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How do you handle food rules and birthday parties

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ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:25

Dd has a group of 4 friends, one of them is vegan and also not allowed refined sugar/ junk foods. They are age 7/8

Day to day play dates need a bit of planning, but it’s ok. She does like food and asks for it a lot, but is also quite fussy. They buy a lot of food stuffs I’ve genuinely never tried, and sometimes I don’t know what she wants when we asked. last time I took her to the local co-op to try choosing and it was hard to find anything that was allowed but yet also wanted. A banana certainly doesn’t cut it. She also sees me as a soft touch and will want the doughnuts for example (vegan in the coop) so I’ve stopped that as mum is then annoyed. She directs me not to allow her to eat at all sometimes, but the child refuses to do anything if not fed (her two siblings are not like this to be fair). Her diet involves a lot of bread as she’s not very keen on veggies/ non-exotic fruit

Birthday parties have proved really hard in the past. One for example she wasn’t brought to when they were younger, pizza making, wasted a load of vegan cheese and extras as there was a last minute judgement her dd would be upset by not being able to eat many things. My child did want cheese very strongly to be there. Another I didn’t realise drinks were an issue, handed out fruit shoots and it was taken away... cue sad child to deal with (she drinks squash I’m sure so didn’t know) Most result in her sitting away from the group and eyeballing them if there’s food, or on a parent’s lap with sad face and feeling awkward. Food bought especially goes to waste (and can frankly double the cost...). I keep vegan spread in the fridge and offer toast as a compromise normally on play dates. It’s become a big wedge, the rules and her reaction to not eating what the others are allowed.

I’ve really tried, from making vegan cakes (not eaten by anyone, not my forte) to separate food but it’s still an issue. I’ve asked for recipes, but they’ve involved flours/ nuts etc that aren’t easy to source without a journey out of area and require blenders which I don’t have (she is extremely dedicated to food prep, even making her own stuff raw vegan) I find mum a really difficult character in many ways with views on me (eg owning a TV, activities we do etc) not just food. I’ve tried reasonable chats but she’s of the firm belief that my choices are wrong and hers correct in short. I think anything short of a party that has no junk/ sugar and is vegan wouldn’t be enough. None of my other vegan friends react this way, it’s not an anti-vegan post.... it’s a super restrictive diets and difficulty/ judgement of me. Two other adults are vegan and their kids are veggie that we know through my other kids, it’s zero fuss to eat with them.

Now my dd does not want to be restricted, she wants some sweets alongside the fruit at birthdays. One of her friends is positively junk focused and would sulk if there’s none (well, it’s a birthday party, they tend to be conditioned to it).

The girl is otherwise lovely, and it’s horrible to leave her out of small parties. What would you do? I’m really close to having the easy life and just having the others. It’s a movie party and they will snack heavily, and expect it.

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Musicalstatues · 02/11/2019 20:29

I would tell the mum she needs to send food for her daughter to be honest. It’s one thing having to make some changes for medical reasons or minor changes to tweak a meal but when it requires that much planning and extra effort (and the mum isn’t even grateful!!) I would put the responsibility back on to her.

hoxt · 02/11/2019 20:31

You have a nightmare mother problem.

hidinginthenightgarden · 02/11/2019 20:32

I’d tell the mum that she needs to provide food because you are struggling to cater for her daughters diet without it effecting the other attendees.
If she wants her daughter to attend she should help make it possible.

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SunshineAngel · 02/11/2019 20:32

There are lots of foods that are vegan and tbh if it was me I think I'd make the whole menu vegan for everyone.

That said, if it was my child, I would send them with food rather than demand a different menu. That would go for preferences OR allergies.

No way I'd want to make party planning any harder for parents than it already is.

mankyfourthtoe · 02/11/2019 20:33

Dear mum
I've tried a few foods with your dd, but I'm struggling. The majority of foods my dd wants for her party won't be suitable for your daughter. Please can you send a packed lunch for her to have a the party so she's included.

ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:34

@Musicalstatues mum most certainly is at the opposite end of the scale from grateful. I am barely tolerated quite openly and her daughter hasn’t made a good friend choice.

I’ve thought of the packed lunch request, but if it doesn’t really solve it. It would still be all big eyes and upset

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ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:37

@SunshineAngel there’s also the sugar issue, aside from the fact my own child has firm ideas on party food. If I remove chocolate/ sweets/ cheese from her birthday she will be upset herself. Like many kids she spend ages dreaming of her party foods. Another child going is very sugar focused, withdraw and it’ll be another upset. I’m happy meat-free and largely vegan. The sugar is even harder

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Ohyesiam · 02/11/2019 20:39

The last time I looked after a vegan child I found her eating a slug while we were all in the garden.

