hat trick”

WineOrGinOrBoth · 19/11/2019 11:21

Quite!!

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