SunshineAngel · 02/11/2019 20:40

@ihuli Okay, so you provide food - making sure there is something for the child in question to eat (fruit perhaps instead of cakes and sweets) and then tell the mother than you will be providing it, but that if she wants to enforce what her child is eating, she has to attend and police it herself, as you have enough to deal with.

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 02/11/2019 20:41

Tough luck on her then. She either provides a full retinue of vegan dinner and snacks or the girl doesn’t come. No way would I be spoiling my dds birthday party to cater for fussy ungrateful rude twats. Put your foot down and tell her straight. And while you’re there tell her she could do with improving her manners as well. Cheeky bloody woman.

ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:42

I think the issue can be boiled down to

-her dd gets upset being left out of food options in sight, whatever she has, and mum adds to this by making comments negatively and adding additional rules at times

-my dd and friends really actively want some sugar and dairy and this is really really important to them

-I’m not good enough at baking to make a cake for my dd that is both vegan and is the cake dd dreams of

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PeopleMover · 02/11/2019 20:43

Ask the Mum to send a packed lunch and don't spend any more time worrying about it.

moreturkeyforme · 02/11/2019 20:46

The mother's problem not yours.
Ask/tell mother that she need to provide food for her daughter.

Fuck trying to please her.

ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:47

I suppose the packed lunch is correct, I’m sure it’ll result in a declined invitation but it puts the ball in her court doing so. Rather than me being the bitch who didn’t invite a child in a close group of girls.

I think I’m envisioned stuffing red meat down my neck every meal and gaming away all hours or something. I actually have eaten vegan today, and some other days this week, just out of Chance because I don’t actually eat that much meat or dairy (or in fact own a games console, which she once warned me to keep her children away from...). I don’t eat much sugar either, but ... it’s a birthday party and I let them chill without a thought

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Mrscog · 02/11/2019 20:48

Agree with the mum sends food for the DD or they decline the invitation. That poor child is going to end up so fucked up.

HelloDulling · 02/11/2019 20:48

For a film party, homemade popcorn is not too sugary, then strawberries and grapes on skewers. Carrot sticks/cucumber and some hummus. If they need more food than that, ask the mum to send her with a sandwich ‘as I just can’t get to the shop to pick up any vegan cheese this week.’

HelloDulling · 02/11/2019 20:50

The Swedish Glacé ice cream is dairy free and surprisingly nice. Could have that with strawberries.

MiddleClassProblem · 02/11/2019 20:51

Maybe you could get some food bags/card lunch boxes so they all look similar but hers just has what her mum brings inside it instead?

scarecrowfeet · 02/11/2019 20:52

Fuck that, the mum's a judgemental arse. I'd be scoffing Haribo and sausage rolls at the next party.

SciFiRules · 02/11/2019 20:58

Or let the kids eat anything she wants from steak to icing sugar from the bag. The mother hates you anyway, the daughter nay as well have one day of fun!

FabulouslyGlamorousBat · 02/11/2019 20:59

I'm in the 'fuck that' camp! Serve your usual party crap and have some vegan sandwiches, bowls of fruit and crisps. If your feeling nice maybe grab a couple do vegan cupcakes (or the donuts from the Co-Op) for vegan child. It's not about her daughter, it's about yours!

Dickhead mother.

Swisskit · 02/11/2019 21:00

I'd sto9 inviting the child and explain why to the mother. Maybe that will be a bit of a wake-up call?

Shockers · 02/11/2019 21:00

@HelloDulling - my children would’ve been more than happy with that range of food, especially if presented imaginatively!

ihuli · 02/11/2019 21:01

@SciFiRules I laughed out loud.

I once let her have half a vegan sugar ring doughnut a few years ago when I was being driven mad by them and mum was stuck in traffic. Maybe she knows...and that’s it. I just turned a bind eye

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WoodenTricycle · 02/11/2019 21:02

A childhood friend had multiple childhood (genuine and serious) allergies (35 years ago, not so easy to test for then) and took a packed lunch to parties. We had a list of what she could and couldn't eat on our fridge!!

As an adult she absolutely remembers being sad as a child but of course understands now her mum had to do this!

Appreciate your scenario is about parental choice rather than necessity but wanted to illustrate that this didn't stop her joining in on the whole.

Is anyone else envisaging this child making a beeline for Big Macs and tonnes of lurid sweets as a teenager? Great to eat healthily but this is going too far IMO!!

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